HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 11-24-69MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 24, 1969
CALL TO
ORDER
EDGE OF
z~..LEGIANCE
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Halus
at 7:30 P.M.
Led by Commissioner Halus.
III.
ROLL
CALL
Present:
Commissioners:
Curtis, Oster, Larnard,
Mahoney, Ludwig, Webster,
Halus
Absent: NONE
Others Present:
Harry E. Gill, City Administrator
James G. Rourke, City Attorney
James L. Supinger, Planning Director
Jo Ann Turner, Planning Commission
Secretary
IV.
PUBLIC
HEARINGS
1. UP-69-318 - SOCAL PROJECTS INCORPORATED
(Continued from November 10, 1969)
To permit the establishment of a 126 bed Neuro-
Psychiatric Hospital.
Location:
Site fronts approximately 330 feet on the
southwest side of Bryan Avenue and approximately
640 feet on the north side of Main Street,
southeast of Newport.
Mr. Supin~er presented the Staff Report stating
that this was continued from the meeting of November 10,
1969, which gave any interested persons time to learn
more about this type of facility and to visit the
Applicant's similar facility in Brea. He further stated
that the Staff Report remains the same in recommending
conditional approval as set forth in the Staff Report.
Chairman Ilalus opened the public portion of the hearing
at 7:32 p.m.
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Mr. John Siegel, 515 East First Street, Tustin, stated
that with all due respect to the medical profession in
treatment of the mentally disturbed, he was unable to
reconcile the compatability of the use of his property
with that of the proposed mental hospital across the
street. He further stated that he was especially
concerned with the environment and image of the City.
He requested the denial of UP-69-318.
Those verbally opposing were:
Mr. & Mrs. Frank E. Dowler, 1132 Letty Lane
Mrs. Geneviev Kovell, 13441 Elizabeth Lane
Mr. Hubert Walker, 1152 Letty Lane
Mr. More~ Iverson, 1'3'45'2 Cindy Lane
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Chairman Halus declared the public portion of the
meeting closed'at 8:00 p.m.
It was moved by Mr. Oster, seconded by Mrs. Ludwig,
that Application UP-69-318 be denied for the following
~easons:
The Commission finds that the establishment,
maintenance or operation of the use applied for
will, under the circumstances of the particular
case, be detrimental to the health, safety, morals,
comfort and general welfare of the persons residing
or working in the neighborhood of the proposed
use and it will be injurious or detrimental to
property and improvements in the neighborhood or
to the general welfare of the City.
As additional grounds, the minutes and evidence
introduced at the hearing are included by reference
and made a part of the motion.
The Commission felt that this particular piece of property
would be better suited for other purposes due to the
high activity, commercial uses and the Civic Center.
Their feeling was that a professional building or
quality apartments would be more appropriate. It was
also voiced that perhaps a better area could be found
for the use of this application.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
2. V-69-263 - C.T. GILBREATH
To permit a billiard parlor in a commercial complex
with less than the required off-street parking.
Location:
Site is in Jamestown Village Shopping Center
which fronts on E1 Camino Real ("D" Street)
between Main and Sixth Streets.
Mr. Supin~er. presented the Staff Report and stated that
the Staff recommends approval for the following reasons:
It is the opinion of the Planning Department
the required parking, in this area is too
stringent. A more appropriate standard
would be two spaces for each table.
It is very unlikely that there would even
be a need exceeding this standard.
Chairman IIalus opened the public portion of the hearing
at 8:10 p.m.
Mr. Gilbreath concurred with the Staff's recommendation.
Chairman Halus closed the public portion of the hearing
at 8:11 p.m.
It was moved by Mr. Mahoney, seconded by Mr. Larnard
that Resolution No. 1123 be adopted for approval as
outlined by the Staff.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
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3. 'ZC-69-198- SCIIOLZ HOMES, INC. ON BEHALF OF FIRST
WESTERN BANK AND TRUST COMPANY
For rezoning of an 11.1 acre parcel from the E-4
(Estate Residential) District to the PC (Planned
Community) District.
