HomeMy WebLinkAboutNB 2 PEDES ACCESS 07-19-93NEW BUSINESS NO. 2
7-19-93
DATE:
JULY 19, 1993
TO'
'FROM:
SUBJECT:
WILLIAM A. HUSTON, CITY MANAGER
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT/ENGINEERING DIVISION
CITIZEN CONCERNS - SYCAMORE AVENUE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS BETWEEN
PEPPERTREE AND TUSTIN MEADOWS DEVELOPMENTS
RECOMMENDATIONS:
It is recommended that the City Council, at their meeting of July
19, 1993, authorize Engineering Division staff to prepare a study
investigating citizen concerns relating to the existing pedestrian
access on Sycamore Avenue ~between Peppertree and Tustin Meadows
developments.
FISCAL IMPACTS:
It is~estimated that the study will cost approximately $4,500.00.
This will include City staff time as well as support service from
the City's Traffic Engineering Consultant. These funds can be
absorbed in part within the Engineering Division budget, which has
funds for these types of studies, and also in the Engineering
Division budget for Engineering Consultant Services.
BACKGROUND:
The City has recently received the attached letters from residents'
living in the Tustin Meadows and Peppertree development areas
expressing concern with the pedestrian walkway along Sycamore
Avenue between the Peppertree and Tustin Meadows developments.
Copies of these letters, as well as an exhibit showing the location
of the subject pedestrian walkway are attached for your
information.
DISCUSSION:
Due to the recent concerns expressed by residents in the area of
the Sycamore Avenue pedestrian walkway, staff is recommending that
a study be prepared to investigate and analyze these concerns and
identify any feasible modifications in the study area to alleviate
these concerns.
Upon direction from the City Council, staff will begin preparation
of the study, which will be brought back to the Council for
consideration when completed.
Robert,.,c'. ;Ledendecker
Public Works Director/City Engineer
DoUglas --R. Anderson
Transportation Engineer
RS,_: DA:pcdway
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Mr. ~o~ Ledendecker~ City Enginee~
City Of Tustin
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~ Del Amo
Tustin, CA 92680
Dear Bob'
! just wanted to confirm our brief telephone conversation of this past week
regarding the possible disposition of the pedestrian crossing on Alder and
Sycamore joining the Peppertree and Tustin Meadows developments. Without
re-hashing the statements made by my neighbor on the Tustin Meadows side,
Mr. George Simon, and the ecxcel!ent follow-up letter written to you by
the TMHOA President. /aa word ~ R A V 0 for their comments
suggestions! They have basically confirmed and expanded upon prior
correspondence that I have written to the City during the last fifteen
years that I have lived at 14711 Alder Lane.
The pedestrian crossing in questicn has produced everything from the minor
inconveniences of noise, liter, necking, etc. to far more serious
situations like findin? empty liquor containers, used drug paraphernalia,
-~---ncgraphy, broken glass ~ottles~ and it simply goes on and eh.
This s;tuat~on runs in ~vcles and s~em= tc =low down in the Win+~r month=
~nd accelerate dramatically during the Summer months to ALMOST unbearable
~evel for Mr. Simon, my neighbors Mr.& Mrs. Ralph Fellick (they live on the
~oposi~e ~n,-t~,-a~ 1474~ ~1~=~ z,-.~ ~v :- ' ~s a r ent example, .
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.... ~_ ~-a._ se~ on the Tu=ti~ Meadows =ide.
~g=in, ,he area attracts p'-~lems =_...,= a h~g= magnet'
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do net believe that clos~,n9 the _-ede.=_trian c..-_?.._~nc _
-'~.~ldrer.... .. [,: ............ Pepp6rt,"¢-~ ~-'~_~,;~. ~:se ~w~.. c~-~={,-.~. ...... ~ .-.~ ........ the;~' way to coho
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..:~ I ~.~nk changing ~he 'oca+~~.~ ~ ~.=
- . za.e is = sa~factcry so
.'.~ ~-.ar pre-o~tly ~ %hat a c~,:~? -~,-,e a ~,i%'= or skateboard wj~=
'njuref. ~d;ng dcwn our si,o~.~a~'- : '~de _
....... ~.. an._., onto ~.. r lane.' Th[s
',= comFt~'n.~=d ~¢ ~]~e gate w~,'~ mo' == ~c ~-,= cen%e~ o~ ~he =~
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3) Opening Sycamore will allow the Tustin Police Departmer. t to more
sily patrol this area. Check the Police records of how mnany times per
they respond to calls from Mr. Simon, Mr. Fellick, or myself .... it's a
stly proposition tc the City in it's present configuration and
tentially gives you tremendous finacial liability..
