HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 09-27-71 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
CITY OF TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 27, 1971
The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission was held
on the 27th day of September at the hour of 7:30 p.m. of said day in
the Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street, Tustin, California.
The Pledge of Allegiance was given by Commissioner Edelstein.
The Invocation was given by Commissioner Curtis.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Others
Present:
Larnard, Curtis, Edelstein, Dukleth
Sharp
R. Kenneth Fleagle, Asst. CA - Comm. Development Director
Pat Brown, Ass't. Planning Director
Jean M. Smith, Planning Comm. Recording Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
OF REGULAR MEETING
OF SEPTEMBER 13, 1971
Moved by Mr. Curtis, that the minutes of the September 13, 1971 meeting
be approved, as corrected; seconded by Mr. Edelstein.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
Zonin9 Ordinance ~o. 157, as amended - Amendment to Section 11.34 -
requirement that one garage shall be pr~vide¢
per unit in multiple-family developments.
Mr. Brown advised that subject hearing was continued from the previous
~eeting' in light of the many ramifications associated with the proposal,
and it was felt further study and consideration should be given the
matter. In addition, Mr. Gared Smith had offered to give a presenta-
tion of slides illustrating the use of Carports Vs. Garages. The City
Council at their August 16, 1971 meeting, had directed the Planning
Commission to initiate a public hearing for said amendment to the Zoning
Ordinance No. 157.
Staff has been in contact with Mr. Royce Coln, Area Manager of the
Building Industry Association, as well as the various cities in Orange
County, to whom questionnaires were sent, and six additional replies
have been received since the last meeting. Three of those six cities
indicated that garages were a requirement for multiple-family develop-
ments, however, two out of the three indicated that either by the
variance procedure or commission action, the garage requirement might
be eliminated, if in the rear of the property or were not visible from
public streets, then carports could be used.
Staff would recommend that the Commission, after hearing any new evi-
dence presented this evening, take the matter under consideration to
determine the assets and liabilities of the suggested amendment from
the viewpoint of aesthetics, economics, quality of development, fire
and safety, use of structure, elimination of off-street parking, and
the'impact upon future and existing developments. Findings could then
be forwarded to the City Council by Resolution, with recommendations.
The public portion of the hearing was re-opened by Mr. Larn~rd at
8:38 p.m.
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Nit. Gared Smith, 2043 Westcliff, Newport Beach~ presented slides
Illustrating the Carports Vs. Garages, as related to use and design.
Many slides were shown of various apartment complexes, condominiums
and smaller developments all located within Orange County. From the
slides shown the following points were illustrated:
1)
Where carports are provided, they are used to a greater
degree than where garages are provided.
2)
Where garages are provided, more than 50% are not used for
parking of automobiles, but rather for storage of anything
and everything.
3)
Where garages are provided with lockable doors, it was apparent
about 3 out of 5 doors were not closed or locked, and appeared
to be in poor operating condition.
4)
Where carports or open parking is provided, it was more fre-
quently used than the garage accommodations on the same site.
5)
With carports and open parking, landscaping and arrangements
for parking made for a more aesthetic appearance.
6)
With garages more trash, junk, etc. was apparent, creating
unsanitary, unhealthy and fire hazardous conditions.
7)
Lighting for carport and open parking areas is much better than
in garage areas.
~r. Royce Coln, representing Building Industry Association, stated they
approached the issue of carports Vs. garages from a different viewpoint,
that of the property managers and tenants. From a survey conducted of
property management associations, covering over 7,000 apartments in
four counties, it was a unanimous feeling that carports were favored
over closed garages. One main determining factor was from the stand-
point of cleanliness, in that they were able to exercise control over
carports, as they' were open and visible;able to be cleaned up by manage-
ment whereas in closed garages no control was possible. With no control,
much trash, junk, etc. is stored in garages, thus resulting in many
small fires and sometimes a major fire.
Public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:05 p.m. by Mr.Larnard.
A lengthy discussion followed among the Commissioners and Staff, with
the general feeling being that carports were favored over garages,
concurring with the many advantages pointed out above. It was also
brought out that our present ordinance does not require two parking
spaces for each multiple-family unit, but the Council desire had been
achieved by design review and zoning actions. One of the problems,
however, to be solved is the elimination of the on-street parking.
The Development Preview Commission has been instructed by the City
Council to consider the accessibility and convenience of on-site
parking in conjunction with the approval of development plans. The
consensus of opinion was that if the carports or open parking was con-
venient, people would use it; however, if on-street parking was more
convenient, it would be used by choice, by most people. Convenience
is the deciding factor, whether it be garages.~ carports or open
parking, or on-street parking.
The Commissioners generally agreed that it would be their desire to
leave the Ordinance as it now stands, authorizing carports in multiple-
family developments, which are subject to design review by the Develop-
ment P~eview Commission.
