HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC MINUTES 1974 09 16 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN CITY COUNCIL
September 16, 1974
CALL TO ORDER The Mayor called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
II.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE Led by Councilman Edgar.
III.
INVOCATION Given by Councilman Saltarelli.
IV.
ROLL CALL Present: Councilmen: Langley, Sharp, Edgar,
Saltarelli, Welsh.
Absent: Councilmen: None.
Others present: Harry E. Gill, City Administrator
R. Kenneth Fleagle, Assistant City
Administrator for Community De-
velopment
James Rourke, City Attorney
Ruth C. Poe, City Clerk
V.
PUBLIC
HEARINGS 1. APPEAL OF USE PERMIT 74-6
An appeal by the Tustin.Community Hospital of
the Planning Commission approval, with condi-
tions, of Use Permit 74-6. Use Permit granted
authorization for expansion of the hospital sub-
ject to the providing of adequate parking
facilities.
Location: 14662 Newport Avenue
Mr. Fleagle related that the Planning Commission con-
ducted two public hearings and approved the expansion
of the hospital by the adoption of Resolution 1401,
subject to the provision that additional adequate
parking facilities be provided. The applicant ap-
pealed the decision of the Planning Commission based
upon certain relevant information that they did not
present when the matter was heard by the Commission.
The Mayor opened the public portion of the hearing
at 7:35 p.m.
Mr. Charles Stanley Dyer, Administrator of the
Tustin Community Ho~pita!, informed the Council that
he wanted to make i~ very clear that the addition of
these 6900 square feet of area would not cause any
additional employees or patients. They will be relo-
caring the psysiological lab which is fully staffed
at this time and occupying a patient room. They will
also relocate the recovery room which is overcrowded
at present. The Department of Radiology and the Cli-
nical Laboratory which are also overcrowded will be
moved into new and larger quarters. All of this ex-
pansion will not add any new employees or cause any
additional parking problems.
Mr. Dyer presented a parking poll, taken by the hos-
pital, to the Council, to show the amount of vacant
parking spaces at various times. Mr. Dyer also pre-
sented letters to the Council, written'F~"~'various
prominent Tustin Citizens, stating that they had not
had any parking problems at the hospital.
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Mr. Dyer explained the different uses that the
hospital provides for service organizations in
the Tustin Community. Some of them are: Lit-
tle League physicals, Chamber of Commerce din-
ners, nurses' training for Santa Ana College
and Orange Coast College, Tustin Woman's Club
· meetings, ~hurch uses, Critical Care Nursing
Seminars and many other community affairs.
Mayor Langley commended the hospital on their )
contribution of services to the Tustin Community
and questioned Mr. Dyer if these new facilities
would encourage additional usage. Mr. Dyer an-
swered no, that the new addition would create
better facilities and more convenience to Staff
and patients alike.
Councilman Sharp commented that the new space
seems to be for diagnostic services for inpatients,
would it also be for outpatients? Mr. Dyer stat-
ed the services would be used by both inpatients
and outpatients, as is done at present, and the
new area would supply more adequate room.
Councilman Edgar commented that consideration should
be given to the public services that the Hospital
provides and schedule them so there is no conflict
with the change of shifts.
The public hearing was closed at 7:55 p.m.
After some discussion among the Councilmen per-
taining to the parking problems and possible sol-
utions, Mayor Langley questioned Mr. Dyer about
parking on the cement block yard property. Mr.
Dyer explained that the hospital considered this
property but found that it would be an uncontrol-
lable solution due to the fact that a lease could
not be obtained for more than three years.
Mayor Langley commented that he felt there are two
alternatives available to the Council: 1. Refer
the matter back to the Planning Commission or 2.
Resolve the problem now with definite direction.
Councilman Sharp stated that he felt the Planning
Commission was in a better position to evaluate
the situation with the additional information that
was provided this evening.
Moved by Sharp, seconded by Edgar, to refer the
parking study and evaluating correspondence that
was presented this evening, back to the Planning
Commission and have them look into the feasibili-
ty of the clienteL being expanded by the new di-
agnostic services that will be provided.
Councilman Saltarelli expressed his opinion that ~'~
the Council should either approve or deny the
change and dispense with the matter. Mayor Lang-
ley agreed, stating that if the matter was referred
back to the Planning Commission, it could again be
appealed back to the Council.
Councilman Welsh stated that since the Planning Com-
mission had already heard this matter and with the
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additional information provided this evening, they
would have a more total picture to make the decision.
Above motion carried b~ 3-2 vote, Councilmen
Langley and Saltarelli voting no.
