HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC MINUTES 1988 04 18MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA
APRIL 18, 1988
I. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Hoesterey at 7:01 p.m. in the
City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way. The Pledge of Allegiance was
led by Councilman Prescott, and the Invocation was given by Mayor
Hoesterey.
.-- II. ROLL CALL
Councilpersons Present: Ronald B. Hoesterey, Mayor
Ursula E. Kennedy, Mayor Pro Tem
Richard B. Edgar
John Kelly
Earl J. Prescott
Councilpersons Absent: None
Others Present: William A. Huston, City Manager
James G. Rourke, City Attorney
Mary E. Wynn, City Clerk
Christine Shingleton, Dir. of Comm. Development
Fred Wakefield, Police Captain
Robert Ledendecker, Director of Public Works
Royleen White, Dir. of Comm. & Adm. Services
Ronald A. Nault, Finance Director
Valerie Whiteman, Deputy City Clerk
Susan Jones, Recreation Superintendent
Approximately 40 in the audience
III. PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. UNDERGROUND UTILITY DISTRICT NO. 10 FOR NEWPORT/MCFADDEN AVENUES
Robert Ledendecker, Director of Public Works, gave a staff report
indicating that a second Public Hearing was set to reconsider the
source of funding for the three properties in Underground Utility
District No. 10. The original engineer's report previously
suggested that private property service conversions be funded by the
Redevelopment Agency. At the first Public Hearing, the Council
requested that other methods of funding be explored. The second
Public Hearing would allow property owners to voice their opinions
on the potential change in funding.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:06 p.m.
Roger O'Dell, 17341 McFadden Street, spoke on behalf of his mother,
Wanda O'Dell, who had written a letter to the Council. She felt
that Pacific Bell should provide the funding, rather than someone on
Social Security. At Mayor Hoesterey's suggestion, Mr. O'Dell agreed
that his mother's letter would become part of the public record.
There were no additional speakers on the matter and the Public
Hearing was closed at 7:08 p.m.
Mayor Hoesterey asked Mr. O'Dell if it would be easier for his
mother to have the assessment placed on the property to become due
when the property was sold. Difficulty could arise from expenditure
of City funds on private property.
Councilwoman Kennedy explained that property values increase when
undergrounding projects are implemented. If the assessment was done
when the property was sold, Mrs. O'Dell would not be impacted
because the increase in property value would hopefully offset the
charge.
Robert Ledendecker indicated that this item did not have to be
finalized at this meeting. It could be continued at another meeting
and Mr. O'Dell could consult with his mother regarding her wishes.
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Councilman Prescott asked if the telephone service was from a
utility pole located on McFadden and was there a utility pole at the
rear of the property that could be used.
Robert Ledendecker will investigate this possibility and report back
to the Council.
The Public Hearing was closed at 7:13 p.m.
It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Kelly, to continue this matter
to the May 2, 1988, meeting. The motion carried 5-0. 104
2. APPEAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION DENIAL OF VARIANCE 88-2 (HOME FEDERAL
MONUMENT SIGN)
Christine Shingleton reported that the Planning Commission, on March
21, 1988, denied a request by Home Federal for a 12 sq.ft. tenant
identification sign at the corner of Irvine Blvd. and Holt Ave. The
Planning Commission denied the request based on the following: (1)
proposed variance did not meet the required conditions of State law
and local City code, (2) that special consideration had already been
granted to allow Home Federal more sign area than is typically
allowed by sign codes and (3) granting of the variance could result
in adverse effects in the immediate area by creating a precedent.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:16 p.m.
Tom Hunter, 625 Broadway, San Diego, representing Home Federal,
stated that the company's need was to identify the property for
traffic on Irvine Blvd. traveling from east to west. Home Federal
realizes they are over the maximum allowed for signs. When teller
machines became popular, Home Federal requested that Any Time Teller
be added to their already existing sign and that request put them
over the maximum. Mr. Hunter said that both the owner as well as
the tenants had agreed to identify the building as the Home Federal
Building.
Mayor Hoesterey asked staff if this was a building identification
sign versus a tenant identification sign would Home Federal be
within the limits.
Christine Shingleton indicated that tenant signs cannot be used on
the center identification sign.
Mayor Hoesterey stated that generally in the granting of a variance
it is due to some particular hardship that can be exhibited and was
this the case with Home Federal.
Mr. Hunter responded that immediate identification of the building
would assist their elderly customers from a traffic standpoint.
Curt Bower, speaking as a consultant for Home Federal, stated that
when the exception was granted on building signage, the Planning
Department recognized that although it is a multi -tenant building
with professional uses, that a savings and loan would have special
needs. He felt that by contrast to other surrounding financial
institutions, Home Federal's sign was modest. The special
circumstances exist because it is not primarily a professional _
office building but has heavy commercial use as well.
