HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 05-25-70 MINUTES OF TIIE REGULAR MEETING
of the
CITY OF TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
MAY 25, 1970
The regular meeting of the City of Tustin Planning Commission
was held on the 25th day of May, 1970, at the hour of 7:40 p.m.
of said day in the Council Chambers, 275 South "C" Street,
Tustin, California.
ROLL CALL
Present: Edelstein, Curtis, Mahoney, Larnard
Absent: Ludwig
Others
Present: James G. Rourke,'~ity Attorney
R. Kenneth Fleagle, Ass't. City Administrator-
Community Development Director
D. L. "Pat" Brown, Ass't. Planning Director-
Zoning Administrator
Jeannine Lindsey, Planning Commission Recording
Secretary
(In accordance with Section XII of the Procedural Guide, City of Tustin
Planning Commission, adopted August 26, 1968, Chairman Pro Tem, Howard
Larnard, assumed the office of Chairman ~ Larry Webster.)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
OF REGULAR MEETING
MAY 11, 1970
Moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mr. Edelstein. that the minutes
of May 11, 1970, be approved as submitted.
UP-70-341 - PALOS VERDES PENINSULA TENNIS CLUB~ INC., ON BEHALF
OF RALPH SCHENCK.
To establish a swim school-swim club and athletic
facility.
Location:
Property is located on the west side of Elizabeth
Street approximately 220' north of the centerline
of Irvine Boulevard.
Mr. Fl~agle stated that the application had been readvertised for
'the purpose of the applicant submitting a total development plan
which has now been completed. These plans indicate the swim
school and club facility are to be located in the northern portion
of the property with the remaining property being developed for
athletic facilities. Mr. Fleagle mentioned that the Development
Preview Committee made a preliminary review at their April 30,
1970, meeting with recommendations relevant to screening and
buffering of the proposed facilities from single-family properties
to the north and east. The Committee has reviewed the revised
plans and determined that the development was compatible with the
site and area subject to revisions in the plot plan as related
to structures end parking accommodations. It was further stated
by Mr. Fleagle that the City Engineer had three conditions of
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A 30 foot half-width dedication on the western
side of Elizabeth Street. This would necessitate an
additional five-foot acquisition from the depth
of the property, reducing it from the indicated
140' to 135'.
Installation of sidewalk, approved street trees and
the closure of any unused curb depressions or the
installation of concrete drive approaches.
Installation of one street light with underground
conduit.
Chairman Larnard opened the public portion of the hearing at
7:45 p.m.
Mr. Adli Roushdi, owner of the Adli Swim School, spoke on his
~wn' b~half stating that he felt all recommendations by the Staff
were complied with. He reiterated that noise would not be a
factor in the swim school. Mr.. Roushdi also showed a revision
of the plot plan indicating 16 parking spaces instead of the
original 10 spaces.
The public portion of the hearing .was closed at 7:47 p.m.
Mr. Mahone~ inquired from Mr. Roushdi what the days of operation
would be. Mr. Roushdi stated it would be a five day operation-
Monday through Friday, but available for practice swimming on
weekends. He also pointed out that the facilities would not
be for public use and that his Staff was composed of two instructors.
It was also stated that development would take place in tWO
phases and public improvements wOUld be accomplished in conjunction
with the first phase.
Moved by Mr. Mahoney, seconded by Mr. Curtis, that Resolution
#115~be adopted approving a~plic~tion No. 'UP~0-3'41 su'~ect
~o the_ conditions of the S~aff Report:
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Conformance with the.stipulated requirements of
the Fire Code as determined by the Fire Chief.
Compliance with the requirements of the Orange
County Health Department.
Compliance with the requirements of the City
Engineer as stipulated in the report dated May 6,
1970.
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Approval of development plans by the Development
Preview Committee.
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Establishment of 16 parking spaces for proposed
development.
MOTION CARRIED 4-0
UP-70-342 - ATLANTIC RICHFIELD COMPANY ON BEHALF OF FEDERATED
DEPARTMENT STORES, INCORPORATED DBA RALPH'S GROCERY
COMPANY.
