HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 07-10-72MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF TIlE TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE: July 10, 1972
TIME: 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street
PRESENT: Curtis, Edelstein, Larnard, Sharp
ABSENT: Duk le'th
INDEX
ROLL CALL .............................................
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MEETING OF JUNE
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Continued
UP-72-388
UP-72-379
UP-72-379
New I rem
V-72-284 -
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Items
- George
- Daniel
- Ethel F.
Roger B. Robbins ........................ 3-5
OLD BUSINESS - NONE
NEW BUSINESS - NONE
CORRESPONDENCE
Orange County Tentative Tract Map 7919 - William
Zink ............................................ 5
Invitation from Southern California Planning Congress 5
Memorandum from the California Roadside Council .... 5
Orange County Sanitation Districts ................. 5-6
STAFF CONCERNS
Summary of Development Preview Commission Actions.. 6
Shell Oil Company - termination of service station. 6
League of California Cities Annual Conference ...... 6
Pending Application ................................ 6
CO~%IISSION CONCERN
Traffic Lights ..................................... 6
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION - NONE
ADJOURNMENT ........................................... 6'
Argyros ......................... 1-2
M. Jones ........................ 2-3
Doty .......................... 3
OF REGULAR
26, 1972 ........................... 1
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF TIIE
CITY OF TUSTIN PLANNING CO~ISSION
JULY 10, 1972
The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission
was held on the 10th day of July, 1972, at the hour of 7:30 p.m.,
of said day in the Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street,
Tustin, California.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sharp.
The Invocation was given by Commissioner Larnard.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Others
Present:
Curtis, Edelstein, Larnard and Sharp
Dukleth. Attended meeting for the Commission.
James G. Rourke, City Attorney
R. Kenneth Fleagle, Assistant City Administrator-
Community Development Director
Pat Brown, Assistant Planning Director
Mary Ann Chamberlain, Planning Commission Recording
Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
OF REGULAR MEETING
OF JUNE 26, 1972
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
UP-72-388 - George Argyros - to permit a six month display of
p~omotional banners and flags in the parkway area,
for the purpose of advertising vacancies at the
Villa Viento Apartments.
Location:
345 W. First Street
Mr. Flea~le summarized the Staff report and recommended that if it
is the pleasure of the Commission to approve this request, find-
ings should be made to justify approval on the basis of a unique
situation whereby right-of-way has been dedicated to the city for
the improvement of First Street in advance of the construction pro-
ject and the apartment complex has thus been placed at a disadvant-
age due 6o lack of public amenities.
Chairman Curtis opened the public portion of the hearing at 7:40
p.m.
Robert Southerland, 17291 Irvine Blvd., Tustin, to speak for Mr.
Argyros. The Villa Viento Apartments are asking for a temporary
~elief until the street (First) is widened and the apartments have
better exposure to the public. Mr. Southerland explained that when
First Street is widened several of the' older buildings that are now
blocking the view of the apartments will be removed and therefore
they would no longer need the flag display or sign.
Mrs. Byrd, 158 North "B" Street, Tustin, spoke in favor of the sign
and pennants.
Virginia Carlson Mackey, 320 W. First Street, Tustin, spoke against
any banners or signs in the Parkway and that on past occasions,
signs were posted on her front lawn.
The public portion of the hearing was closed at 7:48 p.m. for
alscussion among tne commissioners.
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Commissioner Edelstein made a motion to deny this use permit
e~use he ~e~ls the-C°ommission should not set a preceden~ for
future use permits of this nature. Commissioner Sharp seconded.
Commissioner Larnard felt that this was a unique situation and
the request should be granted. Staff was directed to prepare
a resolution incorporating the following findings.
That approval of such a request could set an un-
desirable precedent throughout the City;
That the Sign Ordinance permits ample time (30
days per quarter) for such displays;
That once First Street is fully improved to its
ultimate right-of-way, there will be no substantial
sight distance improvements from the present situation,
relative to exposure of this apartment development; and,
The City Council has previously granted the tem-
porary relocation of the large, freestanding sign
for this complex to the parkway, public right-of-way,
which provides ample identification for traffic on
First Street.
MOTION CARRIED:
Ayes- 3
Noes- 1
Absent- 1
UP-72-379 - Daniel M. Jones (Robert T. French) - amendment
to Use Permit and the master plan of development
approved by the use permit.
Location: Southwesterly corner of 17th Street and Prospect.
Mr. Fleagle summarized the Staff report and stated the following
factors that are of concern:
A deficit of 25 parking spaces are indicated on the
proposed plan for the subject parcel.
Buffering from the southerly adjacent E-4 residential
properties is not indicated by other than 60' of
space and a row of trees on the property line.
