HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 02-27-67MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANANING COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 27, 1967
TO
ORDER
ROLL
C.%LL
III.
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IV.
PUBLIC
HF~%RINGS
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OLD
BUSINESS
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NEW
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CORReSPOND-
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MINUTES OF A REGUL'~R M~.ETiNG
TUSTIN PLANNING CO~;ISSION
February 27, 1967
The meeting was called to order at 7:37 P.M. by Chairman Narsters.
Present: Commissioners: Brand, Bacon, Halus, Marsters, Hornet,
Sharp, Oster
%bsent: Commissioners: None
Others Present:
James Rourke, City Attorney
James Supinger, Planning Director
Jo knn Turner, Planning Secretary
pt was moved by. Mr. llefn9r, seconded by 1.1r. Sharp, that tho minutes
of the February 13, 1967 meetin~ be approved as mailed. }lotion carried.
NONE
NONE
NONE
1. POSSIBLE .%MENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO. 157
Review of Zoning Ordinance Provisions re fences in the side
yard on tile. street side of a corner lot and in the rear yard
where such yard abuts tile side line of an adjoining lot.
Mr. Supinger presented the staff report suggesting that the de-
finition of "front-yard" be changed and the ordinance be amended
as follows:
SECTION 11.52 - YARD-FRONT:
A yard extending across the full width of the lot, the depth
of which is measured from the front line of the lot to the
nearest line of the building; provided however, that if any
Official Plan Line has been established for the street upon
which the lot faces, the front yard measurement shall be
taken from such Official Plan Line to the nearest line of
the building.
"(b)
No fence, hedge or wall over three (3) feet in height
shall be erected in the required front yard setback.
No fence, hedgo or wall over three (3) feet in height
shall be constructed in any required rear yard abutting
the front yard of an adjoining lot unless approved, in
writing, by the Planning Department,"
Mr. SupinKer stated to the Co~nission that if this proposal met
with their approval the staff will prepare an ordinance and schedule
a public hearing.
Mr. l~lus asked Mr. Supinger if the definition was changed wouldn't
the problem go away.
Mr. Supinger explained that it would not, because on the street
side yard, no fence over three (3) ft. here ~s permitted.
Hr. t~lus mentioned that it wasn't clear to him what the change says.
Mr. Bacon asked about the corner lot.
Phnning Co~issiou Minutes
February 27, 1967
Mr. Supinser said this is why we are suggesting this, so the
violations will be taken care of.
Mr. Hales said he did not remember ever seeing a rear yard
abutting a front yard.
Mr. Supinser said it rarely happens but it does sometimes.
He went on to say that he thought tho Planning Staff should
handle this because it is a technical matter and should not
come before the Planning Co..aission.
Mr. Hefner opined that he thought the intent of the original
ordinance was to propose a definition like the one proposed
by the Staff for Front Yard but the wording didn't come out
that way.
Mr. Supinser said he would like to see Just one department
work on this.
The Con~ission did not know whether this decision should be
made by the Planning Director or not.
}ir. Supin~er said he had considered that in writing this but
felt that we would not be doing our job if we did not consult
with the Building and Public Works departments, but felt that
the letter should come from one person rather than having 3
department heads signing it and stated again that the other
departments should be consulted.
Mr. Oster asked if this has gone to the City Attorney or were
there ~ny other comments on this. }ir. Suptmger said Mr. Rourke
h~s not received this and this was brought out for the consider-
ation of the Planning Co.m~ission.
Mr. Oster said that he had no objections to giving the initial
responsibility to the Planning Department~ but stated that if
you deny it for s~ne reason, the interested party should be
allowe~ a public hearing for a decision to be made on it in
the event that it is denied.
Mr. Oster asked if this was a real problem and were there fences
being constructed now that was causing this.
Mr. Suptn~er replied that ~ere were many fences up now, and there
was no real problem now but in the event that there was, he felt
this was needed.
It was moved by. Mr. Oster, seconded b~ Hr. Brand that the Plan-
nin~ Staff be directed tO prepare a d~aft for an ordina~ce wit~
the City jttorney, 3nd schedule, a public hearing.
Motion carried 7-0.
