HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 03-23-70MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 23, 1970
CALL TO
ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Webster
at 7:30 p. m.
II.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
Led by Chairman Webster.
III.
ROLL
CAE
IV.
APPROVAL
OF MINUTES
Present:
Commission,-,~?s:
Edelstein, Curtis, Larnard
Halus, Maho.,,~¥, Webster
Absent: Commissioner: Ludwig
Others Present:
James G. Rourke, City Attorney
R. Kenneth Fleagle, Ass't. City
Administrator-Community Development
Director
Jeannine Lindsey, Planning Commission
Recording Secretary
It was moved by Mr. Mahoney, seconded by Mr. Larnard
that the minutes of March 9, 1970, be a~proved as
submitted.
MOTION CARRIED 6-0
Ve
PUBLIC
HEARINGS
1. UP-70-337 (PERSIAN GARDENS)-EDWARD R. HURLEY
To consider the authorization of live
entertainment in the establishment owned by
Mouness Hurley known as "Persian Gardens".
Location:
1042 East First Street, approximately
310 feet southeasterly of Newport Avenue
in C-1 District.
Mr. ~lea~le stated that a Use Permit is required for
%he presentation of live entertainment. Persian
Gardens proposes to present instrumental music and
dancing traditional to the Middle East. Standards of
permitted conduct and costume are stipulated by
Ordinance No. 347 as a condition for an Entertainment
Permit. He further pointed out that the owner was
aware of the condition set forth by the Fire Department
that flammable liquid and any open flame would not be
permitted in connection with the entertainment (dancing).
Chairman Webster opened the public portion of the
hearing at 7:34 p. m.
Mr. Edward R. Hurley, 18631 Warren Avenue, Tustin, spoke
on behalf of Mouness Hurley. He stated that the
entertainment would 'be by performers and not by customers.
He mentioned that they were aware of the conditions
set forth by the Fire Chief and that no such flammable
liquids would be used.
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VI.
NEW
BUSINESS
There being no further discussion from the audience,
the public portion of the hearing was closed at
7:38 p. m.
It was moved by Mr Halus, seconded by Mr. Mahoney,
~ha't ResolUtion No~ 1150 be adopted approving
application number UP-70-337 subject to re~ulati'ons
contained in Section 8'23, Ordinance No. 347.
MOTION CARRIED 6-0
1. UNDERGROUNDING REQUIREMENT REQUEST- TUSTIN
LUMBER COMPANY
Waiver of undergrounding requirement for
service line to cabinet shop.
Location: 135 West First Street, Tustin
Mr. Flea~le pointed out that a report from the
Building Department states that the additional
service line was installed as a requirement of the
City for the.safety of the premises. A Permit
was not applied for at that time, therefore, it
falls under the provision of Ordinance No. 455
requiring the undergrounding of new service lines.
He further stated that the main objective was to
remove the service lines from the frontage of
First Street property with the Staff having no
objection to the overhead rear service line.
There was no response from the applicant regarding
the Staff Report.
Chairman Webster summarized the statements of
background b~ stating that in essence there were
two points to be made:
Should the applicant agree to removing
the service lines from the First Street
frontage, a waiver of the undergrounding
requirement for the new rear service
line was recommended.
{2)
It was further recommended that the
applicant sign an agreement to underground
the service lines at such time as the
main utility lines were undergrounded by
the Edison Company.
Mr. Curtis pointed out that he felt our requests were
contradictory. In asking the applicant to move the
lines to the back of the property, there should be no
requirement for the commitment for undergrounding in the
future.
_Mr. Fl~agle stated it was the hope of the City that
eventually all properties be provided underground
utility service and an underground District be created
for utility lines.
Mr. Curtis stated that the TNT Committee discussions were
concerned with the ~tilities that were involved in the
First Street improvement project. He further stated
that the covenant should not be a necessary part of
this action.
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It was moved by Mr. Ilalus, seconded by Mr. Larnard,
~]at approval ~e granted for the request for waiver
~f Underground Utilities 'for Tust'Jq~ Lumber Com~any~
Subject to the following conditi~n~:
(1)
The service drops from First Street
be removed.
(2)
Ail service lines of the property be
undergrounded at the property owner's
expense at such times as Edison Company
utility lines serving First Street are
undergrounded.
The above motion was voted by ro..
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Halus, Larnard, Webster
Mahoney, Curtis, Edelstein
Ludwig
MOTION TIED 3-3
It was moved by Mr. Halus, seconded by Mr. Larnard,
that approval be granted for the request for Waiver
of Underground requirements for Tustin Lumber at
'~35 West First Street, subject to the followin~
condition:
The service drops from First Street be
removed and all service be run from the
pole at the rear of the property.
The above motion was voted by roll call.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT
Mahoney, Halus, Curtis, Edelstein, Webster
Larnard
Ludwig
MOTION CARRIED 5-1
2. COMPARABLE USE IN C-2 DISTRICT-DISTRIBUTOR COMPAN~
Letter received from Shaklee Products
Distributor Company requesting to operate
a distribution center in a store building
in the C-2 District.