Location:
Northwest corner of intersection of Irvine
Boulevard (Fourth Street and Prospect Avenue).
Jim Supinger presented the Staff Report stating that
{his proposal, as indicated on the specific plans submitted
with the application, proposes two uses on the 11.1
acre parcel:
a. Two (2) three story office buildings fronting .
on Irvine Boulevard with gross floor area
totalling 110,000 square feet. Parking area for
the office would be provided at ground level.
Three (3) three-story apartment buildings on
the northerly approximately 320 feet of the
property. Parking for the apartments would
be provided both in underground garages beneath
each building and at ground level.
He further stated that the General Plan suggests a
continuation of the Professional Office use along Irvine
with Medium Density Residential (4 d.u./acre) use to the
north. The proposed plans show professional offices
along the Irvine frontage with Heavy Density multiple
f~ily (21 d.u./acre) to the north. .The applicants have
not submitted any justification with the application as
to why the General Plan cannot or should not be complied
with.
The Staff was of the opinion that the property could be
developed in accordance with the General Plan. The
only apparent reason that this cannot be done is the
value placed on the land by the property owner. The
anticipated value of the land is not adequate justification
for the zone change.
An alternative to conforming to the General Plan would be
development of the total parcel as professional offices.
Such a proposal would be feasible economically. In
addition, the City's previous experience is that professional
offices are much more compatible neighbors to single
family residences than are apartments.
Denial was recommended.
Chairman Halus opened the public portion of the meeting
at 8:15 p.m.
Those opposing were:
Mr. Ray Mathewson, 17712 Westbury Lane
Mr. James E. Crommit, 17'662 Westbury Lane
Mr. Norman Temple, 17572 WeS~bury Lane
Mr. Jack Zahm'~ 17592 Westbur~ Lane
Mr. Rhodes, 14701 Edin~ton Circle .
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Mr. Crommit stated that in their petition it was
stated that they have no particular objection to
the office buildings along Irvine.
Mr. Temple felt that the Planning Commission had been
~iligent in the past to protect the residents from
spot zoning and hoped that this would continue.
Mr. Zahm voiced his opinion that he would like
to present the safety aspect of the zone change due
to the schools in the area.
Mr. Rhodes suggested that he was concerned with
the underground p~k~.,. ~ilat is proposed with the
application. He stated that it would create a
theft hazard for the automobiles because of the
easy access to the cars without being seen.
Mr. Mathewson summed up the feeling of the entire
group that they were against any change in the E-4
zone with the exception of professional zoning along
Fourth Street.
Mr. Chet Stare, Vice President of Scholz Homes presented
a statement concerning the background,goals and integrity
of the Scholz Homes Company. He also stated some facts
about the proposed plans of the complex to insure the
desirability of a well planned project of this type.
Mr. Jerry Cumming, Landscape Architect for Scholz Homes,
9201 Wilsh~re Boulevard, Beverly Hills, explained how
the landscaping would enhance the City of Tustin with
its park like quality. Also that some of the trees that
exist were to be preserved because of their apparent
beauty and age. He pointed out that the reason for such
elaborate landscaping was to give the residents of the
community the feeling of looking into open fields and
area rather than apartment structures.
Mr. Frank IIarlem, representative of Coldwell Bank,
Santa Ana, made comments regarding zoning. He stated that
the majority of residents wanted a community that had
quality in construction and deyelopments. In addition,
the intent of the developer is very much similar with
that of the residents.
Mr. George Klavell, 13441 Elizabeth Way, stated that the
screening planned with trees a~d hedges was not adequate
as stated.
~r. Norman Strain, stated he was concerned with the water
that would be used after the Eucalyptus trees were
cut. It would eventually leave no screening as the trees
would die with the proposed treatment.
Chairman Halus closed the public portion of the meeting
at 9:30 p.m.
