HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 06-28-71 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF TIIE
CITY OF TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 28, 1971
The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission was
'.,held on the 28th day of June at the hour of 7:30 p.m. of'said day
in the Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street, Tustin, California.
The Pledge of Allegiance was given by Commissioner Edelstein.
The Invocation'was given by Co~missioner Mahoney.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Absent:
Larnard, Curtis, Edelstein, Mahoney (Mr. Sharp arrived
shortly after approval of minutes)
None
Others
Present:
James G. Rourke, City.Attorney (arrived at approximately
9:00 p.m0 from a City Council Workshop meeting)
Pat Brown, Ass't. Planning Director
Jean M. Smith, Planning Commission Recording Sect'y.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
OF REGULAR MEETING
OF JUNE 14, 1971
Moved by Mr. M~honey, seconded by Mr. Curtis, that the minutes of
the June 14, 1971, meeting be approved, as submitted.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-0
PUBLIC HEARINGS - CONTINUED,
PZ-71-127 - P.lanning Commission Initiated - request for prezone
change from the Orange County P-A (Professional Admin-
istrative) District to the 35
City of Tustin Pr (Professional) District.
Location:.
Site fronts approximately 100 feet on the southeast
side of Red Hill Avenue and approximately 140 feet on
the northeast side of Mitchell Avenue.
Mr. Brown presented the Staff Report, stating that subject hearing
had been continued from the June 14, 1971, meeting inasmuch as
there were problems relative to the actual owner of the property,
his desires as to prezon~ng 'and annexation action, and also engi-
neering problems connected with the property. During the interim
period it has developed that the property is now in escrow; indica-
tions are that the engineering problems can be solved; and, Mr. Ford,
the seller of the property, states he has no objection to the pre-
zoning action or any subsequent annexation, and the buyer, Mr. Kvidt
indicates he too, is in agreement with these actions. In view of
the potential resolvement of the problem areas, it is recommended
t'he Planning Commission recommend approval of prezoning subject pro-
perty to the City Council by. adoption of Resolution No. 1219.
Mr. Larnard opened the publid portion of the hearing at 7:35 p.m.
Mr. Reuben Kvidt, broker for Westland Realty, who is purchasing the
property, stated it was their intention to remodel this property for
a real estate office, solve the sewer and drainage problems, make im-
provements on the property itself, provide parking area and landscape
the grounds. ~
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can Adams, 18] E1 Camino Rea], Tustin, stated she has no objec-
].ion to the subject pro}~erty going in as "C-l". She remarked that
.she did not want her property, adjoining Dr. Koentopp's land, to be
zoned C-1. She has nothing against subject rezoning itself.
Public portion of the hearing was closed by Mr. ~arnard at 8:38 p.m.
Mr. Curtis stated this property had been rezoned by the County to
the same zoning being requested by this prezone action; and Mr.
Mahone¥ remarked that the prezone action being taken is for "Pr"
rather than "C-i" as mentioned by Mrs. Adams. There was some dis-
cussion as to the development of the property, if and when it is
annexed to the City, and what control the City might have over i
development. Mr. Brown state~ that if the renovation took place
after annexation, the C'ity would have full control over these ma~
Mr. Sharp made a motion that the Commission recommend approval of
this prezoning to the City Council, by adoption of Resolution 1219;
seconded by Mr. Edelstein.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
PUBLIC HEARING NO. 1
PZ-71-129 - Planning Commision Initiated on behalf of Orange Coast
Construction Co., 2909 Halladay, Santa Ana, California.
Request to prezone from the County R-4 (Suburban Resi-
dential) District to the City of Tustin PC R-3 2,000
(Planned Community, Multiple-Family, 2000 square feet
of land area per unit) District.
Location:
Site fronts approximately 340 feet on the northeast
side of San Juan Street, is approximately 330 feet
northwest of the center line of Utt Street and is ap-
proximately 2.34 acres in area.
A resume of the Staff Report was given by Mr. Brown stating that
the applicant has submitted concept plans for the development of
this property, indicating a 50 unit multiple-family complex with
a density o~ a~proximately 21 units per acre -- 2047 square feet
of land area per unit. Ten three bedroom units and 40 two bedroom
units are proposed, with a parking ratio of two spaces per unit,
with all dwelling units to be two stories in height. The Tustin
Area General Plan indicates this immediate~.area as in a transition
zone between high density (12 units to the acre) and medium density
(4 units to the acre). This project was reviewed by the Develop-
ment Preview Commission at their May 16th and 23rd meetings, with
the consensus of opinion being it w~s compatible to the surrounding
area as designed.