Councilman Saltarelli requested that the $30. ap-
peal fee be returned to the Hospital since no de-
cision was reached by the City Council, Council
concurred.
2. Zone Change 74-11
Application for rezoning of property consist.
ing of the 68 unit Windsor Garden Apartments
from the R-3 (2000) (Multi-Family) (Resident-
ial) District to the PD (Planned Development)
District for the purpose of eventually convert-
ing the existing apartments to condominiums.
Site consists of a 4.8 acre parcel located on
the northeast side of Mitchell Avenue approxi-
mately 660' + southeast of Red Hill Avenue.
Mr. Fleagle outlined the staff report and pointed
out that this zone change would put the existing
development into a non-conforming status since it
exceeds the maximum ground coverage permitted and
thus does not provide the minimum 50% open space
needed in a condominium development. The struc-
tures could be taken out of the non-conforming
status by a reduction in ground coverage through
the elimination of units, and in this particular
case by the filing of a tract map indicating such
a reduction. The Planning Commission noted this
and recommended approval subject to the stipulation
that any future development plans be submitted in
strict compliance with the PD (Planned Development)
District Regulations, and the development standards
of our City.
Councilman Saltarelli questioned how many units
would have to be removed to bring this project in-
to conformance.
The public hearing was opened at 8:20 p.m.
Claude ~lements~, 17581 Irvine Boulevard, Tustin,
responded to Councilman Saltarelli's question,
that after an evaluation of the project, 8 units
would have to be removed to obtain the necessary
50% open space. Mr. Clements comnented that if
this project would be approved, they would not hes-
itate to remove the eight buildings and retain the
necessary parking spaces.
Councilman Saltarelli questioned which buildings
would be removed. Mr. Clements stated that they
had not finalized any plans at this time but they
would remove the buildings in the vicinity of the
pool area so as to keep the recreation area and
open space in one location.
City Council Minutes
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Mr. Fleagle stated that he had no objections to
this proposal.
Mr. Clemments stated that they would be willing
to work with Staff to finalize the details of
the project;however, the owners do not wish to
sell at this time until the interest rates come
down.
Mr. Fleagle pointed out to the Council that this
delay could have a severe impact on the project
and perhaps they should continue this matter as
a closed hearing to a time certain.
Mayor Langley closed the public hearing at 8:30
p.m.
Moved by Edgar, seconded by Sharp, to continue
Zone Change 74-11 as a closed hearing to Novem-
ber 18, 1974. Carried unanimously.
3. Pasadena-Carlann Annexation No~ 84 Protest
Hearing
Location: Pasadena Ave., Carlann Circle,
Boleyn Circle.
Mr. Gill explained that there are 17 property
owners Involved in this annexation and 8 of them
have registered letters of protest which repre-
sents 81% of the total assessed valuation. Mr.
Gill suggested that perhaps the annexation should
be dropped because of the large number of pro-
tests from the property owners.
Councilman Saltaretli questioned Staff if the res-
idents would be voting on this annexation? Mr.
Rourke answered that it would not be the thing
to do in light of the protests. Mr. Gill advised
that some of the registered voters in the subject
area had also registered protests.
Mayor Langley opened the public hearing at 8:35
p.m.
Mr. Riehard Rein, 13521 ~FLs3~a~e, Sahta Ana,
claimedth~t'~e ~a~ not ~e~'~6~i~al~E the hear-
ing but this could have taken place because the
property has recently changed hands. Mr. Rein
informed the Council that he does not wish his pro-
perties to be annexed to the City of Tustin and
his tenants do not wish to become a part of the
City of Tustin.
Councilman Saltarelli expressed his opinions that
if these residents do not want any City services,
the Council should see to it that no fire and po-
lice protection is provided for this area, also
no recreation facilities should be available to
them.
Councilman Sharp related to Mr. Rein that the City
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has to stretch every dollar just to provide services
for its own residents. If the people in the County
areas don't want to help pick up the tab, then it's
a matter of economics that the City cannot provide
any services to the County residents that don't wish
to become part of Tustin.
Councilman Saltarelli commented that he feels the
people that live in that area should have a voice
in their wishes, whether they want to be a part of
Tustin or not. Councilman Edgar concurred that he
feels an election should be held for those people
that reside in that area.
The public portion of the hearing was closed at
8:40 p.m.
Councilman Welsh questioned Staff how much an elec-
tion would cost. Mr. Gill responded about $2000.
Moved by Saltarelli, seconded by Edgar, to have an
election concerning Annexation No. 84 (Pasadena-
Carlann) in March, 1975. Motion carried by 3-2
vote, Councilmen Langley and Welsh voting no.
VI.
