HomeMy WebLinkAbout01 PC Minutes 4-28-03MINUTES
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING- 7:00 P.M.
ITEM #1
7:05 p.m.
Given
Jennings absent
Staff present
None
Approved
Continued to
May 12, 2003,
Planning Commission
meeting
7:06 p.m.
Reekstin
Nielsen
APRIL 28, 2003
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Doug Holland, Assistant City Attorney
Scott Reekstin, Senior Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES- APRIL 14, 2003, PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING.
It was moved by Amante, seconded by Menard, to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARING
2. CODE AMENDMENT 03-003 (SECOND RESIDENTIAL
UNITS) TO IMPOSE STANDARDS ON SECOND UNITS.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission hold a public hearing and
continue the public hearing for Code Amendment 03-003
to the May 12, 2003, Planning Commission meeting.
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report; and, requested that the item be
continued to the next Planning Commission meeting to allow for
additional public hearing noticing.
Asked if a second unit could be added vertically.
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Reekstin
Nielsen
Reekstin
Pontious
Director
Holland
Director
Menard
Reekstin
Menard
Reekstin
Menard
Reekstin
Responded that a second unit could be added as a second floor
or two-story addition attached to the back of a single- or two-
story structure.
Asked for the meaning of 9271 bb, referred to in the staff report.
Stated 9271bb is a section regarding widths of driveways and
prevents the paving over entire front yards.
Asked if there is an appeal provision when an applicant receives
an unsatisfactory ministerial review.
Answered in the affirmative.
Added there is a general appeal section provided under the
Zoning Ordinance; the problem is that if a denial is appealed,
there would be a much tougher standard in regard to whether or
not that appeal could be granted; in this case, it would be the
abuse of discretion standard; as long as the Director had
correctly applied the limited criteria, there would not be a basis
for the appeal; also, if someone came in with an application for
something that deviated from one of the standards, such as two
covered parking spaces, the applicant would need a variance.
Added that a variance would place such an application within
the discretionary review category.
Asked if all the existing zoning designations would remain the
same.
Answered in the affirmative.
Asked what the maximum lot coverage for the second unit is
based upon; for example, does 30 percent of the rear yard and
30 percent of the side yard mean the entire lot.
Stated the 30 percent is based upon the area from the rear of
the existing structure to the back property line, to ensure that
some rear yard is maintained; added it can be confusing
because there are also percentages of total lot area for total
coverage of structures and separate standards for coverage in
the rear yard only; the side yard was included to allow for
generous side yards such as those in pie-shaped lots; the goal
is for some side yard and some rear yard to be maintained as
open.
Asked how this affects the Overlay District in Old Town.
Stated it will still apply to lots in Old Town.
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Menard
Reekstin
Pontious
Director
Amante
Holland
Amante
Holland
Amante
Reekstin
Amante
Reekstin
Asked if an R-1 lot in Old Town with a duplex behind or garage
apartments that are not in conformance now and were built
before the zoning map was laid out would be impacted by this
change.
Stated that this situation is addressed by the definition of
second residential unit which is: "A building or portion thereof
designed for residential occupancy on a lot developed with a
legal conforming [emphasis added] single-family dwelling."
Suggested that those lots not presently in conformance would
be required to make changes to be in compliance.
Indicated such sites could be brought into conformity if they met
the standards.
Asked the Assistant City Attorney to explain the change from
owner occupancy requirements to non-owner occupancy and
why that applies in the conditions being considered.
Distributed a copy of Assembly Bill 1866, which is incorporated
herein by reference, and provided the associated background.
Suggested the standards were appropriate.
Responded in the affirmative; and, added there are
approximately 100 lots that would be allowed to take advantage
of this ministerial approach to the ordinance.
Asked for clarification regarding the 10 percent of total lot width
for the side yard setback for attached as opposed to detached
second units, suggesting there is the ability to pick the more
stringent of those to assure enough setback.
Stated that is the case with the existing standards, but the
proposed ordinance would not do it that way and would make it
more standardized.
Asked when the primary dwelling is set farther back on the lot
and the proposal is to build a second unit close to the street,
what standards would apply and what happens with entrances
on the existing rear parcel.
Indicated a development standard that provides: "When the
primary single-family dwelling would conform to the
development standards normally applicable to second
residential units and the second residential unit is built between
the primary single-family dwelling and the front property line, the
second residential unit shall be subject to the development
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standards normally applicable to the primary single-family
dwelling." Therefore, the roles are switched and the primary
dwelling at the rear would have to have the garage setback and
have an entrance that would not be visible; at some point, no
one would know which dwelling came first.
Amante
Asked if that would still go through the ministerial process, per
the new code amendment.
Staff
Replied in the affirmative.