Mayor Hoesterey asked if it would be acceptable to Home Federal to
have the sign exclude the company logo.
Mr. Bower stated that if the word "building" had to be added they
preferred that the logo remain.
No one else wished to speak and the Public Hearing was closed at
7:25 p.m.
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Councilwoman Kennedy stated the Council had done a good job in the past
to make Tustin a beautiful city by restraining uses of signs. As a
result, the City attracts business and is financially successful. Home
Federal had chosen to go into a professionally zoned building and now,
in addition to the previously allowed exception, is requesting to also
have the advantage of a commercial sign. This will become a precedent
and other tenants in professional buildings will want the same
consideration. If a company wants commercial signing, they should be in
a commercial zone.
It was moved b Kenned , seconded b Hoestere , to adopt Resolution No.
88-38(b , upholding the Planning Commissions denial.
Councilman Edgar spoke in opposition to the motion. He shared Council-
woman Kennedy's dialogue, however, the building is already surrounded by
businesses with monument signs and the only difference is, one area is
zoned for professional and the other is zoned for commercial. He felt
that every tenant has the right to be identified and it would be
appropriate for a small, discreet monument sign. He would support
Resolution No. 88-38(a).
Councilman Kelly spoke in opposition to the motion feeling that the
applicant's request was modest and he was upset with the attitude
towards signs displayed by some Council members.
Mayor Hoesterey was concerned that three-quarters of the sign was logo
and felt the sign was for attracting new customers in the area. He
suggested scaling the sign down with a smaller logo to bring it into
accordance with the ordinance. He added that professional zoning
increases the value of property.
A substitute motion was made by Edgar, seconded by Ke11,K, to approve
Resolution No. 88-38(a), reversing the Planning Commission s denial.
Mayor Hoesterey stated that as long as the conditions are for this
particular site for these particular reasons and there is a waiver of
the building sign that would be part of the record, he would be in favor
of the substitute motion.
The substitute motion carried 4-1, Kennedy opposed. 106
IV. PUBLIC INPUT
1. ANNEXATIONS NO. 144 AND 145
The following extended their appreciation to Mr. Joseph Herzig for
his work regarding Annexations No. 144 and 145:
Elva Woodland, 13132 Fairmont Way, Tustin
Harvey Rolf, 17711 Laurie Lane, Santa Ana
Mr. Joe Herzig asked Council if any action on Annexations 144 and
145 had been taken since April 4, 1988. Mayor Hoesterey said there
had not. 24
2. LAUREL HOUSE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS
Sarah Schweitz, 13611 Fairmont Way, spoke on behalf of residents on
Fairmont Way, Carol Way and Laurie Lane regarding the safety in
their neighborhood and the large density of State facilities that
are within one block of each other. These facilities include Laurel
House, a shelter for runaway teenagers on Fairmont way; a board -and -
care facility on Laurie Lane; a halfway house for alcohol and drug
rehabilitation on Yorba; and Yorba House No. 4. She submitted a
petition to the Council requesting their intervention with the
proper authorities to revoke the Laurel House license. The
residents were concerned about safety for their children and the
declining property values in their neighborhood.
Mayor Hoesterey stated that the State had usurped the City's
authority in this area and advised her to contact her State
Senators. 81
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3. GODFATHER BAR ON FIRST STREET
Joseph Neglia, 12578 Wedgwood Circle, representing John Siegel and
the residents of Pickwick Manor Apartments, spoke about the
disturbance caused on the weekends by the Godfather Bar.
Approximately 17 complaints had been received by the Police
Department, six of those complaints were for disturbing the peace.
He asked the Council if it was possible to declare the back door
available for emergency use only. —
Mayor Hoesterey asked that the Police Department check on the
matter and report back to the Council. 81
4. GO-KART RACES
Jim Kinder, of Championship Kart Racing Assn., stated his need to
have specific direction from the Council regarding the amount of
liability insurance required.
William Huston, City Manager, stated that $10 million was the
requirement and the Council had approved that amount. If Mr. Kinder
made application for that amount and was unable to obtain it, the
City's underwriters would assist him.
Mayor Hoesterey asked Mr. Kinder to apply for $10 million worth of
insurance and report back to the Council the results of his
application.
Councilman Prescott expressed concern about having an accommodative
attitude to insure that the event goes forward.
Councilman Kelly voiced his concern about what was adequate
insurance and gave the Chili Cookoff as an example of an event
involving alcohol that did not require this amount of coverage.