It was moved_by Mr. Oster, seconded by Mr. Larnard that
the proposed project with the offices in front of the
~roperty and the apartments in the back was not in
keeping with the ~lanned community. He recommended to the
City Council that Resolution No. 1124 be adopted reco~endin~
to the Ci.t~ Council, the denial of ZC-69~198 for followin~
reasons:
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The proposed apartment usage (approximately
21 d.u./acre) conflicts with the Tustin Area
General Plan which designates the area north
of the professional office frontage on Irvine
as Medium Density Residential (4 d.u./acre).
Adequate justification has not been given for
amendment of the Tustin Area General Plan.
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Evidence has not been given which would
substantiate that the property could not be
developed as suggested .by the General Plan.
As additional grounds, the minutes and evidence
introduced at the hearing are included by
reference and made a part of the motion.
Mr. Webster stated that he objected, because the full
impact of high density residential is placed up against
the property line of E-4.
Chairman Halus expressed his feeling that even though he.
felt this was a much needed development in the community,
that this was not the site, and there were several
alternatives as a consideration in this location.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
4. UP-69-320 - RED HILL TEXACO
To permit the outside storage and rental of trailers,
camper trailers, medium sized moving vans (or trucks)
and/or motor coaches in conjunction with an existing
service station.
Location:
The southwest co~ner of the intersection of
Red Hill Avenue and Laguna Road, (13931 Red
Hill Avenue)
5~. Supinger stated that the subject service station was
developed prior to adoption of the ordinance requiring the
issuance of a Use Permit for service stations and prior
to the adoption o~ service station site development guide.
Consequently, it is non-conforming use. He presented the
applicants justification stating that because of the
car wash business which also sells gas and the installation
of three new stations just south of the Santa Ana Freeway
on Red Hill that must consider-new sources of revenue if
they are to remain in business.
Mr. Supinger stated that the Staff recommends denial of
UP-69-320 on grounds that the proposed uses could be
detrimental to the area.
Chairman Halus opened the public portion of the hearing
at 10:00 p.m.
Mr. Ray Trazinsky, 12332 Country Lane, a partner in the
business known as Redhill Texaco., felt that the use of
this renting of equipment might supplement their revenue
and also stated he thought his license covered this type
of operation. He further stated that he was notified that
he would have to apply for a Use Permit which he did.
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Chairman IIa].us closed the public portion of the
meeting at 10:10 p.m.
It was moved by Mr. Mahoney, seconded by Mr. Oster
that ap?licatio, n. No. Up-69-320. be condit'ionally
.a.Dproved restricting that not more than 4 trailers and
one motor coach be permitted on the property at one
%ime.
Mr. Mahoney amended the motion to restrict it to
3 flat trailers located on the west end of the
property and one trailer located as a model in front
between the driveways.
MOTION FAILS 4-3
AYES:
NOES:
Curtis, Oster, Mahoney
Larnard, Webster, Ludwig and Halus
5. UP-69-321 BRANCUSI ON BEHALF OF TOM PELFREY
To permit the utilization of an existing non-
conforming structure as a furniture store.
Location:
Site is at the northwest corner of E1 Camino
Real and Second Street.
Chairman Halus opened the public portion of the meeting
at 10:22 p.m.
Those voicing an opinion were Mr. Martin Perfit from
Brancusi and Mr. Bob Hall, 17452 Irvine Boulevard, Tustin.
The applicants did not feel tearing down the garage would
be necessary for they didn't feel the garage was detrimental
to the area.
The Staff felt the two story structure at the rear of the
property should be demolished. A bonus of the removal
of the structure would be that space would be made
available for three parking spaces to the rear of the
main building. The recommended conditions of approval
a re~:
1. That the two story structure on the rear of subject
property be razed and be replaced by paved parking
spaces.
A 2-1/2 gallon pressurized water type fire
extinguisher shall be provided and located near
an exit.
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Unobstructed aisles, 42-inches in width, shall
be established through the storage.
It was movgd by Mr. Webster, seconded by Mr. Larnard that
Resolution No. 1125 be adopted to conditionally approve
UP-~9-321.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
Chairman Halus closed the public portion of the meeting
at 10:25 p.m.
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6.' UP-69-322
IIAROLD L. ADAMS
To permit two single family residences on. one
lot in the R-l(Single Family Residential)
District.