3. Interior parking lot landscaping is minimal.
e
A divergence from the approved plan for traffic cir-
culation.
It was recommended to the Planning Commission that this amendment
to Use Permit 72-379 be denied by the adoption of Resolution No. 1273.
Chairman Curtis opened the public portion of the hearing at 8:05
p.m.
Warren TenEyck, 822 Emerald Bay, Newport Beach, one of the co-
developers, summarized the latest plans for the Commission. There
was some discussion about the flow of traffic and the lack of a
through road system.
Donald Thamer, 1666 N. Main Street, Santa Ana, attorney for the Jones
property, explained that he felt the meeting between'the Staff and
the developers had been very unfruitful concerning the southern part
of the Jones property. Mr. Thamer stated that they were told at the
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Staff meeting that the cul-de-sac was acceptable and the through
road was not necessary to the total development. IIe further stated
that he was advised by some property owners to the south of the
Jones property that they would rather not have the road because of
the noise level. Mr. French came forward and spoke about the
two compromises that had been made between the Staff and the devel-
opers.
1. The buffer zone was increased to 60' from a previous 40'.
They increased the parking ratio to within 25 spaces of
the normal 5 per thousand ratio.
The public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:22 p.m. for
discussion among the Commissioners.
There was some discussion among the Commissioners regarding the
flow of traffic and the road not running through the Jones pro-
perty.
Mr. Flea$1e read a letter from Mr. Dunn complimenting the Planning
Commission in the manner in which they were handling this Use
Permit Amendment. Mr. Fleagle stated that he had also received
telephone calls from property owners south of the Jones property
that had the same sentiments as Mr. Dunn.
Commissioner Larnard moved for adoption of Resolution 1273,
seconded by Commissioner Sharp, denying the approval of the
amendment to Use Permit 72-379.
CARRIED: 4-0
UP-72-379 - Ethel Fuller Doty (Robert T. French) - amendment
to Use Permit and the master plan of development
approved by the use permit.
Location:
South of 17th Street approximately 569' westerly of
Prospect Ave.
Mr. Flea~le summarized the Staff report and recommended that app-
roval of subject parcel be subject to an acceptable relationship
with adjoining parcels as related to circulation and entranceways
from 17th Street.
The public portion of the hearing was opened at 8:52 p.m.
Mr. TenEy~k explained that the major change from the orgir~al master
plan is the cul-de-sac ending of the road on the southerly per-
imeter.
The public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:55 p.m. for
discussion among the Commissioners.
After some discussion among the Commissioners about the cul-de-sac
and traffic circulation a motion was brought to the floor. Comm-
issioner Larnard moved to approve this amendment to Use Permi~
72-379, subject to conditions of approval which will require pro-
vision for the extension of the cul-de-sac on the southerly per-
imeter road easterly to the property line, and designation of
17th Street curb cuts by the City Engineer. Commissioner Sharp
seconded this motion.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
PUBLIC HEARINGS
V-72-284 - Roger B. Robbins - to permit construction of a two-
car garage with less than the minimum required
separation distance from the main structure; less
than a minimum requi~ed overall dimensions; and,
with a potentially obstructed access for a standard
size auto.
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Location: 540 Pacific Street
Mr. Brown summarized tke Sta~ repor~ and s~at~d %i~L du~ii~d
inspections of the ~]3eject indicated that the new structure, when
completed, would violate three precepts or provisions of the Build-
ing and Zoning Codes:
It would be located only 8' from the main structure,
whereas code would require a minimum 10' separation.
Whereas Code would normally require minimum 20' x 20'
interior dimensions, the proposed structure would have
exterior dimensions 17'6" wide and 22' in depth. The
17% width would not permit the parking of two standard
sized automobiles.
As a result of the proposed location of this new structure
in relationship to the existing main structure, it would
be almost physically impossible to maneuver a second
standard sized automobile into the garage.
It was recommended that if the variance is approved, the Staff
would recommend a condition of such approval be that all kitchen
and bathroom facilities located in the accessory structure be re-
moved, since such facilities are not permitted in accessory struct-
ures in the R-1 District.
Chairman Curtis opened the public portion of the hearing at 9:10 p.m.
Roger Robbins, 540 Pacific Street, Tustin, owner and applicant,
gave a brief history about the property in question and the pro-
blems of updating the home and surroundings. The present site does
not have an existing garage of any type. The existing structure
to which the garage will be attached is to be utilized strictly as
a den by the owner of the property and will h~ve no kitchen faciliti
or cooking equipment. Denial of this variance would cause un-
necessary hardship, result in practical difficulties and withhold
from the neighborhood the benefit of such an improvement. Granting
the variance would be beneficial, not detrimental to the public wel-
fare, safety and property located in the vicinity and not in con-
flict with the general purpose and intent of the City of Tustin's
zoning plan.
