HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC MINUTES 1969 11 03 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN CITY COUNCIL
November 3, 1969
CALL TO Meeting called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Mayor COco.
ORDER
PLEDGE OF Led by Mayor Coco.
ALLEGIANCE
III.
INVOCATION Given by Councflman C. Miller.
IV.
ROLL Present: Councilmen: Coco, C. Miller, Marsters, L. Miller
CALL Absent: Councilmen: None
Others Present: City Administrator Harry E. Gill
City Attorney James Rourke
City Clerk Ruth Poe
Planning Director James Supinger
'*Mayor Coco welcomed students from Foothill High School
and Tustin Union High School. He explained that every
year the City has a Youth in Government program whereby
students observe government in action and also participate
in Council and Planning Commission meetings. Next
week the students will take part in the Planning
Commission meeting, and at the next regular Council
meeting they will act as the Councilmens' counterparts.
**Mr. Bob Phillips, Public Agency Representative of the
State Compensation insurance Fund, presented a plaque
to Mayor Coco. He explained that annually a safety
contest is sponsored by the California League of Cities
and Tustin placed first for not having any injuries
from July l, 1968 to June 30, 1969.
Mayor Coco stated that they were very proud of their
employees for the fine job they have done and hoped
next year would be as successful.
V.
APPROVAL OF Moved by L. Miller, seconded by C. Miller that the
MINUTES minutes Of the October 20, 1969 Council meeting be
'approved as corrected. Carried.
VI.
PUBLIC 1. APPEAL - UP 69-308 PBR COMPANY ON BEHALF OF
HEARINGS ZORRO INVESTMENT CO.
Appeal of the decision of the Planning Commission denying
application of PBR Company on behalf of Zorro Investment
Company for a use permit to permit the installation of
five (5) signs to identify a proposed service station
at the northeast corner of the intersection of Irvine
Boulevard (Fourth Street) and the Newport Freeway.
Proposed signs are:
1. A free-standing sign for surface traffic
with a height of 20 ft., area of 63 sq. ft.
per side, total area 126 sq. ft. and located
in the required front setback.
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2. A free-standing sign for freeway traffic
with a height of 35 ft., area of 308 sq. ft.
~,~ per side, total area of 616 sq. ft. and
located in the required front setback.
3. A Mobil "Pegasus" wall sign with an area
of 13 sq. ft.
4. A "Mobil Service" wall sign with an area
of 15 sq. ft.
5. A price panel sign to. be located on a pole
sign with an area of 15 sq. ft. per side,
total area of 30 sq. ft. and a minimum
height above grade of 8 ft.
Total sign area requested on the site is 800 sq. ft.
'Mayor Coco stated that the public portion of the
meeting was closed, but Council members could call
on the audience for questions they wanted answered.
He explained that the freeway sign was approved by
the Council, and this was not a matter of discussion.
He stated that a workshop was held by the applicants,
the Council, and interested members of the community
at which tithe the remainder of the signs were
discussed. He stated that the Council was now
interested in the specific details of the signs
to be approved at this location.
Councilman L. Miller asked if anyone affiliated
With this application had.any statements they would
like to make.
Mr. George Argyros, 17411 Irvine Boulevard, Tustin
recapped what was offered as a solution to the problem
of esthetic quality, together with the practical
application and the safety factor. He stated that
Mobil would be willing to move the Irvine Boulevard
identification sign. At the workshop, Mobil agreed
to a reduction of height and a sign 4' x 8' bordere~
in simulated wood and to reduce the illumination; the
price panel signs will be approved by the Development
Preview Committee; on the building instead of "Mobil
Service," there could be just the emblem of the flying
horse rather than any wording - keeping it clean and
fresh.
Mayor Coco stated that as a result of the workshop
Mobil agreed to reduce the free-standing sign on
Irvine Boulevard from 126 sq. ft. to 32 sq. ft. overall
and to remove the "Mobil Service" sign, and to make
the price panel signs portable and architecturally
pleasing with the building. He stated.that at this
time the workshop proposal was to encase the Irvine
Street sign in a simulated wood environment saying
"Mobil" on the front, and the lighting to be subdued.