Location:
Lot contains 14,112 sq. ft. and fronts 63 feet
on the west side of Pacific Street approximately
80 feet south of the centerline of Second Street.
Mr. Supin~er presented the Staff Report and Recommendations.
that this application be conditionally approved.
Chairman Halus opened the public portion of the meeting
at 10:32 p.m.
Mr. Harold Adams, 115 West Main Street, stated that his
only comment was that he would co6perate with Tustin
Planning Commission and Development Preview Committee
in any recommendations that the Commission may have.
The public portion of the meeting closed at 10:33 p.m.
It was moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mr. Oster that
Resolution No. 1126 be adopted to conditionally approve
UP-69-322 for the two reasons stated and the three
recommended conditions as follows:
The Commission finds that the establishment,
maintenance and operation of.the use applied
for will not, under the circumstances of the
particular case be detrimental to the health,
safety, morals, comfort and general welfare
of the persons residing or working in the
neighborhood of the proposed use and it will
not be injurious or detrimental to the property
and improvements in the neighborhood or the
general welfare of the city.
As additional grounds, the minutes and evidence
introduced at the hearing are included by
reference and made a part of the motion.
Recommended conditions of a~proval are:
Installation of sidewalk and concrete driveway
approach.
Installation of street ~rees per the Master
Street-Tree Plan.
Approval of Plot Plan and Elevations by the
Department Preview Committee.
MOTION CARRIED 6-1
AYES:
NOES:
Curtis, Oster, Larnard, Webster, Ludwig, Halus
Mahoney
7. UP-69-323, 324, 325, 326 - CITY OF TUSTIN
To permit the location of portable equipment shelters
on the grounds of Helen Estock Elementary School,
Beswick Elementary School, W. R. Nelson Elementary
School and the San Juan Elementary School for a
maximum period of six (6) months.
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It was moved by Mr. Oster, seconded by Mr. Curtis that
UP-69-323, 324, 325, 326 be considered at one time as one
public ~earing.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
Chairman Iialus closed the public portion of the meeting
at 10:36 p.m.
It was moved by Mr. Oster, seconded by Mrs. Ludwig that
a Resolution No.. 1127 be adopted to approve UP-69-323
through 326 for a period of six months.
It was amended by Mr. Mahoney, seconded by Mr. Oster that
Street Trees be put into conform with the General Plan.
Mr. Gill stated that most of the trees were in with the
exceptio'n of San Juan School as the Street is a county street.
Amendment to the motion carried unanimousl~ 7-0
Original motion carried unanimously 7-0
OLD
BUSINESS
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NEW
BUSINESS
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NONE
VIII.
CORRES-
PONDENCE
1. COUNTY CASE - UP-3066 - SAINT PAUL'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH
To permit the construction of a Parish Hall
addition to an existing church facility in the
R-1 (Single-Family Residence) District.
Location:
The northeast side of Wass Street approximately '
236 feet southeast of Elizabeth Way, in the
east Tustin area.
It is recommended by the Staff that you inform the County
that you have no objection in approving this Use Permit.
It was moved b~y Mrs. Ludwig, seconded by Mr. Mahoney
that County Case Up-3066 be approved.
'MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
2. COUNTY CASE - UV-6342 - RALPH F. SMITH
To permit the construction of a two-story duplex
with attached garages on a parcel containing a three
unit residential building with detached garages
in the R-1 (Single-Family Residence) District.
Location:
Southerly corner of Melvin Way and Redhill
Avenue in the east Tustin area.
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Mr. Supinqer presented the Staff Report stating that
the density is five times that of the General Plan and
it is recommended to the County that this application
be denied as it would be an enlargement of an existing
non-conforming use.
It was moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mr. Mahone~
that the Commission advise the County .of"the oppos~on
of this application.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
IX.
OTHER
BUSINESS
NONE
X. It was moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mr. Mahoney
ADJOURN- that the meeting be.adjourned.
MENT
There being no further business before the Commission
Chairman Halus declared the meeting closed at 10:45 p.m.
SECREtlY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
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