This proposal is substantially in line with the City Council's
desires in recent months relative to multiple-family developments
(a maximum density of approximately 20 dwelling units to an acre
and a 2 to 1 parking ratio); however, the indications of the
Council and Planning Commission through their past actions have
been that higher density apartment developments in the area north-
east of the Santa Ana Freeway and southeast of Newport Avenue are
not the most desirable type of land development, and in fact, have
raised strong objections to such developments to the Orange County
Planning Co~mission and Board of Supervisors for similar cases
within the County.
.St~ff has not made a recommendation in this matter, feeling that
th~ Commission will have to consider the desirability of this 50%
density increase request in light of the factors presented and any
ramifications this density might produce in the surrounding area.
Mr. Larnard opened the public portion of the hearing at 7:50 p.m..
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Mr. Bob llall, 17452 Irvine Boulevard, Tustin, representing the
builder and the landowners, the Means Family, said the site has
m~y problems which they are trying to resolve. The developer
is very conscious of these and is attempting to present a develop-
men~ attractive to the ~i~y..a.~.-3~.~he surrounding area and residents.
Und~'r the R-4 zoning which this property is now zoned,. 34 units
would be allowed; and if 3-bedroom units were constructed, this
would allow 102 bedrooms.. Orange Coast Construction is proposing
110 bedrooms, but do not feel this is actually adding more people,
so to speak, only 16 more kitchens. We do feel that under COunty
zoning they are much less r~strictive than City of Tustin, and
we are presenting a much better controlled development under Tustin's
PC R-3 zone, with more consideration for the aesthetic values and
for the surrounding area and residents.
The people listed below, as part of a group of approximately 30
people from the adjacent subdivision, spoke against this prezoning
action; their main objections being the higher density, the car-
ports being next to the property lines, the two story construction,
traffic congestion, and the fact that in 1968 the Tustin Planning
Commission recommended denial to the Orange County Planning Com-
mission for a Variance filed with that Body requesting permission
to reduce the living area to 2,571 square feet per unit from 3,000
Square feet per unit for a condiminium development just southeast
of subject property. (A copy of the Agenda and letter from the
Tustin Planning Commission on this matter was presented to Chairman
Larnard).
Mr. Nelson Baker, 1252 Andrews Street
Mr. Stanford Burrows, 1322 Andrews Street
Dr. Robert Collier, 13621 Charloma Drive
Mr. Guy .Kimberly, 1272 Andrews Street
Mr. Ed Collen, 1342 Andrews Street
Mr. Bill Sweetman, 1282 Andrews Street
Mr. William F. Reed, 160 Centennial Way, Tustin, architect for the
applicant stated they had given careful consideration to the resi-
dential property to the north, maintaining an 8 feet high wall to
the rear of the carports, and the people in that area will not see
any carports, per se, only the block wall. They have allowed 53 ft.
from the nearest main building to the rear property line, and also
on the property line they intend to plant large enough trees for
a buffer zone, and all ground units have a patio area of approxi-
mately 300 square feet. The parking areas are broken up, divided
between the east, north and west property lines, and the drive is
shaded with shrubbery on each side. They feel that for this parti-
cular site this is a very good solution with the adjacent property
owners in mind.
The public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:17 p.m. by Mr.
Larnard.
A brief discussion followed among the Commissioners reflecting on
the County z~ning requirements, specifically with regard to two-
story structures. Mr. Brown indicated subject property could be
developed under County standards with two-story or 35 ft. high
buildings, and much closer to the rear property line than shown on
these plans. A member of the audience, in opposition, indicated
the Counfy required a variance for a two story in a nearby
development. Also mentioned was the Park Land Dedication Ordinance,
and Staff advised that inasmuch as this has not been passed by the
City Council as yet and will not go before the Council until August;
whereas, this prezone action will come before the Council in July,
so if approved, the applicant would be exempt from the provisions
of the Park Land Dedicatio.n Ordinance.
Mr. Edelstein stated that,because extraordinary circumstances were
not presented, he did not .feel an increase in density for this
particular area should be 'allowed, and moved that application
PZ-71-129 for prezone be denied; seconded by Mr. Curtis.
'MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
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Mr. Brown :.~tatcd for the benefit of the audience and applicant,
-this prczone action will automatically go before the City Council;
the Planning Commission in such action is only a recommending body
rather than a final legislating body, and this will be on the
Council Agenda for July 19, 1971.
OLD BUSINESS
V-71-279 -- Sol Zwirn, 17361 Laurie Lane, Tustin
Location:
Site fronts approximately 120 feet on the north side
of First Street and approximately 118 feet on the
east side of "B" Street.