Mr. Kinder expressed his frustation with obtaining this amount of
insurance and working within this "red tape".
Councilwoman Kennedy stated her support of the event, but stated
that the City must be financially protected.
After further discussion, Mr. Kinder agreed to try and obtain $10
million of liability insurance and report his findings to the
Council at the next meeting. 96.1
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
Item 10 was pulled from the Consent Calendar by Councilman Kelly and
Item 11 was pulled by City Manager Huston. It was moved by Kennedy,
seconded by Kelly, to approve the remainder of the Consent Calendar.
The motion carried 5-0.
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - APRIL 4, 1988, REGULAR MEETING
2. APPROVAL OF DEMANDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,352,782.64
RATIFICATION OF PAYROLL IN THE AMOUNT OF $190,051.89 50
3. RESOLUTION NO. 88-39 -A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TUSTIN APPROVING FINAL VESTING MAP NO. 13094.
Adopted Resolution No. 88-39 as recommended by the Community
Development Department. 99
4. EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT REQUEST
Authorized solicitation of proposals for replacement of
equipment authorized in the 1987-88 Fiscal Budget as
recommended by the Public Works Department/Field Services. 86
5. NEW EQUIPMENT REQUEST
Authorized solicitation of proposals for new equipment
authorized in the 1987-88 Fiscal Budget as recommended by the
Public Works Department/Field Services. 86
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6. RESOLUTION 140. 88-40 - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TUSTIN REQUESTING THE ORANGE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION TO
INCLUDE WITHIN THE FEDERAL AID URBAN PROGRAM THE IMPROVEMENT OF
JAMBOREE ROAD.
Adopted Resolution No. 88-40 as recommended by the Public Works
Department/Engineering Division. 95
7. RESOLUTION NO. 88-41 - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TUSTIN REQUESTING THE ORANGE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION TO
INCLUDE WITHIN THE OCUTT PROGRAM THE IMPROVEMENT OF MAIN STREET
(PHASE III).
Adopted Resolution No. 88-41 as recommended by the Public Works
Department/Engineering Division. 95
8. RESOLUTION NO. 88-42 - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TUSTIN APPROVING PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF EL
CAMINO REAL FROM MYFORD ROAD TO JAMBOREE ROAD AND AUTHORIZING
ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS.
Adopted Resolution No. 88-42 as recommended by the Public Works
Department/Engineering Division. 95
9. RESOLUTION NO. 88-43 - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF TUSTIN ACCEPTING WORKS OF IMPROVEMENT AND AUTHORIZING
RECORDATION OF NOTICE OF COMPLETION FOR INSTALLATION OF STREET
LIGHT CONDUIT ON "C" STREET FROM MAIN STREET TO THIRD STREET
Adopted Resolution No. 88-43 as recommended by the Public Works
Department/Engineering Division. 63
Consent Calendar Item No. 10 - Marked Unit Replacement
Councilman Kelly felt that the marked police units should go out for
bid.
City Manager Huston said that under City Code and Resolution the city
is authorized to accept the bid of another agency that bids out police
cars. This type of bidding enables the city to bid at a much higher
unit count. Instead of bidding on 4 cars, the same agency may be
bidding on 200-300 cars allowing the City to receive a much lower price
for police vehicles.
It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, to adopt the following:
10. MARKED UNIT REPLACEMENT
Authorized purchase of four (4) new marked police units at a
cost of $12,778.68 each, for a $51,114.73 total, from Morris
J. Sopp and Son, 5801 Pacific Blvd., Huntington Park,
California, as recommended by the Police Department.
The motion carried 5-0.
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Consent Calendar Item No. 11, Police Motorcycle Replacement - At the
request of City Manager Huston, this item was removed from the Consent
Calendar and no action was taken. 82
VI. ORDINANCES FOR INTRODUCTION - None
VII. ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION
1. CHANGE STARTING TIME OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS - ORDINANCE
NO. 1006
Ordinance No. 1006 had first reading by title only and introduction
on April 4, 1988, following a public hearing on the matter.
It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, that Ordinance No. 1006
have second reading by title only. The motion carried 5-0.