4) Opening Sycamore will allow immediate access from eithez- Tustin
'~dows or Peppertree for fire or other emergency equipment.
5} Opening Sycamore will eliminate the costs incurred by the City and
:ine company in terms of weed abatement and other maintenance..
6) Opening Sycamore and putting in a maintained street will eliminate
~orrible eyesore that has been created in our developments.
7) Putting ga four way stop sign on Alder Lane and Sycamore--gives
rorists a genuine reason to make a full stop on the corners of Alder Lane
Sycamore. At present most motorists simply ignore the three way stop
~ause they see no reason to stop at a street that has no through traffic.
8) Open. lng Sycamore will make the traffic flow much smoother between
~tin Meadows and Peppertree. In the pas~ Tustin Meadows and Peppertree
'e been opposed to the opening of Sycamore because we feared dramatically
:teased traffic coming off Redhill. With the opening of Tustin Ranch
~d~and Jamboree I believe these fears are unfcunded.
If opened, I would like
roaches Pepperiree and T.M. be restricted to 2~ MPH en th~s part of
-am. or~ Id_--a~v I would l~ke tc ~=e speed bumps draq~nage dip~ or
er means of ~!owing traffic on this short cerridor apprcach~ng Alder
.e. If th~z ~s no% ?tactical I would like fo see highly v~sible periodic
~ic control_ +.v... tee
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If you have any. questions on the above please feel free tc contact my at my
business (714) 474-3070 or at my home 669-9877. I would appreciate anl' and
zll help you can give us in eliminating this most frustrating situation.
LET'S PUT SYC~AMORE THROUGH'.! !:'.:'.
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cc.' Ra pl h & De~,BIE Fellick 14741 Alder Lane
Carl Kaselek, President PHOA
Council MemDers.',/
Tom Sattarelli
3eft Thomas
Chuck Puckett
Leslie Pontious
3im Ports, Mayor
Chris Shingleton, Drtr. Community Development
tustln
P.O. Box 491, Turn, California 92680
June 11, 1993
t TUSTIN PUBLIC WORKS DEPT.
Mr. Robert S. Ledendecker
Director of Public Works
City of Tustin
15222 Del Amo Ave.
Tustin, Ca. 92680
Reference: Pedestrian Walkway - East Sycamore
Dear Mr. Ledendecker:
I am writing you on behalf of the Tustin Meadows Community Association regarding
our concern over the pedestrian walkway between East Sycamore and Alder Lane that
connects Tustin Meadows with Peppertree. As you know, this walkway has caused
concern over the past thirteen years that it has been open. The problems, however,
have escalated beyond that of noisy children walking to and from school. We are
now seeing more criminal-related activity in this area, especially in the late
night and early morning hours.
This issue was discussed at our Board of Directors meeting on June 8, 1993 with
homeowner George Simon. His home is located at the end of the walkway adjacent
to Sycamore. One action we will be taking is closing the access pass-through
from Foxcroft to Sycamore. This pass-through is being used as an escape route
from the police. With this closing there will be no open walks through to any
streets adjacent to Sycamore. This will be closed within a month.
We would like to recommend the following suggestions as ~ctJ.on the City can take
to improve this situation:
1. Close off this walkway completely between Sycamore and Alder. The walkway
is there omly as a convenience and is not necessary. The amount of
trouble caused by this walkway in addition to the cost of police calls
to this area warrants its closing.
2. In lieu of closing the walkway completely, the City could reroute the
walkway to the center of Sycamore sc that people would not be passing
in such close proximity to the Simon residence.
Continued .....