Moved by C. Miller, seconded by Marsters that the
free-standing sign be placed in a planter over against
the freeway off-ramp instead of the center of the
development as had been offered by the developers;
that the sign be encased in a rustic wood casing of ~hich
the actual dimensions and details be approved by
the Development Preview Committee; that the overall
dimensions of the sign including the casing be 6' x 3', con-
forming to the relative proportions the standard Mobil sign
has; that the'maximum height of the sign be 9½' to the
top of the sign; that the appropriate lighting be
determined by visual inspection after erection of
the sign and be approved by the Development Preview
Committee; that the Mobil Service sign not be placed
on the building, but a 4' diameter pegasus sign be
allowed.
Councilman C. Miller stated that the Council may
want to amend the motion on the price panel sign
as he wasn't as well informed on this matter as he
felt he should be.
In answer to questioning by Mayor Coco, Councilman
C. Miller stated that the Development Preview
Committee would review the details of the construction
of the casing.
In answer to questioning by Mayor Coco on the price
panel sign, Councilman L. Miller stated that he and
Mr. Mack drove around to rev'iew some gas stations and
in Costa Mesa there was a service station with a.
wrought iron, rustic'type frame that could be compatible
with Fourth Street.
~ayor Coco stated that a motion and second had been
made, and the signs at this location have the following
seven conditions:
1. The Irvine Boulevard sign have the freeway off-
ramp location.
2. The Irvine Boulevard sign be encased in a rustic,
wood casing; the dimension of the casing to be
determined by the Development Preview Committee.
3. The overall dimensions of the free-standing sign
on Irvine on the corner location be approximately
limited to 18 square feet overall as determined
by Mobil and their needed proportions, which would
include the wood casing.
4. The maximum height to the top of the free-standing
sign to be 9½ feet.
5. The lighting intensity of this sign to be approved
by visual inspection of the Development Preview
Committee after erection of the sign.
6. The words on the wall sign, "Mobil Serviue," be
deleted on the building and that 4' diameter
pegasus be permitted on the building.
7.The price panel sign to be portable and of a
material compatible with the construction of
the building with an area limitation of 10 square
feet per side.
Councilman C. Miller questioned that if the overall
himensions of 18 square feet includes the frame,
wouldn't it inhibit the design of the frame,
Mayor Coco felt that if they approved the overall
dimensions of the sign, the developer could start
getting his sign built.
Councilman C. Miller stated that since the Development
Preview Committee meets every Thursday and their
building looks to be several weeks from completrlon,
there wouldn't be a big time lag. He felt that there
would be adequate time to come out even with the
Completion Of:the signs with the completion of the
Mayor Coco ~tated that out of all the Development
Preview Committee, Planning Commission and workshop
meetings Mobil had agreed to the smallest standard
sign that Mobil builds, and anything less than that
size would have to be custom built.
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Marster felt t at this location should
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be deserving of a custom made sign.
~yor Coco felt it was more expedious for the 'Council
to set a size for the sign, and leave the frame up
to the Development Preview Committee. He stated that
as the motion stands, the Development Preview Committee
can approve the dimensions of the casing, and this
will leave the applicant free to go to a sign company
to ~et his sign built.
Councilman C. Miller felt it was worth the wait because
the service station is some time from completion,
Motion carried without change. (3-1) Ayes: C. Miller,
Marsters, L. Miller. Noes: Coco. Absent: None.
May6r Coco stated that he voted no on Item No. 3 with
all the dimensions being 18 square feet as he felt
they could be more specific on this matter.
Councilman L. Miller stated that he concurred with
Mayor Coco, but rather than have any further delays
he would vote yes.
Mr. George Argyros asked Councilman C. Miller for a
clarification on the overall size of the sign.
Councilman C. Miller stated that the reason he made
the motion in the form that he did was that he felt
the overall size of the sign should be 18 square feet.
He didn't feel that he could tell what the dimensions
of the casing should be so that it would have that
rustic appearance, which the applicant said he would
be willing to provide.
Mr. George Argyros stated that it has cost him over
$2,500 for this signing, and he felt it was really a
problem when they passed him from one committee to
another.
2. ZC-69-195 - WILFRED TAYLOR AND ROBERT HALL
Application of Wilfred Taylor and Robert Hall
(ZC 69-195) for rezoning of a 1.52 acre parcel
from the R-1 (Single Family Residential) District
to the R-3 (2800) (Multiple Family Residential -
2800 sq. ft. of lot area per dwelling unit)
District.