Mr. Curtis moved to instruct Staff to prepare a Resolution for the ap-
proval of the Commission at their next meeting, to incorporate the ideas
as presented, suggested and expressed to the Commission; with no change
recommended in the present parking requirements for multi-family
developments; seconded by Mr. Dukleth.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
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NEW PUBLIC ItEARINGS
PUBLIC HEARING NO. 1
PZ-71-126 and AMENDMENT TO THE TUSTIN AREA GENERAL PLAN
(Re-advertised from the June 14, 1971 meeting)
Location:
Subject properties are generally bounded by the Santa Ana
Freeway to the northeast; Myford Road to the southeast; the
Santa Fe Railroad main line and Moulton Parkway to the
southwest; and the Santa Fe Railroad Venta Spurline to the
northwest.
Mr. Fleagle stated the application requested a change from the Orange
County Agricultural - Agricultural Residential District to the City of
Tustin Planned Community Residential District on the subject property.
The proposal is planned to accommodate Low, Low Medium and Medium High
Residential Developments, pursuant to the Planned Community District
regulations.
Staff has not presented any specific recommendations at this time, but
the matter has been discussed with the Irvine Company and there will be
additional discussions. It is requested the Commission review the
development criteria and it would be Staff's recommendation the hearing
be opened tonight to take public testimony, and by Minute Order continr
the public hearing until the October 11, 1971, meeting of the Commissi¢
In the interim period, on the basis of information given at this meetin
and the review of the documents, a workshop session be scheduled with t
City Council prior to closing the public hearing and adoption of a
Resolution.
in addition, a communication has been received from the Marine Corps
Air Station in Santa Ana, stating they have no objection to development
of the area in Parcel No. 1, other than the prospective homeowners
should be advised the area is subject to overflights of helicopters,
both day and night, at altitudes ranging from 500 to 1,000 feet; along
with attendant aircraft noise and vibration. It was the Marine Corps
recommendation that homes or schools built in the parcel known as the
Browning Air Corridor be sound attenuated to an acceptable noise level
of below 80 PN decibels; also they would object to any development
within that area which is the subject of the easement or flight over-
path. However, no development is proposed in this area; it being sub-
ject to a separate agreement between the Irvine Company and the Marine
Corps.
Correspondence was also received frDm the Bureau of School Planning,
Department of Education, State of California, stating there appeared
to be no objection from a safety viewpoint on any of the school sites,
however, did recommend a sound study be made to determine the extent
of sound suppressant materials necessary for the school buildings, and
also that consideration be given to environmental aspects.
Public portion of the hearing was opened at 8:35 p.m. by Mr. Larnard.
Capt. Michael Glynn, Management Engineer of the Marine Corps Air Station
stated he might be able to clear up a few of the technical questions.
He reiterated the feelings stated in the MCAS letter previously read to
the Commission. He also explained the various flight levels and pat-
terns aircraft would be using when visibility was good and when it was
poor. He also explained the noise factors involved with helicopter
aircraft and the safety factors. He did state they are subject to
receiving many complaints from the residents in the surrounding areas
relative to the noise created by the helicopters.
James Taylor, Director of General Planning for the Irvine Company said
they had met with the City Staff on this matter and did concur with the
recommendation this matter be continued, due to the magnitude of the
situation involving a 500 acre annexation and the enormity Of the details.
plans, etc. covering the entire matter. Irvine Company is still in the
process of preparing a more precise plan in terms of schematic site
design, and it was their feeling these would be extremely helpful to
the Commission and City Council in their evaluation of this prezoning
request.
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~r. Gordon Cutler, Industrial Representative for Santa Fe Railroad
stated it was the railroad's feeling the area between the freeway and
their tracks should be retained for uses other than residential; which
was their feel%ng about the Tustin Meadows area also. It was their
hope the area would be developed with industrial uses, thus benefiting
the City of Tustin, if annexed. He also cited the dangers to the resi-
dents in the area with the tracks adjacent to the properties, and these
main line tracks must be used by the railroad; they cannot be moved. In
response to questions from Mr. Fleagle, Mr. Cutler said that he did not
have a distance standard for a tolerance level of residential develop-
ment from a railroad line, nor did he know of the final outcome of the
Public Utility Commission hearing pertaining to the relocation of the
spur track westerly of Tustin Meadows.
Mr. Ed Sweeney, President and Don Saltarelli, Vice President of the
Tustin Meadows Homeowners Association, stated they were interested in
this planned development, however voiced concern over it being too
close to the helicopter base and the railroad tracks, as they felt
Tustin Meadows was also. Concern was expressed for the prospective
schools to be built in the area, as to financing and construction of
same; in that if the houses were built, the schools should be con-
structed simultaneously and be ready for opening at the same time.
Mr. Curtis moved that we continue this hearing into a workshop session
with the City Council on October 4, 1971; continuing the hearing at
the next Blanning Commission meeting on October 11, 1971; seconded by
Mr. Edelstein.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
OLD BUSINESS
Mr. Flea~le advised there was no old business on the agenda; however,
did wish the Commission to be aware that a resolution of the oversized
realty signs was pending; we have not as yet met with the realty asso-
ciations, but have extended invitations to them of our willingness to
meet with them. Hopefully we will meet with them in the coming week.