PUBLIC
CONCERNS 1. James Moffat, 13702 Saigon Lane, Santa Ana,
stated his concerns relative to Annexation No. 84,
and that he does not wish his properties to be an-
nexed into the City and feels that the County pro-
vides him with very good services.
VII.
CONSENT
CALENDAR 1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of September 3, 1974.
2. RATIFICATION OF DEMANDS in the amount of
$82,155.14.
3. RESOLUTION NO. 74-70
A Resolution of the City Council of the City of
Tustin AUTHORIZING THE MAINTENANCE OF CERTAIN
CASH FUNDS WITHIN THE CITY FOR THE EFFICIENT
CONDUCT OF BUSINESS.
4. RESOLUTION NO. 74-71
A Resolution of the City Council of the City
of Tustin, California, ANNEXING TO THE CITY OF
TUSTIN CERTAIN TERRITORY DESCRIBED HEREIN, AND
DESIGNATED MYFORD REALIGNMENT ANNEXATION NO. 86.
5. OFFICE OF TRAFFIC SAFETY - ACCIDENT IDENTIFICA-
TION AND SURVEILLANCE STUDY PROPOSALS.
Authorization for the execution of a contract
with the firm Governmental Professional Services,
Inc., of Santa Ana subject to the final approval
of the City Attorney and the California Office
of Traffic Safety - as recommended by the City
Engineer.
Councilmen Edgar and Sharp questioned I~em No. 5,
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and how would this study fit into the picture of
the Traffic Commission?
Mr. Gill informed that this is a factual type
study and will be used by the Traffic Commission
when completed.
Moved by Edgar, seconded by Sharp that all items
on the Consent Calendar be approved. Carried
unanimously.
VIII.
ORDINANCES
FOR
ADOPTION: 1. ORDINANCE NO. 635
An ordinance of the City Council of the City
of Tustin ESTABLISHING REGULATIONS FOR DEDICA-
TION OF LAND, PAYMENT OF FEES, OR BOTH FOR
PARK AND RECREATIONAL LAND IN SUBDIVISIONS.
2. ORDINANCE NO. 636
An Ordinance of the City of Tustin, California,
AMENDING THE TUSTIN CITY CODE RELATIVE TO
BUILDING REGULATIONS, AND ADOPTING THE 1973
UNIFORM BUILDING CODE, 1973 UNIFORM MECHANICAL
CODE AND 1973 PLUMBING CODE.
3. ORDINANCE NO. 637
An Ordinance of the City of Tustin, California,
ADOPTING A UNIFORM FIRE CODE PRESCRIBING REG-
ULATIONS GOVERNING CONDITIONS HAZARDOUS TO LIFE
AND PROPERTY FROM FIRE OR EXPLOSION, AND ES-
TABLISHING A BUREAU OF FIRE PREVENTION AND PRO-
VIDING OFFICERS THEREFORE AND DEFINING THEIR
POWERS AND DUTIES AND ADOPTING THE 1973 UNI-
FORM FIRE CODE AND 1974 SUPPLEMENT THERETO.
Moved by Saltarelti, seconded by Welsh that Ordin-
ances 635, 636 and 637 have second reading by title
only. Carried unanimously.
The Secretary read Ordinances 635, 636 and 637 by
title.
Moved by Edgar, seconded by Welsh that Ordinances
635, 636and 637 be adopted.
In response to Councilman Sharp's question pertain-
ing to Ordinance No. 637, Morgan Hilton, Fire
Chief, stated that this Ordinance does not change
any procedures in the Fire Department but rather
spells out duties more specifically.
Councilman Saltarelli questioned if this covered
prohibiting Fire Works in public places. Attorney
Rourke answered that this could be added to Section
12.111 of the Fire Code and could be done by amend-
ment at the next meeting so this Ordinance could
be adopted tonight.
Above motion to adopt Ordinances 635, 636, and 637
carried. Ayes: Langley, Sharp, Edgar, Saltarelli,
Welsh. Noes: none. Absent: none.
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ORDINANCES
FOR
INTRODUCTION 1. ORDINANCE NO. 638
An Ordinance of the City of Tustin, California,
AMENDING THE TUSTIN CITY CODE TO PROVIDE FOR
MEMBERS AND ALTERNATE MEMBERS OF THE LICENSE
AND PERMIT BOARD.
Councilman Saltarelli questioned this Ordinance
and stated that he feels it is not necessary for
a member to be able to designate his alternate.
Moved by Edgar, seconded by Sharp that Ordinance
No. 638 be read by title. Carried 4-1. Council-
man Saltarelli voted no.
Ordinance No. 638 read in entirety, substituting
President of Chamber of Commerce for City Clerk.