Mr. Robert S. Ledendecker
June 11, 1993
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3. Open Sycamore completely. At this time there are mixed feelings as to
the complete opening of Sycamore through to Alder. Although this would
solve the problems associated with having a dead-end-street, we would be
concerned about the possible increase in traffic. This solution needs to
be studied further, including discussions with Peppertre~.
We are looking forward to your prompt response to this matter. You are invited to
attend our next Board of Directors meeting which will be held on Tuesday, July 13,
1993, at 7:30 P.M. at our West Clubhouse, 14702 Devonshire, Tustin, Ca.
Sincerely.
Robert Quinn, President
Tustin Meadows Community Association
cc: Tustin City Council: Jim Ports, Mayor
Thomas Saltarelli, Mayor Pro Tem
Jeffrey Thomas
Leslie Anne Pontious
Charles Puckett
Police Chief W. Douglas Franks
Carl Kasalek, President, Peppertree Homeowners Assn.
Guido Borges, President, Laurelwood Townhouse Assn.
George Simon, Homeowner, 14712 Hyannis Port Road
George Speicher, Homeowner, 14711 Alder Lane
Rex Combs, Civic Liaison Director, TMCA
Mr. George Simon
14712 Hyannis port Rd
Tustin, CA., 92680
# 667-87c 1
Cit~ Of TUSTIN
Dept of Public Works
15222 Del Amo Avenue
Tustin, CA., 92680
ATTN:' Mr. Bob Ledendecker::
TUll'IN FUSL. IG YdQ DF.F'T.
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RE:- Follow-UP Ped X'ing between Tustin Meadows
Peppertree on East Sycamore Street.
I recently attended an Association Meeting in Tustin Mea-
dows, 18Jun93 ~ 1930 hrs. I recounted to the members the
ir~ormation I discussed with you during our phoncon 1Jun93,
and the contents of the letter I submitted to you. A report
will be forthcoming to you in the near future.
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Enclosed are a few documents from years past, which will en-
able you to better understand my concer~s of today. Please
note particularly the hi-lighted areas of Enclosures #3&4-
Also, please consider that your actions and those of the
City Council ( or lack of) severly compromised the SECURITY
and Quality of Life for msny of the Residents living in
Tustin Meadows, particularly those of yours trully ~
NElrER TO LATE TO RIGHT A WRONG .': Bob, give it your best shot~
My Suggestion as before is to CLOSE off the Fed X'ing Per-
manently ! ~';
Bob, Thanks for taking the time to listen.
Yours ?r.u21~
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"A clever scheme.' ~a8 devised by"~he ~hen ~a~or of Tus~ln'*; ..mr. ~o .
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acti$~. I~' a~so strongl~"~feel'. the .~.ua~in' Meadows. residents
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were ,SuckeredM into sacrAfi'cing thai
Net to mention their quality of life :!::
Thanks Ben, wherever
ycu are :.':
Closing of Foxcroft street access is still imper-
sincerest thanks for your time and efforts.
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A little less than one-year ago a pedestrian crossing was built
Alder Lane and Sycamore with the primary objective of reducing
walking distance to school for the children of Peppertree. Since the
crossing has been opened our home has experienced the' following.:
1) A dramatic increase in noise resulting from not only the
increased pedestrian traffic but moped and motorcylce traffic
as well.
2) Our home has been the victim of numerous acts of vandalism
such as .... a broken window, paint on the sidewalks,
lawn s-Teas, stolen sprl nkler heads, the house has been hi t
by rocks ..... you name it and it has happened or pzxpbabiy
will in the near future.
3) Increased undesireable activity such as drinking and the use
of drugs ~sulting from the crossing becoming the centra/
meeting point between Tustin Meadows and Peppertree.
4) On numerous occasions the children ridetheir bikes or moDeds
" down the sidewalk adjacent our home directly onto Alder Lane
causing a number of near accidents...the law of aver~_ff, es will
soon catch up to someone. This would undoubtedly cause
liabilty problem for the city.
5) We now have a beautiful view of two towering bright silver
posts approximately twenty feet high with a full compliment of
bells and lighting devices .... just what every residential
neighborhood needs. These devices sre necessary for safety, however,
I feel that they could be ma~e far less obtrusive with a lit. tle
work.
Ideally I would like to see the crossing ~ closed! This would
cause short term inconveniences for the children at~d'i~ Thorma.