Holland
Referred to a Commissioner's mention of a "second lot"; staff is
not advocating, supporting, or recommending a "second lot"
which would allow for any subdivision; the proposal is for one lot
on which two units would be located.
Pontious
Asked what area of Tustin, other than Old Town, would be
included within the 100 lots referred to.
Reekstin
Referred to the neighborhoods zoned E-4 (Estate Residential)
and perhaps some lots throughout the City that are pie-shaped on
a cul-de-sac that could be R-l; staff did not measure all the lots,
but some might qualify.
Holland
Stated that if the City is successful in consolidating some of its
boundaries, there are also lots in the unincorporated County area
to which this ordinance could apply.
Director
Suggested there could be a side benefit to this code amendment;
the recent Housing Element Update did not allow second units to
qualify as affordable housing; in the next Update these units will
be countable.
Menard
Suggested that when occupants come in to put a second unit on
a lot, they should be forewarned that a second unit changes the
ability to obtain a home equity loan; most banks and financial
institutions will base a loan on 100 percent of the value of the
home; whenever there are dual units on a single lot, that figure is
reduced to 75 percent.
Amante
Asked if there is a risk that at some point the Legislature will state
the standards being set by code amendment mean there can be
no discretion at some future point to revisit the standards and say
they are not functioning well and need to be changed.
Holland
Remarked that the creativity of the State regarding legislation
provides no guarantees as to what might happen; at least this
legislation recognizes that local agencies have a degree of local
control in dealing with local land use issues; if a problem is
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Amante
Nielsen
Director
Nielsen
Director
Pontious
Brett Floyd, 12433
Sebastian Place
Pontious
Mr. Floyd
Director
perceived with these units, we have the ability to come back,
address it, and make appropriate changes in order to deal with
those problems and issues under the current set of laws.
Stated that the amendment seems balanced and accounts for
parking impacts and traffic and maintains the kind of quality
regarding the appearance of the community that the City seeks;
his concern is that Sacramento has a tendency not to care about
issues that may be important locally; Old Town will be the most
impacted by this amendment, and the City should be allowed to
do its own planning.
Asked if there will be a financial impact to the City as a result of
this amendment.
Answered that individuals who come through will need to pay the
appropriate plancheck fees and associated costs; if individuals
improve their lots, they will pay property taxes based on the
associated property values; there can be a potential increase for
services; as densities go up, services go up; it is not anticipated
there will be rush of these requests; people in single-family
districts want to maintain the single-family nature of the districts;
there may be people who take advantage of the second units,
however, their intended use, as Mr. Holland suggested, would be
for elderly parents, not as rental units for income; they can be
used for that, however, and if areas become overly dense, the
City will have to respond accordingly.
Asked if parking monitoring will take place in these areas that
have an abundance of second units to indicate how circulation is
being influenced in those neighborhoods.
Answered in the affirmative.
Invited the public to the lectern.
Asked if the amendment applies only to owner occupied units in
applying for a second unit, or would a non-owner occupied single-
family residence apply.
Suggested he was asking if both units could be rentals.
Answered in the affirmative; and, asked if an owner does not
occupy the primary residence, can that owner apply for a second
unit.
Stated that an owner of a piece of property can request a second
unit whether or not that owner lives on the property.
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None
Director reported
Menard
Staff
Nielsen
Director
Menard
Amante
It was moved by Amante, seconded by Nielsen, to continue this
item to the May 12, 2003, Planning Commission meeting. Motion
carried 4-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS
STAFF CONCERNS
,
REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE APRIL 21,
2003, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
The City Council conducted a Public Hearing regarding the use of
the Community Development Block Grant funds for Fiscal Year
2003-04; staff will be preparing the One-Year Action Plan and
submitting it to HUD in early May.
Staff presented the Katherine Spur report to the City Council; the
Council provided minor direction regarding alternatives; after
more research, the matter will be brought before the Planning
Commission.
Reported that the Arco station at the corner of Red Hill and San
Juan is being demolished; staff has received no development
plans for that site.
Asked if the station is part of the shopping center.
Responded the station is on a separate lot.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Asked the status of the plans for the project at the former Ralphs
shopping center at Red Hill and Walnut.
Indicated she met with the owners about two and one-half months
ago and was told the new Korean market with an internal food
court, a bank, and other internal services should be operational by
mid-summer; several internal improvements were necessary.
None
Indicated the Easter Egg Hunt was enjoyable and well-attended.
Thanked Brett Floyd for bringing his Segway to the meeting for
the Commission and staff to enjoy.
Reminded everyone to attend the Chili Cook-Off on June 1't
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Stated he attended a recent meeting of the Orange County
Transportation Authority; and, voiced his concern regarding the
OCTA's proposal to expedite the construction of CenterLine at a
cost of $1.2 billion.
Pontious
None
7:47 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is
scheduled for Monday, May 12, 2003, at 7:00 p.m. in the Council
Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
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