Moved by Edgar, seconded by Sharp that Ordinance
No. 638 be introduced. Carried 4-1. Councilman
Saltarelli voted no.
X.
NEW
BUSINESS None
XI.
OLD
BUSINESS 1. REVISION OF PLOT PLAN - MARK III APARTMENTS
( UP 73-17)
Maurice Lebanoff, by letter of September 5,
1974, requests City Council reconsideration of
its denial of a revision of the plot plan for
the recreation area and open space for the 47
unit Mark III apartment complex located on the
west side of Browning + 250 feet southerly of
Nisson Road.
Mr. Fleagle reported. that due to an oversight or
misunderstanding, the applicant was not aware that
the City Council would be considering this item on
Tuesday, September 3, 1974. A request has there-
fore been made to present to the City Council the
justification for the proposed revision.
Moved by Edgar, seconded by Saltarelli to recon-
sider and hear representation on Use Permit 73-17.
Carried unanimously.
Bill Reed, Architect, 160 Centennial Way, Tustin,
presented a chronological synopsis of events of
the project, including revisions to the plans. He
contended that the revised plot plans and land-
scape plans had been submitted to the Building De-
partment and that Mr. Lenorovitz had approved his
revised landscape plan, as prepared by Mr. Frank
Radmacher.
Mr. Fleagle responded that there is no copy of a
revised plan on file in the Community Development
Department and no record nor acknowledgement of
Mar. Lenorovitz's approval, other than for a wall
plan.
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The Council questioned Mr. Reed how the building
permit had been secured when the landscape plans
were dated March 1974, signed in June 1974, and
the permit was issued in January 1974. Mr. Reed
answered that the plans were revised in March of
1974.
Mr. Rex Waldo, Building Official, stated that he
issued a permit on the basis of the Council ap-
proved concept for recreation building. However,
approved plans are on file that indicate 2 re-
creation buildings. The Building Inspector be-
came aware of the discrepancies when construction
was started on two recreation buildings and a per-
mit had been granted for only one.
Mr. Frank Radmacher, Landscape Architect, 17501
Irvine Blvd., Tustin, explained to the Council
that this new plan was much superior to the other
plan because it provided a much better living en-
vironment for the tenants. This revised design
includes a jacuzzi, a sauna, an expanded pool deck-
ing around it, a laundry room and other recreation
amenities. A solid wood fence with some masonry
"panels" is to be located along the 20' setback
line. Eliminated in the process was the elevated
wood decking, ponds and stream, recreation room and
wrought iron fence. Mr. Radmacher stated that re-
cent experience bears that streams are subject to
bugs, mosquitoes and frequent maintenance is re-
quired on the pumps for the streams.
Coi~%cilman Edgar questioned if the view from Brown-
ing would still be ground cover with berming and
mounding. Mr. Fleagle answered that this would
still be the desired concept.
Moved by Edgar, seconded by Welsh to approve the
plan as shown, with berming and mounding in the
open landscaped areas, and wrought iron fence.
Carried unanimously.
2. APPLICATION OF WILHELM PICH FOR RELOCATION
ASSISTANCE BENEFITS.
Mr. Rourke informed the/Council that the applicant,
Mr. Pich, and his attorney, Mr. Dumhart, were in
the audience. Councilman Saltarelli questioned if
this action is to be a public hearing. Mr. Rourke
stated that the Council should hear Mr. Pich and
then make a decision, now or later, or call for a
public hearing on the matter.
Mr. Anton Dumhart, 12411 Gilbert St., Garden Grove,
attorney for Mr. Pich, informed the Council that
he had received the memo from Mr. Rourke dated
June 20, 1974. Mr. Boznanski was advised at the
first meeting with Mr. Dumhart and Mr. Pich that
Mr. Pich was unsuccessful in obtaining a place
for relocation and would apply for in-lieu bene-
fits. Mr. Dumbart stated that he wanted to clear
up some inaccuracies in the report from Mr. Rourke:
Mr. Pich was paying $180 per month for rent and not
over $200. Mr. AndersOn is not a friend but it was
a landlord-tenant arrangement. (Mr. Dumhart said
that they had tried to reach Mr. Anderson to be
present at the meeting tonight but could not get in
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touch with him). The property at 465 W. First
Street does not accommodate four cars in covered
areas and fourteen cars in the open, but has 3
stalls and 4 parking spaces inside repair shop.
Mr. Dumhart related to the Council that he felt
the 465 W. First Street property was not a com-
parable property and had substantially less area
than 155 W. First Street.
Last year Mr. Pich moved his business to Santa
Ana and then to Lake Elsinore and feels he should
be fully awarded $10,000.