Art Jenkins, 623 East Wilson, Orange, contractor for Mr. Robbins
stated his reasons as to why the garage has to be built at this
particular location.
There was an accessory structure built to the rear
of the home prior to the existing zoning ordinance.
This structure, due to the construction materials
utilized, is in the nature of a permanent rather
than temporary facility. Therefore, the cost of re-
moval of this facility is prohibitive.
2. The width of the property is only 50' wide.
If the garage were to be located behind the accessory
structure, this would put a financial hardship on the
owner and ruin the backyard landscaping.
Harry Stanley, 535 South Pacific, Tustin, presented his views to
the Commission in favor of the variance.
William Finken, 550 Pacific Street, Tustin, presented 'his views to
~he Commission in favor of the variance.
Public portion of the hearing was closed at 9:30 p.m.
Commissioner Larnard questioned Mr. Jenkins about the stop work
order issued by the Building Department. Mr. Jenkins replied
that there was a misunderstandin~ as to whom was to purchase the
building permit. :.:r. Jenkin~ thou.qht that :~.r. Robbins was going
to purchase it and :.~.r. '.-<obbJ. n:~ thought ~!r. JenkJn:~ was going to
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purchase it. After discussion among the Commissioners, Mr. Robbins
was recalled to the podium and asked if he would be agreeable to
work with our Staff to re-analyze and investigate the possibility
of a new design which would be both more compatible and functional.
Mr. Robbins agreed. Commissioner Larnard moved to continue the
public hearing for Variance 72-284 at their July 24, 1972 meet-
ing. Commissioner Sharp seconded this motion.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
OLD BUSINESS - NONE
NEW BUSINESS - NONE
CORRESPONDENCE
1. Orange County Tentative Tract Map 7919 - William Zink
Location:
Subject property is located on the southeasterly side
of Newport Avenue, just southwesterly of the intersection
of Warren Avenue and Newport Avenue.
Mr. Fleagle summarized the Staff report and recommended that the
Planning Commission recommend to the Orange County Planning Com-
mission that a serious view of this proposal be taken prior to
any consideration of approval of the requested Tentative Tract
Map. The criteria should be consistent to the effect that if the
project was not originally developed to meet the design standards
of a condominium, it should not be favorably considered as such
at a subsequent period of time.
Commissioner Edelstein moved to instruct Staff to prepare
correspondence to the Orange County Planning Commission in-
corporating the recommended comments. Commissioner Sharp
seconded the motion.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
Invitation from Southern California Planning Congress -
meeting of July 13, 1972, at Grandview Gardens in Los
Angeles.
Mr. Fleagle read the announcement and advised the Commission to
contact Staff if they wished to make a reservation.
3. Memorandum from the California Roadside Council.
Mr. Fleagle summarized the memorandum for Commission discussion.
Commissioner Sharp moved that the Planning Commission direct Staff
to sub~it a letter in substance of these findings to the Federal
Highway Commission, seconded by Commissioner Larnard.
The City of Tustin endorses the proposal that the removal of
billboards from the landscape of America should be by amort-
ization at no expense to the public and without the provision
of Federal law that would compensate for the removal of
that which is a blight upon the landscape of America.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
Orange County Sanitation Districts - Location of West Relief
Trunk Sewer.
Mr. Fleagle summarized the Engineer's report and informed the
Commissioners that this project is not in conflict with the Tustin
General Plan. Commissioner Larnard moved to have Staff prepare
correspondence concuring with the location of this new sewage
~acl±lty as requested Dy the ~anltat~on D~strlct s uDject to the
approval by the City Engineer of the precise location of this
facility within the existing City street right-of-way.
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This motion was seconded by Commissioner Sharp.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
STAFF CONCERNS
1. Summary of Development Preview Commission Actions - First Half
of 1972.
2. Shell Oil Company is terminating its proceedings for the Use
Permit action of a self-service gasoline station.
3. League of California Cities Annual Conference to be held in
Anaheim on October 15 - 18, 1972. Staff will keep the Com-
missioners informed.
Pending Applications
Zone Change - Applicant:
COR~ISSION CONCERNS
Dr. M. Roshan, Nisson Road, Tustin.
Commissioner Edelstein raised the question about the traffic lights
on Newport Avenue at Mitchell and the Freeway. Mr. Fleagle ad-
vised the Commission that construction plans are under development.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION - NONE
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Edelstein moved for adjournment at 90:35 p.m.,
seconded by Commissioner Larnard; unanimously carried.
CHAI~N OF PLANNING COM~IISSION
PLANNING/' COMMISSION RECORDING SECRETARY