Site fronts 220 feet on the sout~ side of Third Street,
300 feet on the west side of Pacific and 220 feet on
the north side of Main Street.
Councilman Marsters stated that he wished to abstain
on this application since he owns property in this area.
Mr. Supi~ge~ gave the staf~ report and stated that
the Commission recommended denial at their meeting
of October 13, 1969, for the following reasons:
1. The proposed zoning is for residential density
of 15 dwelling units per acre, nearly four
times the dwelling units per acre suggested by
the Tustin Area General Plan.
2. The City is presently studying the Tustin City
area, Of which the subject property ~s a part,
to determine if a change should be made in the
General Plan and zoning designations for the area.
3. There was insufficient evidence and facts
presented to the Commission to warrant a
change of zone at this time.
~gyor Coco stated that this is a new public hearing
and anyone wanting to comment to come before the
microphone and state your name, address and position.
Mrs. Barbara Torres, 645 West Third Street, Tustin,
spokeswomen for Mr. and'Mrs. Torres stated that more
than one-half of the dwelling units in Tustin are
multiple units, and she didn't feel that she wanted
Tustin to become a bedroom community. She stated
that a petition signed by 54 people had been sent to
the City opposing this application, and she felt that
prime consideration should be given each person -
whether they own one lot or ten lots. She commented
that the average working couple has two cars, which
would mean that this development would have around
80 cars and the area would be sieged with heavy traffic.
Mrs. Torres said she had spoken with real estate offices
and found there is a need for single family homes in this
area. She felt that apartments have their place, but
this is a established neighborhood and that this
development was not in the best interest of the people.
Mr. Bob Hall, 17452 Irvine Boulevard, Tustin, represent-
· ng the applicant, Mr. W. Taylor, stated that when
the petition was signed they were asking for 44 units,
but they are now asking for 24 units which would amount
to, if everyone had two cars, 48 cars. He presented
a plan to the Council showing the elevation they propose
to use and the open space created. He stated that
this property is bound on three sides by streets.
They have given this development a single family look,
facing all their residential units to the streets so
there are no backsides facing the streets. The recreatf'
and pool area are in the center of the project so it
will serve as a noise buffer. He stated they also h~vc
split the parking areas into three separate areas, have
divided walkways, given each unit a private patio.
The project will have 46 bedrooms with no more than
two bedrooms per unit. Rent will be in the area of
$200.00 per month. They will be appealing to couples
without children. 'He felt there would be less people
per square feet than if they had ten 4 bedroom homes
built. He stated Mr. Taylor has been unable to sell
his property and if he were to build ten homes for
rental purposes, it wouldn't work out economically.
Also, if ten homes were to be built there would be ten
driveway cuts whereas they have cut it down to three,
which will leave more street parking. Mr. Hall stated
they had interviewed some of the neighbors and found
they would rather see their development go in than a
nursery or rest home. Mr. Hall requested to change
their application to Planned Community Residential (2800)
and agreed that their plans be subject to those submitted
to the Council. He stated that Mr. Taylor has invested
about $350,000 in this project and felt if this request
is granted a very high standard will be set - considerir
the plottage, open space created, split parking, buffer
of noise, quality and-construction, etc.
Mr. John Bloom, 330 California Street, Tustin, stated
that he oppo.sed this development and asked ~or people
Mr. Wilfred Tayl0~D~nRplica.nt, stated that the neig]~bors
who are most d~r~ C01~erned with this program are the
church and the people on the adjoining sides. He stated
that the church has currently no objections and he read a
~t~er from Mr. and Mrs. Eels stating thei~.-~pproval.
There being no further objections or comments, Mayor Coco
closed .the public portion of the hearing at 8:50 P.M.
In answer to questioning by Mayor Coco, Mr. Rourke stated
that if the request or modification is to a PC-R-3 (2800)
zone then it would be in every way as restrictive as the
R-3 application.
In answer to questioning by Mayor Coco, Mr. Supinger
-clarified the number of R-1 lots that would be involved in
the 1½ acre parcel. He stated that there are ten existing.
lots which can be seen on the original plot plan that was sub-
mit~ed in one of the earlier staff reports. R-1 zoning does
not restrict the number of bedrooms. Mr. Supinger also
stated that the average population per apartment is 2½ person
per unit and 3.8 persons per unit for single family.