Authority is requested to establish a service station in the
100-C-i-P-10,000 district.
Location: Northeast corner of 17th Street and Carroll Way.
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Mr. Fleagle stated that plans submitted with application indicate
a proposal to establish an Atlantic Richfield Service Station
at the southwest corner of the shopping center. This station
would be of Spanish style with three bays. The bays would be
open to the rear and not exposed to 17th Street or Carroll Way.
The Development Preview Committee reviewed the proposed plans
at their May 11, 1970, meeting. Their primary concern was
the parking and landscape area layout that exists on the shopping
center site. Mr. Fleagle further pointed out that the Master
Plans for the shopping center previously submitted -ZC-64-133
and UP-64-182, both indicated the proposed development of a
service station at this location. Mr. Fleagle stated that there
are adequate parking spaces on the site to accommodate the
service station. The proposal will remove some of the existing'
landscaping, however, the developer of the project indicated
additional landscaping would be placed around the building.
The City Engineer's report expressed concern relative to the
County's recent upgrading of 17~ Street from a primary to-a
major highway, as a result of the projected almost doubling of the
present traffic count on this street. The plans as submitted do
not reflect the 10 feet of dedication which would be required for
17th Street as a major highway (60 foot half-width) dedication.
Recordation of a Parcel Map as a result of the sub-leasing of
this property by Atlantic Richfield Company would be required.
Chairman Larnard opened the public portion of the hearing at
8:05 p.m.
Mr. P. D. Lipper~, 1786 West Lincoln, Anaheim, representative of
Atlantic Richfield Company, ~n~£oned ~'h~t some of the landscaping
fronting the property will be removed. This landscaping will be
adequately replaced in planters around the perimeter walls of the
property line and also around the service station building itself.
Mr. Lippert did express opposition to the 10 foot dedication stating
that it would cut down the depth from 17th Street and would require
them to use a different type of station. Mr. Lippert further went
on to say that they had contacted Ralph's Market for additional
footage but had not received any favorable agreement for such.
Ralph's Market stated this would take from their parking requirements
in the event 'that they would have any future development. Mr. Lippert
stated that the 10' dedication would definitely work a difficulty
to them but that if it were required, they would comply with it.
Mr. Jim Christeson, 3410 West Third Street, Los Angeles, represented
Ralph's Grocery Company, st~tlng that th~ey h~d acquired - an interest
in the property in question, not fee title. Mr. Christeson pointed
out that in receiving their approval in 1965 by the Council for
'the Ralph's Grocery Market, it was stipulated that 686' on 17th
Street were to be improved and 620' on Carroll Way. Mr. Christeson
further stated that if an additional dedication was necessary,
that it would encroach into their parking. Mr. Christeson contended
that a Parcel Map would not be required under present provisions of
State Law.
Mr. Norman Halus, 13662 Rosalind Drive, Tustin, expressed his
concern ~hat there is no need for a service station on the property
in question. He further pointed out that the traffic was an
existing problem on the site now, without adding to it by this
proposed development. It was also ~ontended by Mr. ~alus that at
the time the development was established that a service station was
not approved for subsequent development mt that time and was denied.
ehairman Larnard closed the pubii~ p~rtion of the hearing at 8:20 p.m.
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Mr. l.'l,~agl,, stat~,d as a matt(~r for the record that Mr. Tom
Grce--it,~----~-~71772 Birchwood Place~. Tustin has submitte~ opposition
for uP-70-342.
Moved b~ Mr. Edelstein that UP-70-342 be denied.
MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Mr. Curtis inquired from Mr. Fleagle if there had been a
research of the minutes leading up to the approval of the
shopping center to determine the reference to the service
station. Mr. Fleagle stated that UP-64-182 in March, 1965 and
ZC-64-133 were researched and that the property is in the
100-C-i-P-20,000 zone classification. It was pointed out by
Mr. Fleagle that the westerly portion is in a C-1 zone which
would be where the proposed service station is to be located.
It was stated by Mr. Fleagle that there is no indication within
the Use Permit and Zone Change.that the service station was
specifically prohibited. The m~.nutes may reflect more detailed
information but none of the res61utions state same.