Councilman Saltarelli stated that a thorough and
concise report should be presented to the Council.
Mr. Pich has a right to a speedy decision and Mr.
Saltarelli thought a decision should be made at
the next meeting. Councilman Edgar concurred
and stated that he felt the Council should be
fair in whatever they do in this matter.
This matter will be determined at the October 7,
1974 meeting.
XII~
OTHER
BUSINESS 1. ORANGE COUNTY MANPOWER COMMISSION GRANTS
Mr. Gill advised that recently the Orange County
Manpower Commission made available potential em-
ployment grants. The City of Tustin has received
notification that the Youth Development Program I
has been funded in the amount of $4,884.00. This
money will enable the City to employ six part
time high school students in the following areas:
three boys in the Maintenance Department, two
students as playground supervisors and one stu-
dent to perform general office work. This pro-
gram will allow the students to work ten hours
per week. In response to Councilman Welsh's
question, Mr. Gill responded that the salary for
the students would be $2.00 per hour.
2. PEDESTRIAN WALK ON EAST SIDE OF.RED HILL
NORTHERLY OF WALNUT
The subject walk was reviewed by the City Council
at their meeting of September 3, 1974, with the
finding that it would be feasible to install an
asphalt concrete walkway adjacent to the easter-
ly side of the Red Hill Avenue roadway.
Councilman Saltarelli questioned if this matter
has been discussed with the property owner.
M~yor ~La~le~~ answered that he had discussed this
with Mr. NissOn, the property owner, and received
his permission.
Moved by Saltarelli~ seconded by Welsh, that work
commence as soon as possible for the pedestrian
~flkway. Carried c~unanimously.
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3. FIRST STREET STRIPING AND SIGNING - NEWPORT
FREEWAY TO PROSPECT AVENUE
Councilman Saltarelli recommended to proceed with
the plan as studied and presented by the staff.
4. EASTBOUND LEFT TURNS AT FIRST STREET AND
NEWPORT
Councilman Welsh commended Staff on the excellent
report and suggested that the report be forward-
ed to interested parties.
Mayor Langley questioned staff if the traffic sig-
nal could be delayed for the west bound movement
so that the east bound traffic turning left would
have a clear intersection.
Mr. Ledendecker, City Engineer, stated that atthis
time he is not familiar with the type of equipment
used at the intersection but a study will be made
as ~o which model is feasible and what the cost
would be.
5. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY REGULATIONS
Mr. Fleagle reported on the new regulations from
EPA, regarding parking lots that accommodate more
than 250 vehicles, which are scheduled to beef-
fective January 1, 1975. There are three alter-
natives for obtaining a~!7~permit.
a. Application to the San FranbiscoEPA Of-
fice, with minimum of 90 day review period.
b. ~i~y~.~ermit ~o~he~f~nding~th~ the~park,
i~im~ets~a~ci~y~p~rkin~i-~anagement!plan
~ Was a~6p~ea i~ accordance with ~he
EPA Guidelines.
c. The administration of a parking management
plan by a regional agency such as SCAG or
the Air Pollution District.
After some discussion among the Councilmen regard-
ing their displeasure with these regulations,
Council directed the City Attorney to prepare a
resolution to attempt to gain legislative support
for rescission of the EPA parking management reg-
ulations, and to be forwarded to the ICC for dis-
~tribution.
6. SEPTEMBER 30 WORKSHOP
Councilman Edgar requested that a Workshop Circle
of 20 or so be set up for the September 30,1974
combined workshop. Mr. Edgar stated that he felt
it was important to receive the material a few
days in advance.
7. MAINTENANCE YARD
Councilman Edgar questioned staff if a time table
had been established with the School District for
the future maintenance yard.
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Mr. Gill informed the Council that Dr. Clemmer
was on vacation in August and a meeting with
the School District will be held in the near fu-
ture .
8. NEW CIVIC CENTER LANDSCAPE PLANS
In response to Councilman Edgar's question, Mr.
Gill answered that the southerly parking lot
plans will not be designed until the Library
plans are firmed up.
9. LEAGUE OF CITIES DINNER, SEPTEMBER 26
Councilman Saltarelli informed the Staff that he
was pleased to hear that Monsignor Sammon was the
guest speaker at the upcoming League of Cities
Dinner on September 26, 1974.
XIV.
ADJOURNMENT Mayor Langley adjourned the meeting at 11:10
p.m., to a Personnel Session, then to the Sept-
ember 30, 1974 workshop session (7:00 p.m.), then
to the regular meeting on October 7, 1974 (7:30
p.m.).
MAYOR
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