2. COUNTY TENT\TIVE M~P - TRACT 6082
Adjacent to and north of Treehaven Apartments
}ir. Supinger gave a brief report and presented the ~p for
the Commission to review. The Public Works Department rec-
ommended that the parkway widths be maintained at ton (10)
feet on all streets.
Mr. H~lus felt that because it is contiguous to the City and
the Seventeenth and Holt anne~ation, it should incorporate
standards of the city policy and specifically the underground
public utilities and the street tree policy.
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Plannin$ C~..,,lssion Minutes
February 27, 1967
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OTIi~
RUSINES$
IX.
ADJOURN-
It was moved by Mr. I~lus, seconded bX }ir. Brand that
approval for County Tract ¥~ap 6082 be recommended with
the followin~ conditions:
1. That ten (10) ft. parkways be maintained along
all streets within the subdivision.
2. ~at utility lines and related appurtenances be
placed underground.
3. That street trees be planted in all parkways.
Mr. IIefner said that the County already has an ordinance re-
quiring Underground Utilities and we should not be ignorant
of it. If they do have this requirement already, he did not
think it should be stated in the letter to the County.
Mr. Halus disagreed with Mr. Hefner and felt it should be
included.
The above motion was voted by Roll Call: Ayes: Oster, Sharp
Hefner, Marsters, ~lus, Bacon, Brand. Noes: None. ~i3t_.i.qq
carried 7-0.
NONE
was moved by }ir. Sharp, seconded by Mr. Hefner that
meetin~ be adiourned. Motion carried.
There being no other business before the Planning C~,l$~.i.'. ,
the meeting adjourned at 8:07 P.M.
SI~CRETARY
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MINUTES OF A REGULAR }~ETING
TUSTIN PL%NNING CO}~ISSION
March 13, 1967
CALL
TO
ORDER
II.
ROLL
CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:36 P.M. by Chairman
Marsters.
Present: Commissioners: Brand, Bacon, Halus, Marsters, Hefner,
Sharp, Oster
~bsent: Commissioners: None
Others Present:
James Rourke, City Attorney
James Supinger, Planning Director
Jo Ann Turner, Planning Secretary
III.
~PPROVAL
OF
MINUTES
IV.
PUBLIC
HEARINGS
It was moved by Mr. Hefner, seconded by Mr. Sharp~ that the minutes
of the February 27, .1967 meeting be approved as mailed.
Motion carried.
1. UP-67-226 - Robert A. Schoeffler
To permit the construction of a 38 uni~ motel on property
located in a "U" (Unclassified) district.
Mr..~upinger presented the staff report and recommendations. The
staff felt that the request seemed reasonable as a good transitional
use between the commercial use along Newport and the single family
and apartment uses behind the property along Wass Street. It was
suggested that no kitchens be permitted in the motel, except in the
managers apartment, because of the ease of conversion to apartments.
Should such conversion take place, the density and parking require-
ments of the ordinance would not be met.
The Tustin Fire Department's recommendations were as follows:
1. All driveways should connect to the driveway in the rear to
make all apartments more accessible for fire and rescue work.
2. Provide a minimum of 13 feet five inches (13'5") clearance
over the driveway for access of truck companies,
3. Provide additional five foot (5') radius for turning fire
trucks at driveway--rear of building. (northwest corner).
The_praq~e County Planning Commission recommended denial of UP-67-226
for the construction of the motel on Wass Street. They did not feel
that a motel would be compatible to adjacent county zoning or land
use. They felt that a large motel would also tend to encourage further
commercial developments northerly along Newport Ave.
Correspondence from Mrs. H. H. Blqnken, 1062 S. E. Wass Street, Albert
Ne~lander, 12762 Elizabeth Way, Mr. Charles B..Hill, Hil-Gan Develop-
ment Corporation, Mr. and Mrs. Charles A. Hill, 105l S.E. Wass Street,
Elmer & Josephine Farnsworth, 1091S.E. Wass Ave., and Mr. Charles
Raymond, 1081Wass Street, Tustin was received in the Planning
Department wishing to go on record as opposing this application.
Copies of these letters ware presented to the Co,~ission for their
review.
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