Mr. Brown reviewed the Staff Report on this Variance, which the
Commission granted at their last meeting by adoption of Resolutio:
No. 1221, wherein they denied the request for a five feet structu. _.
setback, but conditionally granted the variance for only 23 on-site
parking spaces, in lieu of 36 as required by Code. A condition of
the parking variance was that the Staff and City Attorney would
attempt to resolve with the applicant any possible future off-site
parking problems which might be created by this deficiency. If the
matter could not be satisfactorily resolved, subject Variance was
to be returned to the Planning Commission for reconsideration. In-
asmuch as the applicant was not agreeable to signing an Agreement,
as suggested by the City Attorney, to the effect if a parking de-
ficiency arose, he would lease or purchase off-site parking within
300 feet of the site, the matter has been returned to the Commission.
A lengthy and extensive discussion followed among the Commissioners,
Staff, City Attorney and the applicant. The major points discussed
were the possible formation of a parking assessment district for
the First Street area, (which the applicant stated he is more than
willing to join); the possibility of requiring a cash deposit from
the applicant to be held by the City for a specific period of time
in the event a parking assessment district is formed; the posting
of a bond; and, the parking requirements of a Pr (Professional)
District Vs. C-1 (Commercial) District.
Mr. Edelstein moved that Resolution 1221 be amended by adding th'
condition t~at~Mr. Zwirn be required to sign an agreement to joi~
a parking asseUsment district, when such a district is formed;
seconded by Mr. Sharp.
Further discussion ensued over the methods of assessing for
the parking distri6t and solving the poter~aial parking problems for
this location. Mr. Edelstein then withdrew his motion, which was
agreeable to his second.
A motion was then made by Mr. Mahoney. to continue this matter until
the next Planning Commission meeting on July 12, 1971, to allow the
City Attorney time to research the matter further; seconded by Mr.
Shar~.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
CORr~ESPONDENCE
Orange County Case ZC-71-38 - Zone Change request from County R-4
-- ~7~0U0~ P~--(3,000) "Suburban Residential - Planned
Development" District to the R-2 (1500) "Group Dwellings
District.
Lo~ation:
Site is located on southeasterly side of Newport Ay..
about 200 feet northeasterly of Wass Street, in the
northeast Tustin Area.
Mr. Brown gave a synopsis of the Staff Report, relating the existing
zoning would permit multiple-family development, requiring either
7000 square feet of land area per dwelling unit or 3000 square feet
per unit, if under a Planned Development concept. The present
request is to permit multiple-family development with only 1500
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square feet of land area per'unit, or twice the density permitted
under.the most liberal provision of the present zoping. Staff is
concerned about the increased number of requests for increased
density in areas covered by the Tustin Area General Plan, and
also has concern for the added traffic this will present on Newport
Avenue. It is Staff's.reconuBendation that a communication be ad-
dressed to the Orange County Planning Commission recommending'dis-
approval of this zone change, After some discussion Mr. Edelstein
moved that Staff prepare an appropriate letter to the Orange County
Planning Commission requesting they recommend disapproval of this
request to the Board of Supervisors; seconded by Mr. Mahoney.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
STAFF CONCERNS
Mr. Brown made the statement there were no pending applications for
public hearings at the next Planning Commission meeting on July 12,
1971. He inquired if the Commissioners had anything they would like
to discuss at that meeting, ~o which Mr. Curtis replied it might be
well to have a work shop session discussing the First Street analysis,
also the Commercial Planned Development, with specific interest being
on the parking districts.
Mr. Brown advised that the Orange Coqnty Airport Land Use Commission
will have a public hearing on Thursday, July 1st at 7:00 p.m. in the
Planning Commission Chambers. Essentially,this Commission was formed
the early part of 1971 under the Public Utilities Code, State of
California. Their function is to serve a dual purpose: to help
alleviate aircraft pollution, and to protect airfields. Under their
charter they are required to develop a comprehensive land use plan,
and all cities in Orange County were requested to supply them with
land use plans or a General Plan.
Mayor Coco and Mr. Brown will attend this meeting to. express the
concerns of the City over the "sphere of influence" of the Airport
Land Use Commission and their administrative procedures.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Mr. Brown explained the two t~ailers on Irvine Boulevard are there
on a temporary basis and should be removed within a week or ten days.
Also, with regard to precise plans for Sixth Street extension, it is
the City Engineer's opinion that any revision or adoption of pre-
cise plans for Sixth Street should be closely coordinated with the
E1 Camino Real Development and should work toward providing maximum
land use benefit in implementing this development plan. It is his
feeling it is somewhat premature to move ahead at this time on precise
plans for Sixth Street.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION - None,
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Mahone¥ moved to adjourn the meeting at 10:20 p.m.
~ CI{A%RMAN OF~.TiIE--P~I~NIN~ COMMISSION~
PL~I/ING COMMISSION RECORDING* SECRETARY
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