Following second reading by title only of Ordinance No. 1006 by the
City Clerk, it was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, that
Ordinance No. 1006 be passed and adopted as follows:
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ORDINANCE N0. 1006 - AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF TUSTIN, AMENDING SECTION 1515 OF CHAPTER 5, ARTICLE 1,
OF THE TUSTIN MUNICIPAL CODE, CHANGING THE STARTING TIME OF
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
The motion carried 5-0. (Roll call vote) 80
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
1. JWA NOISE MEASUREMENT PROGRAM - UPDATE
It was moved by Kelly, seconded by Kennedy, to receive and file
subject report. The motion carried 5-0. 101
2. APPROVAL OF CONSULTANT SERVICES FOR PREPARATION OF CULTURAL
RESOURCES INVENTORY OF CITY
Councilman Prescott requested that Carol Jordan, of the Historical
Society, participate in the preparation of the Cultural Resources
Inventory. No action was taken. 109
IX. NEW BUSINESS
1. AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR WATER MAIN IMPROVEMENTS ON EDINGER AVENUE,
WINDSOR LANE, CATALINA DRIVE, DEL REY DRIVE, AND LA BELLA DRIVE
It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kelly, to award the contract for
subject project to Coast Pipeline Corporation of Laguna Hills,
California, in the amount of $163.011.61 as recommended by the
Public Works Department/Engineering Division. The motion carried
55=0• 107
2. COLUMBUS TUSTIN DRAINAGE STUDY
It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kennedy to appropriate $1,500
for the Storm Drain Study of Columbus Tustin Park as recommended by
the Community Services Department.
Councilman Edgar complimented the staff on a job well done. He was
amazed at the minimal cost for completion. He asked staff what the
timeline was for completion.
Susan Jones, Recreation Superintendent, estimated it would be a
month to a month and one-half.
Councilman Prescott stated that he was anxious to have the report
the first meeting in June so that some of the plans for Columbus
Tustin Park could be finalized.
The motion carried 5-0.
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3. AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR TRAFFIC SIGNAL MODIFICIATIONS AT WALNUT
& CHERRYWOOD LANE
It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, to (1) award a contract
to Baxter -Griffin Company in the amount of $9,350 and (2) approve
an additional appropriation of $2,000 from the General Fund as
recommended by the Public Works Department/Engineering Division.
The motion carried 5-0. 94
4. PARK ADVISORY COMMISSION
It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kennedy, to adopt the following:
(1) That the Commission have seven (7) members, all Tustin
residents.
(2) That the Commission be an advisory body to the City Council in
all matters relating to policy in the areas of park design,
development and recreation.
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(3) That the Commission serve at the pleasure of the City Council,
and be named the Community Services Commission.
(4) That the Commission meet as often as is necessary to carry out
its responsibility, but a minimum of once each quarter in
regular session.
(5) That the Commission be compensated for attendance at Commission
meetings and that Council set compensation at $25.00 per
meeting.
(6) That the City Council meet with the Commission at least once per
year to give the Commission direction regarding Council policy
as recommended by the Community Services Department.
Councilman Edgar's motion was made stipulating the following
changes to the original staff recommendation: (1) number of
members be changed from five to seven, (2) area of
responsibility to include recreation and (3) compensation be set
at $25.00 per meeting. Selection of members would be through
interview process.
Councilwoman Kennedy asked about the possibility of selection by
district.
Councilman Edgar stated that he was supportive of that, but did
not want to restrict the selection process by initially
establishing that criteria. He was very supportive of selecting
applicants that represent different areas.
Mayor Hoesterey stated that he still felt an Ad Hoc Committee
would better serve the City. He felt a Commission would
increasingly grow and require staff time when there were not
specific needs to be addressed. In addition, some members in
certain residential areas may not be interested in parks from
other areas of the City.
Councilman Kelly felt that the concern about districting was
nonsense and politically motivated.
Councilman Edgar stated he was against formalized districting
of the Commission. The opportunity for area representation will
be available to the Council during the selection process.
The motion carried 4-1, Hoesterey opposed. 76
5. EASTERN TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
NO. 451
Robert Ledendecker gave staff report asking Council to review a
response letter on a Draft Environmental Impact Report that is due
back to the County on April 21, 1988.
It was moved by Edgar, secondedby, Kennedy, to approve the City's
concerns/comments for the Eastern Transportation Corridor and
authorize Staff to forward these comments to the County of Orange by
the response deadline date of April 21, 1988. The motion carried
5-0.
Councilman Edgar commended the staff for their professional job in
reaching the consensus required for a Tustin, Orange and Irvine
Memorandum of Understanding. Staff comments on this memorandum were
included with the subject report and Council will receive the
memorandum for action on May 2, 1988. 101
REPORTS
1. PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION AGENDA - APRIL 11, 1988
It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kelly, to ratify the Planning
Commission Action Agenda of April 11, 1988. The motion carried 5-0.
2. CITY ENTRANCE SIGN PROGRAM STATUS
Christine Shingleton gave a status report on the designing of the
monument entrance signs to the City. Staff is now refining the
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schematics before starting on the working drawings. She asked for
comments from the Council.