Location: 462 E1 Camino Real, Tustin
Mr. Fleagle pointed out that C-2 zoning does not permit
the distribution of products as a wholesale house.
This is a use first permitted in the C-3 zone. The
discretion is on the part of the Commission to determine
those uses which are comparable to general retail sales.
A Staff Report was presented recommending the limitation~
that should be applied to a distributor, if the Commissi
determined that the use was comparable with other
permitted uses.
Mr. C. T. Gilbreath, 315 South "A" Street, Tustin,
owner of Jamestown Village, stated that the truck that
would make delivery of these packages is a one ton truck
and it delivers about 25-30 small packages per load.
lie mentioned a petition which was signed by 37 businessmen
~n "D" Street requesting that the permit be i~sued.
Mr. ~l~b~eath
Mrs. ivy Bridge were present in the audience for any
qu,.:.uluns that the Commission might have.
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Mr. Mahoney inquired what the square footage was
~ha% Mr. Gilbreath was leasing out. Mr. Gilbreath
replied that it w~S'2~500 square feet.
Chairman Webster brought up two points that he
felt to be of interest to the Commission:
(1)
(2)
There will be retail sales from the
store.
This operation is much on the basis
that you are dealing with people who
have office space for themselves and
some storage for their portion of the
products which they own and the delivery
is not being wholesaled out.
Mr. Mahoney inquired about the justification for
restricting delivery to a 1½ ton truck. He believed
this to be discriminatory and unenforceable.
Mr. Fleagle stated that the limitation on the size
of delivery vehicle was one means of attempting to
assure that the use remains compatible and does not
conflict with normal retail activities.
It was moved by Mr. Larnard, seconded by Mr. Mahone~,
that the Planning COmmission determine that the
proposed use for distribution of small personal
prod~'cts is comparable with'other perm'~tted uses in
C-2 District with fbl~ow~n~'limitations on the use to
bE applied:
(1)
Wholesale commerce and distribution to
be in conjunction with a regularly
licensed retail sales store.
(2)
Permanent on premise parking of delivery
vehicles prohibited.
(3)
Storage area of products for distribution
not to exceed 10,000 square feet of storage
area.
(4)
Determination by the Fire Department that
no fire hazard results from storage of
products, and facilities are in compliance
with all requirements of the fire code as
determined by the Fire Chief.
(5)
Products for distribution are limited to
personal or residential use.
MOTION CARRIED 6-0
VI.
CORRES-
PONDENCE
1. COUNTY CASE UP-3078 - LUTHER HUNTER
To permit the establishment of a self-
service coin-operated car wash in the C-1
"Local Business" District.
Location:
14181 Newport Avenue, approximately 280
feet northeast of McFadden Avenue.
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Mr. Flea~le stated the proposal provides for:
(1) Four (4) car wash bays
(2) Ten (10) parking stalls
(3)
A Five (5) block wall only on the
rear property line
(4)
A total property frontage of 80' with
58' of driveways, and
(5)
Four (4) offices each 10' x 10' with
no determined occupancy.
It was further pointed out that the subject property
was within the ultimate incorporated limits of the
City of Tustin. The proposed use would not be
permitted within a C-1 (Retail Commercial) District
of the City of Tustin Zoning Ordinance.
Mr. Luther Hunter, 7334 West 91st Street, Los Angeles,
~he applicant, was present and expressed his views.
Mr. Hunter stated that he has deleted one office and
will only have three thus enabling more parking space.
He said he agreed to all the conditions except the
walls on the perimeter being 6'8" in height.
Chairman Webster declared a recess at 8:35 p. m. to
review the plot plan presented by Mr. Hunter.
The meeting was reconvened at 8:45 p. m.
It was moved by Mr. Halus, seconded by Mr. Mahoney,
that the Staff direct a letter to the County in the
' County Case UP-3078 that we notify them of our concern
with the ~arkin~ of the offices and of the following:
The development of a coin-operated
car wash is not considered as an
appropriate use in a C-1 District,
as defined kY the City of Tustin Zoning
Ordinance.
(2)
If the Commission favorably considers the
application for a Use Permit for a car
wash, certain conditions should be imposed
to include the following:
(a)
additional landscaping and street
trees
(b) the rear wall 6' in height
(c)
directional lighting screened from
adjacent properties
(d)
operational hours to be limited to
10:00 p. m.
(e) accommodation of enclosed trash bins
(f)
such other design criteria and contrO%s
a~ A~e n~l~F ~o &s~.~
wi~h adjacent uses amd prohibit the
creation of a public nuisance.
MOTION CARRIED 6-0
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COUNTY REZONING PROPOSAL
To change from 100-C-1-10,000 to
R-2, R-3 and R-4
Location:
Area bounded by Nisson Road to the
north, Browning Avenue to the east,
and Red Hill Avenue to the West.
