HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC MINUTES 1972 05 01 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN CITY .COUNCIL
May l, 1972
CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Mayor C. Miller.
II.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE Led by Councilman Langley.
IIl.
INVOCATION Given by Mayor C. Miller.
ROLL CALL Present: Councilman: C. Miller, Saltar&lli,
L. Miller, Langley, Welsh.
Absent: Councilmen: None.
Others present: City Administrator Harry Gill
Asst. City Admin. Dan Blankenship
Asst~ City Admin.-Comm. Devel.
Ken Fleagle
City Attorney James Rourke
City Clerk Ruth Poe
Ve
PUBLIC
HEARINGS 1. CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENT TO THE
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
Mayor C. Miller opened the public portion of the
hearing at 7: 37 p .m.
There being no comments or objections, it was
moved by Councilman Saltarelli, seconded by
~ouncilman Welsh that this hearing be continued
in an open manner to the meeting of May 15, 1972.
Carried unanimously.
VI.
CONSENT
CALENDAR 1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - April 18, 1972 meeting
2. APPROVAL OF DEMANDS in amount of $62,802.81
-Moved by L. Miller, seconded by Saltarell~ that
items 1 and 2 of the Consent Calendar be approved.
.Carried unanimously.
VII.
ORDINANCES
FOR
ADOPTION 1. ORDINANCE NO. 542
An Ordinance of the City of Tustin, California.
PREZONING PROPERTY ON APPLICATION NO.PZ 72~133,
INITIATED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
Prezoning an approximately 2.54 acre parcel
flq3m County E-4 (Small Estates) District to
City of Tustin R-1 (Single Family Residential)
District. Property located approximately 660'
north of the centerline of Seventeenth Street,
with approximately 340' frontage on the west
side of Prospect Avenue.
5/1/72 Page 2
2. ORDINANCE NO. 543
An ordinance of the City Council of the City
Of Tustin, California, THE ANNEXA-
TION OF CERTAIN UNINHABITED TERRITORY, DESIG-
NATED PROSPECT-IRVINE-NEWPORT ANNEXATION NO.
68 (REVISED) TO THE CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA.
The secretary read the titles of Ordinances 542 and
543 at the Mayor's request.
Moved by L. Miller, seconded by Langley tha't
further reading be waived and that Ordinances
542 and 543 by passed and adopted. Carried.
Ayes: Langley, L. Miller, Welsh. Noes: C. Miller,
Saltarelli. Absent: none.
VIII.
ORDINANCES
FOR
INTRODUCTION NONE
IX.
RESOLUTIONS I. RESOLUTION NO. 72-23
A Resolution of the City Council of the City
of Tustin, California ESTABLISHING PORTIONS
OF MCFADDEN AVENUE AND NEWPORT AVENUE TO BE
COUNTY HIGHWAY DURING THE PERIOD OF STREET
IMPROVEMENT BY THE COUNTY OF ORANGE.
2. RESOLUTION NO. 72-24
A Resolution of the City Council of the City
of Tustin, California, ANNEXING TO THE CITY
OF TUSTIN CERTAIN TERRITORY DESCRIBED HEREIN,
AND DESIGNATED PROSPECT-CARLSBAD ANNEXATION
NO. 75.
3. RESOLUTION NO. 72-25
A Resolution of City Council of the City
of Tustin; California, FINDING AND DETERMINING
THAT THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND NECESSITY REQUIRE,
AND ORDERING, THE ACQUISITION BY CONDEMNATION
OF CERTAIN PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES.
Property located at Utt Drive and Mitchell Avenue.
Moved by Saltarelli., seconded by, Langleythat
~esolutions 72-23, 72-24, and 72-25 be read by
title only. Carried unanimously.
The titlesof Resolutions 72-23, 72-24, and 72-25
._._were read by the secretary.
Movedby L. Miller, seconded by Saltarellithat
Resolutions 72-23, 72-24, and 72-25 be passed and
~. Carried. Ayes: C. Miller, Saltarelli,,
L. Mllter',~, Welsh. Noes: none. Absent:
none.
OLD
BUSINESS 1. SOLID WASTE COLLECTION BIDS
(see next page)
' ' - Counci i Minutes
5/1/72 Page 3
Mr. Grady Henry, Chamber of Commerce president,
asked the following questions:
a. How can Athens Disposal charge $1.50 per
single family residence in Monterey Park
and only $1.03 (proposed) in Tustin?
b. Does the price Of containers in bids include
wheels, lids, roll-out service, etc.?
c. Why are 55-gallon barrels discussed in low
bid, when they are illegal according to
City Code Section 4712 in which maximum
capacity is declared to be 35-gallon with
maximum weight of 60 pounds?
d. Are cost of living increases included in
all bids, if the contractor bills the customer?
e. How much new equipment will be required of
the low bidder within 90 days?