It is anticipated that the item will be on the agenda for the next
m~eting on October 11, 1971.
NEW BUSINESS
1) PARCEL MAP PM-71-50 - Jay Andrews
Location:
North side of Irvine Boulevard, between Prospect and
"B" Street.
Mr. Brown stated this parcel was created when Tract 7332 was approved,
and is zoned "Pr" Professional District. The proposal is to divide
this large parcel into four separate parcels. All street improvements
have been constructed or their completion is guaranteed by Tract 7332
bonding. It is recommended you adopt a Minute Order approving the
parcel map subject to the following conditions:
l)
That the construction of any additional drive approaches into
Irvine Boulevard be subject to the approval of the Development
Preview Commission and the City.Engineer.
2) Final approval by the City Engineer and recordation of the map.
The applicant is advised that it may not be possible to provide
left turn access into all driveways when center islands are
constructed on Irvine Boulevard.
Als0, for the Commission's information, the Development Preview Com-
mission has approved a tentative office building on Parcel 1 for Mr.
Andrews; he is proposing to build a similar building on Parcel 2; also,
the Development Preview Commission has approved a new office building
on Parcel 3 for Mr. Robert Hall; and, we have no knowledge of plans
for Paw-el 4 at this time.
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Mr. Curtis moved a Minute Order be adopted approving Parcel :.~ap 71-50,
subject to the conditions as recon~ended by the City Engineer; secondc:
by...Mr. Edelstein.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
2) PARCEL MAP PM-71-49 - International Rectifier
Location: Red Hill/Valencia/Newport/Bell Avenue
Mr. Fleagle declared that when the Planning Commission approved Parcel
Map 71-47, it consisted of a 7 acre parcel dividing it into three lots
and as a condition to providing access to Parcel No. 2, required sub-
mission of a Master Plan of Development. In conjunction with that
Parcel Map, the major Parcel 2, as shown on the Parcel Map, had a line
extending easterly creating a separate parcel; so in effect, you had
four parcels facing Red Hill Avenue. In order to alleviate that situa-
tion, International Rectifier was requested to submit a new parcel map
to eliminate the lot division, 'thereby having a total of three parcel~
extending between Valencia Avenue to the north and Bell Avenue to the
south.
It is the recommendation of the City Engineer this parcel map be appr¢
subject to final approval by the City Engineer and recordation of the
map.
Mr. Edelstein moved that a Minute Order be adopted approving Parcel
Map PM 71-49; seconded by Mr. Dukleth.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
PENDING MATTERS
1. Zoning Ordinance Amendment No. 157 - (Dual Walls)
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Proposed amendment to Zoning Ordinance No. 157, as amended.
Elimination of dual wall requirements on property lines, between
commercial or professional districts and residential property.
MASTER PLAN OF'DEVELOPMENT (Industrial) - International Rectifier
Specific Plan No. 2
Location: Valencia, Red Hill and Bell Avenue and ATSF.
3) PZ-71-128 (Revised) TRACT MAP NO. 7420 - Jay Andrews
Application of First Western Bank & Trust Co. to permit prezoning
of subject property from the County E-4 "Residential Estate" Dis-
trict to the City of Tustin PC "Planned Community - Single Family
Residential" District, in order to develop a 29-1ot single family
subdivision.
Location:
Site is located on the east side of Prospect Avenue,
approximately 182 feet south of Theodora Drive.
4) V-71-281 - HONDA FACILITY (Canopy) - Marvin Lee
5)
To permit an architectural feature (a canopy) to extend more than
the permitted distance into a required front setback.
Location: First Street and Tustin Avenue
PZ-71-131 - Planning Commission initiated
Application to prezone subject property from the County of Orange
R-1 (Single-Family Residential) District to the City of Tustin Pr
(Professional) District to permit development of a medical/dental
building.
Location:
Northwest side of Red Hill Avenue on the northeast side
of Irvine Boulevard.
Mr. Edelstein moved that Staff be instructed to advertise this
prezoning for a public hearing at the October 11, 1971, meeting of .
the Planning Commission; seconded by Mr. Dukleth.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
CORRESPONDENCE - None
STAFF CONCERNS - None
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Mr. Edelstein inquired about the islands on Red Hill Avenue between
Laguna Road and Irvine Boulevard; whether they were to be constructed
on through to Walnut. He also asked whether Red Hill would be repaved
and if the street striping on Red Hill would be refurbished.
Staff advised that the islands would not be extended through to Walnut
inasmuch as part of the street was in County area; the repaving and
striping of Red Hill were also matters of County allocation of funds,
since the area between Laguna Road and north of San Juan is in the
county jurisdiction.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION - None
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Edelstein moved that the meeting be adjourned to a workshop session
with the City Council following their meeting on October 4, 1971.
PLYING COMMISSION RECORDING
SEC RETARY
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