Mr. Fleagle pointed out that the Staff recommends
we advise the County of our interest in this area,
location and zone change and that we take no
further action until the matter is scheduled for
public hearing.
It was so moved b~ Mr. Larnard, seconded b~ Mr. Curtis.
MOTION CARRIED 6-0
3. COUNTY CASE UP-3072-RED HILL LUTHERAN CHURCH
To permit the addition of two classrooms
to be attached to the existing fellowship
hall in connection with an existing church
and parochial school in the R-1 "Single
Family Residence" District.
Location:
Southeast side of Red Hill approximatedly
125' southwesterly from Irvine Boulevard.
It was moved by Mr. Larnard~ seconded by Mr. Mahoney
that the Staff-Me directed to inform the County that
there is no objectiOn--from the Commission to U~3072.
MOTION CARRIED 6-0
Mr. Halus suggested that on all County Cases submitted,
the Commissioners would like to see a plot plan of the
properties in question if feasible to reproduce them.
4. 'COUNTY CASE ZC-70-3 GALY SALES CORPORATION
Proposes to change from 125-E-4-20,000
"Small Estates" District to the E-4-18,000
"Small Estates" District.
Location:
Southerly corner of La Loma Drive and
Arroyo Avenue in the northeast Tustin area.
It was moved by Mr. Halus, seconded by Mr. Larnard
that County Cas? ZC-70-3 be approved and that the '
Commission notify the County that there is no objection
as. long as the zone change ~eets the minimum requirements
of the City of Tustin for an E-4 District.
MOTION CARRIED 4-1
1 Abstention-Commissioner Mahoney
II.
OTHER
BUSINESS
1. PENDING APPLICATION:
UP-70-338-PROPERTY RESEARCH MANAGEMENT CORP.
To permit the operation of a pre-school on
the grounds of an apartment pro~ect.
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Location:
South side of Main Street, east of
Williams Street.
Mr. Fleagle stated that it is proposed to lease
the recreation area and establish a nursery school
primarily for the residents within the development.
2. STAFF REPORTS
It was moved by Mr. Mahoney, seconded by Mr. Larnard,
t~h~t by minute or~¥r Jeannine Lindse~ is serving
the Planning Commission as Recording Secretary and
by the officia% designation of such, will have th~
authority to s~gn as Record'ing Secret~ry for the
Minutes.
MOTION CARRIED 6-0
3. CONCERNS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
Mr. Charles Greenwood, Chairman of the
TNT Committee made a progress report to the Commissioners.
He stated that at the City Council meeting, there were
three recommendations set forth:
Improvement of West First Street between
E1 Camino Real and Newport Freeway.
This proposal was studied and recommended
by the Town Center Sub-Committee and was
unanimously approved.
2. Location of Civic Center
The location of the Civic Center near where
it is now might do more good toward re-
vitalizing this area than the property that
was recently purchased over on Main and
Centennial. The Committee suggested that
the administrative offices of the City be
located in the town center area in long
term leased office space, self-sustaining
from a tax revenue posture.
Mr. Greenwood .further stated that acquisition
should be made of the school ground site
bounded by First, "B" and "C" Streets for
development of a park and community building.
The City Council authorized appraisal of
the present Civic Center site to see what
the value was in relation to the purchase
price. The Council also authorized the Staff
to discuss with school board officials the
status of the property next door.
3. General Plan Sub-committee
ao
Goals and objectives for Tustin
General Plan.
b. Implementation of Goals and objectives
The Council is reviewing this recommendation
and from there will be passing their decisio:
onto the Planning Commission for further
oonsider~ion.
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Mr. IIalus stated he would like to have the three
Commissioners who were actively involved in the
Sub-Committees make progress reports so that the
Commissioners could be better acquainted with what
is being done by each committee. Those Commissioners
serving are:
Mr. Larnard, Chairman of Zoning Ordinance
Sub-Committee
Mr. Mahoney, General Plan Sub-Committee
Chairman Webster, Town Center Committee
Mr. Halus also stated that he noticed in the Agenda
of meetings of the Tustin Parks and Recreation
Commission that they are discussing a recommended
approval of a Master Park Plan. He further said that
the Planning Commission was very much interested in
such a plan. It was suggested that Chairman Webster
contact their sister Commission recommending that
the Planning Commission would like to be a party
to and knowledgeable in their recommendations and
have both Commissions make coordinated recommendations
to the City Council.
Chairman Webster replied that he had already had a
meeting with the Parks and Recreation Director and
the Assistant City Administrator regarding the
Master Park Plan. It was resolved with the fact that
Parks and Recreation Commission had discussed the
order of presentation of that document and that they
were committed to present it to the Council for a
reading. The matter will come to the Planning
Commission as you state for public hearing and Chairman
Webster will attend their meeting on March 24, 1970.
ADJOURN-
MENT
It was moved by Mr. Larnard, seconded by Mr. Curtis
that the meeting be adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED 6-0
There being no further business to come before the
Commission, Chairman Webster declared the meeting
closed at 9:32 p. m.
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