Mr. Blankenship replied as follows:
a. The type of terrain in Monterey Park adds
to the cost of trash collection, as do dump
charges in that area. Athens is serving
Montebello and Alhambra at a rate of $1.07
and $1.13 per residence, respectively.
b. Letters on file indicate that wheels, lids,
roll-out service, periodic cleaning, etc.,
are included in the bids of Athens, Toro,
and Tustin Disposal.
c. A barrel which can be mechanically loaded
is considered a bin or mechanically-loaded
container; Athens proposes to use mechanical
loaders. A manually loaded container of
barrel size would be inappropriate due to
possibility of back injuries, etc.
(City Attorney arrived at this point in the meeting,
7:50 p.m.)
Athens has accepted, in writing, any proper
container in any number that will hold 200
pounds.
d. The specifications state that a cost of
living increase based on the consumer price
index for this area is automatically included
only in that portion of the contract for which
the City is paying the contractor directly,
and does not apply to the portion of the con-
tract involving direct billing by the contractor
although Athens indicated that they would like
to have a similar provision in the commercial
section on bins.
e. Specifications require that during the life of
the contract, the contractor will not use
equipment in excess of five years old or which
fails to meet safety, appearance and mechanical
standards. Athens has indicated that they
would need temporary (90 days) waiver in order
to avoid having to rent new equipment to start
service pending delivery of new trucks in
several months.
Mr. Henry added that the City should pay $1.03 per
business just as it will be paying for residential,
since businesses are already paying taxes directly
or through lease hold.
Council Minutes
5/1/72 Page 4
Mr. Chuck Waltman of Toro Disposal Service
..... a~rted that~Qity staff used incorrect figures
~n ~he commer~ia,1 can and extended~commercial"
service, and that Athens was permitted tO amend
their original bid. Occasionally reading excerpts
from his April 24 letter to the City, Mr. Waltman
stated that two areas of the bid analysis are
incorrect:
Category B-Commercial Can Collection. The City's
evaluation of Athens' figure is incorrect due to
equating a 200-pound pickup with a two-barrel
pickup. Average density of commercial trash in
Tustin must be.determined so that Athens' bid
based on number of barrels can be compared with
other bids based on 200-pound limit. Mr. Waltman
also challenged the City's assumption that
Athens meant "55-gallon drums" when they said
"barrels" in their bid; nowhere in that bid did
Athens indicate intended use of 55-gallon drums.
City ordinance forbids anything over 35 gallons,
as well as anything over 60 pounds; an empty
55-gallon drumweighs 30 pounds and could con-
rain'only 30 pounds of trash to be legalunder
the ordinance.
Category C-Commercial Bin Service. Mr. Waltman
stated that City analysis was based on incorrect
information as to the number of bins in the City.
Since City staff did not use figures contained in
Toro's comprehensive study on this, Mr. Waltman
offered to pa~ the cost of an independent audit;
he said that there has been no staff reply to
this proposal, contained in the April 24 letter.
Mr. Waltman then introduced Mr. Donald E. Frank,
Department'Manager, Solid Waste Management,
VTN Orange County, who prepared a report con-
cerning commercial portion of the bids on behalf
of Toro DisposalService.
Mr. Donald E. Frank, VTN Orange County, 2301 Campus
Drive,,Irvine, described background and qualifications
of his company, and read his May 1 letter to the
_~._-Counci~ on this matter, which generally supported
- Mr. Waltman's'Comments about barrel size and capa-
city and Athens' proposal, and discussed the figures
in the "Bid Su/nmary" attachments.
Mr. Arthur Nisson, Attorney, representing Toro
Disposal'SerVice, stated that the particular problem
with Athens' bid is in the matter of barrels, covered
in their Attachment 10, which lacks a description
of "barrel" or "container", and did not indicate
any weight limit. Mr. Nisson referred to an
April 18 letter from Athens to Mr. Blankenship
explaining their barrel service and mechanical
"barrel lift", and stated that this constitutes
a new bid. Athens' April 28 letter fails to clear
up-deliberate "ambiguities". He submitted that
Toro is the low bidder.
Ma~or C.Miller noted that in his experience, bids
with many qualifications, protests, etc. usually
indicate something wrong with the specifications,
and suggested rebidding under revised specifications.
Council Minutes
:'5/1/72 Page 5
Replying to Councilman L. Miller, Mr. Gill
described specification preparation and review
of draft specifications by potential contractors.
The staff felt that the specifications were clear
and there had been no indication otherwise from
contractors during the review process.
Replying to further.questioning by Councilman
L. Miller, Mr. Rourke stated that he was greatly
involved in'the preparation of the specifications
and that although experience with these bids would
probably be helpful in re-drawing the specifica-
tions, he did not feel that rejection of the bids
would necessarily be the solution to the problem.