High but would benefit all pa~-ties long-term. ~ ---.x~.i~ I ~
propose the following:
,O ~.~'"'_ ~ PERMANENTLY CLOSE THE TW0 EXISTING GATES THAT APE ,"[EX-f TO
HO~ AND THAT OF MY h~EIGHBOR IN TUSTIN ~;J)OWS AKD PUT. TP~
· f~ GATES IN THE, MIDDLE OF THE FENCE h]EXT TO TF~_ E~'~RCENCY FI_.r~ ROAD.
This modification wo~ld accomplish the following:
l) C~t the traffic off of oua~ sidews_lk amd reduce the noise we
are experiencing. We. have a two-year-cid smd an i:~&nt tna'~
s_re constantly awakened by the noise
2) Eliminate the chances of a child or ~ult from bein.~ sever!y
in jutted as a result of riding directly from the side~-~alk into
the Alder and Sycamore intersection. The change would, ad]ow then
to rffde directly into the Cul De Sac which is free from
/~.~ECT COSTS TO CITY OF TUSTIN:
I will do the work and supply whatever materials are
necessary to do the job' properly .... consequently the
cost to %he City of Tustin will be nil.
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I am enclosing a copy of the existing situation and the proposed
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minor modification. If you have any questions whatsoever please
do not hesitate to give me a call at:
8...38-429.,,3
Residence
Business
My wife and I have been residents of Peppertree and Tustin for
over ten years and have thoroughly enjoyed ourselves until this
crossing was installed. I realize that the project was designed
with specific objectives in mind and did not foresee the ramifications
that I described earlier. You are all homeowners in the area and
probably have a fairly good idea of what we are experiencing. ~¥our
consideration and support in the matter would be sincerly appreciated.
Thank You,
:;eorge F. SPeicher
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cc Tustin City:Council Members, City Engineer,Todd Ferguson-Homeowners Pres.
· Inter -Com
TO:
DAN BL~NKENSHIP, CITY ADMINISTRATOR
FRO~4: BOB LEDENDECKER, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS/CITY ENGINEER
SUBJECT: SYCAMORE AVENUE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING
On September 15, 1980, Mr. George Speicher appeared at the City Council
meeting and presented his concerns regarding the subject pedestrian
c~ossing. Also attached for your information is a written con~nunication
from Mr. Speicher.
Since the completion of this crossing about a year ago,. staff has received
complaints from both Mr. Speicher of 14711 Alder Lane and Mr. Sin~n of
14712 Hyannis Port Road about the vandalism, noise, drinking and use of
drugs within the in~nediate area of the crossing. More recently Mr. Speicher
has expressed his concerns about the children who ride their bikes or
mopeds down the sidewalk directly into Alder Lane.
Mr. Speicher has made the following suggestion:
1. Permanently close the two gates and re-
locate them in the middle of the fence
next to the emergency fire road.
Staff has reviewed this suggestion and has verified with the railroad
that if the gases are relocated, a new application must be processed
through the Public Utilities Commission (P.U.C.)and the existing
warnin_c devices with bells and flashing lights would be required to
be adjacent to the relocated walkway.
Other than noise and traffic on the sidewalk, Mr. ,Speicher's other concern
was for the safety of a child or adult being injured as a result of
riding directly from the sidewalk into the Alder Lane and Sycamore
intersection. The closure of these gates would certainly eliminate the
hazard directly from the sidewalk to Alder Lane, but any relocation to
the midOle of the fence area would only relocate the bicycles, mopeds
or motorcyles to Sycamore where a conflict with the Alder Lane traffic
would still exist.
One pe.~sr, anenant solution to this problem would be for the City to pursuex~
the abandonment of the railroad tracks and the con~letion of the Venta
Storm Drain from an open channel to a closed conduit. This would'allow
the adjacent property owners to hopefuly utilize the storm drain and
railroad riQhts of way as a portion of their yards. More in~ortant
would De th~ opening of Sycamore Avenue as a through street between the
communicies of lustin ~adows and Pepper Tree which would eliminate the
· seclus']on of the two dead end streets now enjoyed Ly the yout~ of the
communities. This would certainly be a long term solutioq.