Mr. Mahone¥ asked if it were possible to research the minutes
involved in this application, thereby continuing this case
for two weeks to our next scheduled meeting on June 8, 1970.
Mr. Flea~le stated if it were necessary, this research could be
done.
Moved by Mr. Mahoney, seconded by Mr. Larnard, for purposes
of discussion that UP-70-342 be approved by the conditions as
outlined by the Staff:
a. Conformance with the stipulated requirements of
the Fire Code as determined by the Fire Chief.
b. Conformance with the requirements of the City
Engineer as stipulated in the report dated May 13,
1970.
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Compliance with the requirements of Council Policy
#30-1 re: Service Station Minimum Site Development
Guide.
Condition of Filing of the Parcel Map subject to
the City Attorney's approval.
The above motion was voted by roll call:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT-
Mahoney, Larnard
Edelstein, Curtis
Ludwig
MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
Mr. Flea~le requested the Commissioners to state their reasons
for approval or denial for the benefit of the City Council in the
event that the decision is appealed. The matter was continued
and the following statements were made by the Commissioners:
Mr. Curtis stated that his reasons.for denial were:
Lack of evidence for the requirement of another
service station on the site.
a. ;~obLem o£ ~=&££1o oongee~/on.
3. Keeping~ the 10' right-of-way requirement in.
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Mr. Edelstein stated that his reasons for denial were:
Traffic congestion coming in and out to Carroll
Way and also onto 17th Street.
The 10' right-of-way would have hindered the
design of the building.
Mr. Larnard stated that his reasons for approval were:
Felt that the turning lane at the intersection was
a prime concern.
The corner will have to develop with some type of
development for the whole shopping center was
designed for something to go in on that corner.
3. Felt that service stations didn't necessarily add
to traffic when consideration is given to the
various operations %~at could go onto that corner·
Mr. Mahoney stated that his reasons for approval were:
1. It was a use that was permitted in the area.
It is the first service station when you are going
west, that you come onto within two miles from
Newport Boulevard.
Does not feel that there is a criteria to limit the
number of service stations in a. specific area.
Mentioned that he felt traffic was not a problem,
especially with the two entrances to Ralph's; one
by the Sizzler and one by Carroll ~ay.
UP-70-343- SHELL OIL COMPANY, ON BEHALF OF EDGAR E. PANKEY.
Authority is requested to erect a free-standing sign,
within 200' of a freeway, exceeding the maximum
permitted height, display area, and number of signs
for a given site.
Location:
Property is located at the northwest corner of Red Hill
and Laguna Road.
Mr. Fleagle stated that the sign was previously the subject of a
~'flagging" action in 1964. Plans submitted with the present
'application indicate a proposal to erect a 60 foot high, 294
square foot (total aggregate area) free-standing sign at the
southwest corner of subject property. Mr. Fleagle also pointed
out that there is an existing 72 square foot rotating free-
standing sign located at the southeast corner of the property
and two Shell logo roof signs of approximately 25 square feet each.
The Development Preview Committee at their May 14, 1970, meeting
considered all submitted plans. They approved the renovation
plans for the structure itself, and gave conditional approval to
the landscaping plans. The Development Preview Committee did
recommend that a single pole would be preferable to the tripod
for the freeway identification sign. It was the opinion of the
Committee that some flexibility in signing shoul4 be considered
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Mr. Fl~.a,]lc stated that a letter of opposition of this
application was received from Mr. Tom Greeley, 14772 Birchwood.
Place, Tustin.
Chairman Larnard pointed out that a letter of approval was
receiVed from Mr. Chris Lindle~, P. O. Box 10213, Santa Ana,
requesting a larger sign for the service station on this site.
Chairman Larnard opened, the public portion of the hearing
at 9:05 p.m.
Mr. Martin Zaldo, represented: the Shell Oil Company, presented
%heir proposal for a 60' high sign at the existing service
station at Red Hill and Laguna. Mr. Zaldo stated that the
sign they are proposing is a 12' x 12' - 144 square foot sign.