In reply to Councilman Langley, Mr. Rourke explained
that no additional bids were accepted and that he
and the administrative staff had interpreted
Athens' bid to mean a certain thing (concerning
barrels', 200-pound limit, etc.) and had asked
Athens to confirm this by letter. There was also
a confirmation made relative to charges that are
considered extra charges such as roll-out service,
casters, lids, etc. It is felt that the best
interpretation of the Athens bid is that they
did intend to be bidding 200 pounds commercial
pickup at the rate that was specified, and this
was the confirmation received. Replying to further
questions, Mr. Rourke stated that he and the staff
undertook an analysis of the various possibilities
of bin distribution as they did not have a bin
count, and Athens was the lowest bidder in every
theoretical distribution of bins.
Mr. Leo Learn;, 824 N. Broadway, Santa Ana, repres-
enting Western Refuse Hauling, read a portion of
Western's letter of April 25, which maintained
that the bid documents were unclear as to speci-
fics,'and requested that the bids be rejected.
Mr. Adam Slining, 10851 Thorley, Santa Ana,
requested that a clearer set'of specifications
be drawn up.
Mr. Bud Holthe of Holthe Disposal Service stated
that the company has purchased $250,000 worth of
new equipment in the last nine months, and noted
that Athens" bid listed trucks of 1960's and older.
He said the Holthes' bid was higher because they
were basing the bid on the quality of service
they have been providing over the years. He
suggested rejecting all the bids.
Moved by Langley, seconded by Welsh that presenf
bids be rejected and that Alternative One be
redrawn in the specifications to eliminate questions
and controversy about what is being bid on.
'Mr. Holthe stated that they would be willing to
work with the staff about extending service until
a bid is awarded.
Above motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Rourke,replying to Mr. Saltarelli, stated thaE
all but one contractor (Toro) providing input for
the specifications were of the opinion that an
exclusive contract would be in order, for various
reasons.
Council Minutes
5/1/72 Page 6
....... T~ the MayOr's comment that having contracto~s-~
-~ .~.,~, ~i~ Q~t~i~e ,~ no~re~!Usi~e .might _result
that the qUestion'~i~ which method is most
advantageous to the City.
Mr. Gill reported that input inaicate~.that an
exclusive franchise ~s a "must" in today's market
and would provide a savings to the City. He
referred ~o four letters received from various
vendors attesting to the clarity of the speci-
fications. He replied to Mr. Langley's question
about lid and caster requirements.
General Ralp~ Yeaman, President of the Enderle
Gardens Homeowners Association, commended the
quality of Holthe's service and recommended: con-
sideration of their bid.
Mr. Waltman spoke against an exclusive contract.
Mr. Lou Gerding, 333 E1 Camino Real, Tustin, and
Mrs. Lee Wagner, 17331 Jacaranda, Tustin, also
spoke in support of Holthe Disposal Service.
Mayor Mille~ called a recess at 9:05 p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 9:16 p.m.
x.
NEW
BUSINESS 1. FINAL TRACT MAP 7750
Property located on east side of Yorba
Street, approximately 300 feet north of
Jacaranda Avenue.
.... Mr. Fleagle stated that the Planning Commission
reviewed this final tract map on April 24 and
found it in conformance with the tentative map
previously submitted, and had recommended approval
of the final tract map and that the Mayor and City
Cl'erk be authorized to execute the necessary docu-
ments subject to approval of the CC & Rs by the
City Attorney.
Mr. Fleagle explained, in reply to Council's
questions, that the commercial and professional
portions were approved for development by
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1256, and
UP-72-379 required dedication and improvement
of the total street system for the total area
indicated on the master plan prior to occupancy
of any building; this was to assure that the
commercial development would proceed as a coord-
inated whole. The optionee, Western Mortgage,
advised on April 28 that they have dropped the
option on the property, and Mr.French, the
original proponent, is still proceeding with
plans for development and_expects to complete the
project when financing is found.
The master plan for the entire area was submitted
to the Planning Commission and City Council and
was approved as submitted. As a condition of
Resolution No. 1243, the circulation system, street
right-of-way on all the adjoining property was ded-
icated and recorded and is now in the name of the
City.
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Moved by L. Miller, seconded by Sa!tarelli
~hat Final Map of Tract 7750 be approved and
the Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to execut,,
the necessary documents, subject to approval o~
~he ~C & Rs by the City Attorney. Carried
unanimously. .
XtI.
OTHER
BUSINESS 1. COUNTY ZC 72-22
It was the consensus of the Council that the
Planning Commission respond to the County Plan-
ning Commission on this matter, and that the
City Council Would respond to the Board of
· Supervisors when the case reaches that Body.
Councilmen will discuss the matter with Super-
visor Ralph Clark a.t the Breakfast Meeting on
May 5.
2. CITIZEN COMMENTS: MRS. LEE WAGNER
Mrs. Wagner thanked the Council for acting in a
~air manner on this evening's business.
XIII.
ADJOURNMENT Moved by Saltarelli, seconded by Langley that
the ~eeting be adjourned (9:30 p.m.). Carried
unanimously. -.