Councilman Kelly voiced his approval of maintaining heritage with
the "Wishing Well" theme.
Councilman Prescott suggested that a subcommittee be formed and he
volunteered to serve on the subcommittee.
Councilwoman Kennedy also volunteered to serve.
It was moved by Hoesterey, seconded by Kelly, to appoint Councilman
Prescott and Councilwoman Kennedy to serve on the subcommittee for
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this matter. The motion carried 5-0.
3. INVESTMENT SCHEDULE AS OF MARCH 31, 1988
It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kelly, to receive and file
subject report. The motion carried 5-0. 50
4. UPDATED REPORT ON REQUEST FOR ENGINEERING STUDY AT THE INTERSECTION
OF EL CAMINO REAL AND SIXTH STREET
It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Kelly, that the existing red
curb on all intersection approaches should remain as is, however,
forty (40) feet of existing red curb on the south side of Sixth
Street (east of E1 Camino Real) can be eliminated. The motion
carried 5-0. 92
XI. OTHER BUSINESS
1. COMMENTS IN THE "COMMON TALK° NEWSPAPER
Councilman Kelly commented on article in the Common Talk regarding
some of his recent comments. He wanted to exercise his right to
speak and asked that those who editorialized about the Council, pay
attention during the meetings. He also asked that they refrain from
smoking in the Council Chambers.
2. STEVEN'S SQUARE PARKING STRUCTURE
Councilman Kelly asked for an update on the action that has been
taken on the Steven's Square Parking Structure.
City Manager Huston responded that the City, in accordance with
Council direction, will erect additional signage giving direction to
the structure and change the "CUSTOMER PARKING" signs to "PUBLIC
PARKING" signs. The City will defer action on the ramp.
Councilman Prescott felt that the "CUSTOMER PARKING" signs should be
removed. He was also informed by Mr. Cox that the signs citing
Civil Code No. 22658(a) only applies to private parking structures,
not public ones.
Christine Shingleton stated that it is considered a private
structure maintained by a private association. The Redevelopment
Agency has an interest in 105 spaces of the 247 spaces in the
structure. A letter from staff has been sent to the Steven's Square
Association requesting that the signs be modified to read "PUBLIC
PARKING". Staff will report back to the Council on the results of
that letter. 74
3. LIABILITY INSURANCE
Councilwoman Kennedy thanked City Manager Huston and Ronald Nault,
Finance Director, for their guidance to the Council in establishing
participation in a risk sharing pool.
Councilwoman Kennedy also asked staff for a confirmed report
requiring the $10 million liability insurance for the go-kart ,races.
She did not want Mr. Kinder to withdraw without proper documentation
for the $10 million quote. 59
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4. PETER'S CANYON REGIONAL PARK
Councilwoman Kennedy asked for a staff report on the Peter's Canyon
Regional Park. She wanted to insure that the City does not lose
development money from the Irvine Company. 79
5. COALITION NO. 95 - PROTECTION OF COAST LINE
Councilman Kennedy asked the Council to appoint her to Coalition
95. This matter is to be agendized for the May 2, 1988, meeting.
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6. UTILITY POLES AT NEWPORT AVENUE/HOLT AVENUE
Councilman Edgar was pleased to see all of the utility poles downat
the corner of Newport and Holt Avenues.
7. WISHING WELL ON FIRST STREET
Councilman Prescott had noted that the tiles on the Wishing Well in
front of Marie Callendini's were falling off and requested that the
Maintenance Department make the necessary repairs.
8. SCHEDULING OF BUDGET WORKSHOPS
Councilman Prescott asked when the budget workshops were scheduled.
City Manager Huston stated that the budget workshop is targeted for
the end of May. He recommended agendizing the setting of the exact
date at the May 2, 1988, meeting. 29
9. POSTING OF CAMPAIGN BANNERS/POSTERS
Councilman Prescott asked if an accelerated approval could be
granted allowing Councilman Kelly to keep his campaign banners in
place.
Mayor Hoesterey pointed out that the law applies to everyone and all
citizens have to comply with the sign codes.
Councilwoman Kennedy asked City Attorney Rourke to check on the
political sign ordinance and report back to the Council. 93
XII. RECESS - REDEVELOPMENT - ADJOURNMENT
At 9:01 p.m., it was moved by Hoesterey, seconded by Edgar, to recess to
the Redevelopment Agency; thence to the Capital Improvement Workshop on
Thursday, April 21, 1988, at 5:30 p.m., in the City Manager's Conference
Room; and thence adjourn to the next Regular Meeting on Monday, May 2,
1988, at 7:00 p.m. The motion carried 5-0.
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