He stated that they do not feel that it is impossible to run
the service station without a rotating sign, although greatly
desired in keeping with their national sign image. Mr. Zaldo
further pointed out that a stat/pnary sign or a fixed rotator
facing Red Hill will provide th~ with sign visibility on Red
Hill.
Mr. Larr~ Webster, 13532 Loretta Drive, T~stin, stated he thought
the property was no cl6ser to the freeway than 220' and therefore
would require a variance. He also voiced an opinion on the
use of a tripod on the mass of a sign.
Chairman Larnard closed the public portion of the hearing at 9:15 p.m.
Moved b~ Mr. Mahone~, s~conded by Mr. Edelstein,'that UP-70-343
be continued to the June 8, ~970, meeting, for the purpose of
a flagging of the si~n height in the interim.
MOTION CARRIED 4-0
PRECISE PLAN FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF A STREET TO SERVE THE INDUSTRIAL
AREA.
Mr. Fleg~le stated that a public hearing has been given pursuant
to Ordinance No. 157, ~he Zoning Ordinance, as amended in
Section 65351 of the Government'Code of the State of California,
which is the Planning and Zoning Law. This Specific Street Plan
establishment would serve the industrial area bounded by
Warner Avenue, Red Hill Avenue, Valencia Avenue and the Newport
Freeway. Said proposed street is to contain 60' of right-of-way
equally divided on the centerline between portions of Lots 95
and 96, adjoining portions of Lots 81 and 82, Block 10, Irvine
'Subdivision. The street extends westerly from Red Hill Avenue
to a point 125' easterly of the right-of-way of Newport Freeway
culminating in a cul-de-sac with'a 56' turning radius. Upon
adoption of this street plan, i~ would be developed by the
adjoining parcel owners as a condition of improvement or building
permits. The quadrant of greatest interest is the southwesterly
quadrant which is a portion of LOt 96, Block 10 (a 37 acre. parcel).
The northwesterly parcel, a portion of Lot 81, Block 10, is
owned by the City.Service Corporation. An interest was expressed
in the possibility of extending Del Amo, a street southerly to
connect with the unnamed industrial street.
Chairman Larnard opened the public portion of the hearing at
9:40 p.m.
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There being no response from the audience, the public portion
of the hearing was closed at 9:41 p.m.
Moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mr. Edelstein that Resolution
No. 1160 be adopted r~commendin~ approval of the establishment
of the unnamed street called for and consideration be ~ive~
~or future action fbr"the extension o~' Del Amo Street.
MOTION CARRIED 4-0
PARCEL MAP - PM-70-35 - RICHARD B. SMITH, INC., AND CHARLES F.
GREENWOOD.
To create three parcels for commercial development.
Location:
South side of Irvine Boulevard, from Prospect Avenue
to 632' east of Prospect Avenue.
Mr. Flea~le stated that the pre~.ent zoning for all the parcels
is 100-C-l-P-15,000. The proposal is divided into three parcels;
parcel 1 contains an older single-family residence which is
used for business purposes; parcel 2 is undeveloped; and the
easterly portion of parcel 3.contains the corporate headquarters
for the Richard B. Smith, Inc. Mr. Fleagle further pointed out
that Irvine Boulevard at that location is in the County of Orange
and not within the City limits. Irvine Boulevard was upgraded
by the Board of Supervisors from a primary to a major highway
currently carrying 14,000 vehicles per day with an estimate by
the County that it will carry 25,000+ vehicles. There are
two pertinent factors to be discussed for this proposed Parcel
Map:
Traffic with the ultimate development of the new
City of Irvine.
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In order to gain any funds from the County for street
purposes, Irvine Boulevard will have to be declared
a major arterial providing for a 120' of right-of-way
or the elimination of parking to provide three lanes
of traffic in each direction.
Mr. Charles Greenwood,366 East First Street, Tustin, expressed his
oppositi~n"'for t~e granting 6'f 10 feet of additional street
right-of-way for Irvine Boulevard plus a standard corner cut-off
at Prospect Avenue.