September 30, 1980
Dan Blankenship
Sycamore Avenue Pedestrian Crossing
An interim solution would be the-posting of no loitering signs within
l~he immediate area, increased police patrols during critical hours to
reduce the noise and vandalism and the installation-of barriers and
ramps to discourage bicycle, moped and motorcycle traffic on the sidewalks.
In addition the installation of a stop sign for north and south bound
traffic on Alder Lane at Sycamore Avenue. This stop sign would probably
not meet the State warrants and would most likely be irritating to
motorists living southerly of the intersection.
Recommendati on'
As an interim solution, it is reconvnended that the following be
initiated'
1. Post no loitering signs in the in~nediate ~ ~('~£
vicinity of the pedestrian crossing. ~ "~
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2. Increa.se Police patrols during critical hours.
3. Install barriers across sidewalks, and construct
asphalt ranges to street for access of bikes,
mopeds and motorcycles to Sycamore Avenue. (Per
attached sketch)
4. Install stop sign On Alder Lane at Sycamore Avenue
to reduce bicycle, moped and motorcycle conflicts
with traffic.on Alder Lane.
BOB LEDENDECKER
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS/
CITY ENGINEER
It is further recon~nended that staff be directed to pursue the abandon-
ment of the Venta Spur line, so that Sycamore Avenue may be extended
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to join the two con~nunities.-~ (LO~o~]D~Ai-/.: kj:
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BL'dph
cc' George S~eicher
Georoe Simon
Todd-Fercuson - Pepper Tree Home
- Owners Association
Kathy We~l - Tustin Meadows Home
Owners Association
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City Of TUSTIN
Dept Of Public Works
15222 Del Amo Ave
Tustin, CA., 92680
George SIMON
1~712 Hyannis Port Rd
Tustin, CA., 92680
Ph # (714) 669-8991
01 June 1993
ATTN:- Bob Ledendecker;
RE: Disposition of Pedestrian Crossing - Alder Ln & SycamOre Ave.
As per phoncon O1 June 93 @ 141.Shrs, I hereby submit my comments on
the disposition of the Crosswalk between Tustin Meadows & Peppertree.
On 15 Sept 1980 an appearance by myself and Mr. George' Speicher
before the Tustin City Council to discuss the alleviation or modi-
fying of the Ped Crossing proved futile. Since then the problems
resulting from said crossing has -dramatically worsened. To wit;
NOISE level increased, Ped path being used as SKATEBOARD areana,
bicycles, Mo-Peds & Motorcyle roadway~ etc..
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When I moved'to my present location in April 1974, Sycamore Ave was
a .Dead End Street, a major ditch existed behind my house, a Train
would 'come by once a week and except efor afew beer parties, and
Couples parked on (Lover's Lane) Sycamore all.was relatively .QUIET '.
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~0T SO anymore; Every morning the children going to school around '7~M
Tome screeming by, ,those on Skateboards come roaring by (Ten "feet from
my bedroom) Mopeds even motorcyles cruise thru the ineffective 'bar-
riers, not to mentioned those thoughtful Parents who drive up in cars
to ride-share/honking their HORNS to get the attention of some Of
the students coming from Peppertree. They do this on the TuStin
Meadows side right adjacent'to'my house. Let me tell Xyou, "What a
sound to awaked to .' .' .' WHAT A WAY TO START THE DAY????? .' .' .'
,.,.
During the afternoon around 2:30 PM the kids return from school and
commence to eeign terror on all neighbors houses by throwing rocks
(as big as your fist) into backyards in my sideyard and on my rooE,
Soda bottles, cans. dead animals, dog crap, you name it. What energ2
these kids of today have, esoec~ally the ones living in Peppertree w
and Laurelwood where .one the kids I caught in the act of throwing
rocks at my house on~-~hie way from school. AT night it 'sa whole new
ball game.
My Sugge s t ions;
cc George 'Speicher
Bob Quin
(1) Close 'the street off permanently along with
Foxcroft Street.
(2) Re-Route the Ped Crossing .
(3) Completely OPEN SyCamore s~reet.
- T~ ~T,~ ~J~-J~ ~ ~¢O~ Respectfully Submitted
Mr.~ George Si~.on
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