Mr. Scott Biddle, Vice President of Richard B. Smith, Inc.
also expressed'his opposition for the dedication of the 10'
'of right-of-way. Mr. Biddle stated that the plans for this
development are developed to their final state and are presently
before plan check at the City, and thus, this dedication would
be a tremendous hardship to consider at this late date of
development. He further stated it was impossible, with the
present set of plans, to comply with the City's parking standards
and still dedicate that 10 feet.
Moved hq Mr. Mahgney, seconded by Mr. Curtis, that PM-70-35 be
~dopted by a minute order subject to the..f.ollowing coh~itions:
1. Granting standard corner cut-off at Prospect Avenue.
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Upon development of the property, annexation to the
Tustin Street Lightin~ District and installation of
street Llgh%lng on both I~vlne and P~OlpeO~ Avenue
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Granting of a 10 foot sewer easement along those
portions of the south line of Parcel 3 where the
City does not currently have sewer easement (the
easterly 117 feet).
Final approval by the City Engineer and recordation
of the Parcel Map.
MOTION CARRIED 4-0
CORRESPONDENCE NO. 1 - UNDERGROUNDING OF STREET LIGHT ON DRY
CLEANING ESTABLISHMENT AT LAGUNA ROAD
AND EL CAMINO REAL (UP-70-340)
This item comes as information to the Commission.
CORRESPONDENCE NO. 2 - COUNTY C~E #UP-3086 - HUMBLE OIL AND
REFINING'COMPANY.
To permit the construction of additions to the existing
service station building to be used for a car wash
in the 100-C-1-10,000 "Local Business" District.
Location:
At the most southerly corner of Red Hill Avenue and
Nisson Road, in the·south Tustin area.
Moved b~ Mr. Mahoney, seconded by Mr. Edelstein that notification
be sent to the Count~ st~tih~ that there are no objections to
County. Case #UP-3086.
MOTION CARRIED 4-0
Mr. Flea~le.presented, .for discussion and the information of
the Commissioners, Multi-Family Residential Parking· Standards.
The report was an attempt to determine the adequacy of accommodations
and parking area problems of the City of Tustin by comparison
with other communities. The Commission determined to await the
recommendations of the Development Preview Committee before taking
further action on the report.
PENDING AGENDA MATTERS
The following items are pending applications to come before the
Planning Commission on June 8, 1970.
1. ZC-70-213 - ABUNDANT WATER COMPANY DBA TUSTIN HONDA
To permit construction of auto and cycle sales and
service facility.
Location: Northwest corner of Yorba and First Street.
2. UP-70-344 - LAWRENCE J. LECHMAN
To permit the establishment of a coin-operated car
wash on the subject property.
Location: Southwest side of Laguna Road and Southeast
of Newport Boulevard.
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PENDING AGENDA MATTERS (Continued)
3. ZC-70-214 - LAWRENCE J. LEC}~AN
To permit a zone change from C-1 to C-2.
Location: Southwest side of Laguna Road and Southeast
of Newport Boulevard.
4. V-70-268 - THOMAS J. KELLY AND MARY E. KELLY
To establish a structure with less than the
minimum required frontage setback, and minimum
required number of parking spaces.
Location: West side of E1 Camino Real, north of
Main Street.
5. Amendment to General Plan - Goals - Highways.
CONCERNS OF THE COMMISSION
UP-70-343 - SHELL OIL COMPANY - Chairman Larnard and the
Commissioners settled on June 6, 1970 at
9 o'clock for the flagging of this location.
Moved by Mr. Mahoney, seconded by Mr. Edelstein that Mr.
Curtis be appointed ChAirman Pro Tem of the Planni~$ Commission.
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MOTION CARRIED 3-0
1 Abstention - - Mr. Curtis
Chairman Larnard suggested the use of an invocation on the
Planning Commi'~sion Agenda which will be given by alternate
members of the Commission.
Moved by Mr. Mahoney, seconded by Mr. E~elstein that t~e meeting
~e a~journed.
MOTION CARRIED 4-0
There being no further business to come before the Commission,
Chairman Larnard declared the meeting closed at 11:20 p.m.
SECRETARY
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