Councilman C. Miller felt that the central issue brought
out in the Planning Commission action and staff recommend-
ations is that it is a marked increase of density over what
is existing in the area. He stated that while this one
zone change considered by itself does not create problems of
utilities, traffic, etc., it does become a pattern for the
area and a problem which should be considered. He felt that
one zoning action should not be approved until the TNT Com-
mittee and the economic survey have been concluded and some
intelligent decision can be made whereby they can predict
the long range results. Further, he objected to referring
this back to the Planning Commission for another hearing
since the people have already been out for several hearings
and it is burdensome. The Council should make a decision
tonight.
Mr. Bob Hall stated they would have 22 two bedroom units
and do not see more than two people per unit, and the other
2 units are one bedroom and could have two people in those,
but some units will be occupied by single people. He stated
he didn't think it fair to use the average of 2½ persons
per unit for this development. He felt that they were below
average on the 2½. He stated that they have ten lots already
so that's ten units on an acre and one-half which is more
than 4 per acre already. If these were single story houses,
there could be five bedrooms per unit with a higher than 3.8
average.
Mayor Coco stated that if this proposal is 4 times the Tustin
Area General plan t~e fact remains it ~s more like 2½ times
what it could be developed under the existing R-1 on the
property with no changes whatsoever. Instead of talking
about 4 times the potential development of the property.
Under this proposal, whether it is R-3-2800 or PC-R-3-2800
· there can be no more than 15-units on an acre.
Councilman C. Miller stated that the Council should look
'~t this application in the long run twenty years from now.
He believed that'the Council should follow the recommendations
of the Planning Commission and staff on this matter, deferring
the action until the Council knows wha~ is best.
Moved by Coun~ilman C. Mille~ that the action of the
Planning Commission be upheld and this zone change be denied.
Motion died for lack of second.
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Moved by L. Miller, seconded by Mayor Coco for
discussion that ZC 69-195 be approved as submitted
tonight. (R-3-2800)
Councilman L. Miller stated that he would like to
see this application approved as there were no
objections from the church nor the adjacent property
owners abutting the property.
Councilman C. Miller stated that he hoped the Council
~ealized that they were setting the pattern for every
other p~ce of undeveloped property in this area.
Be felt there should be some additional requirements
added to the plan submitted, which would make t~
Council's action completely compatible and acceptable
to the existing residents and community.
Mayor Coco stated that he was under the impression
that Mr. Hall would be willing to enter into an agree-
ment with the property owners. He stated that~this
could be a condition of the approval.
Councilman L. Miller felt that architecturally this
development would upgrade and be an asset to the area
as opposed to the typical apartment development.
Mayor Coco stated that he would have difficulty in
voting for any proposal that would not prove to be an
asset to the community~ and he knew the problems the
City, landowners and h6meowners have in the core area
with fragmented ownerships. He stated that there
wouldn't be the problem of fragmented ownerships on
this 1½ acre parcel. He felt that this development
could work out to be a'benefit to the area. The home-
owners are evidently divided - this proposal could
possibly avoid an objectional use in this area in the
future.
Councilman C. Miller stated that in examining the site
plot plan he was not nearly so impressed with the open
.spaces because a g-teat portion of it will be covered
with parking, most of the units are 15 feet or so apart
(same width as the front yards on Main Street), some
are less than that from each other. He felt 16 families
per acre to be too much relative to d~nsity. He felt
we couldn't expect this to be much different in
character than some of the garden apartments around the
City.
Mayor Coco questioned if it was ~ecessary for the
applicant to get approval on his lot layout relative
to the subject o~ density and Mr. Supinger replied that
it is basically up to the City Council. He felt from
past experience and action, the Development Preview
Committee would be very limited as to the changes that
they could reasonably make in this plan unless the City
Council made it specifically clear that a use permit
was required for the approval of specific plans at a
later date. He stated that if the City Council approves
the package as submitted, there would be no further'
use permit procedure required for the approval of specif:
plans, and the Development Preview Committee would be
rather limited as to the approval process through which
they could make revisions to the plan. The Council
sh~l~ m~ ~ ~ea~ ~ha~ specific plans a~e no~ appr~ved
~= ultimate devele~munE, an~ ~he Council may wish to
stipulate that a use permit is required and these plans
could be the starting point.
Council Minutes
Councilman C. Miller felt it would be well for
the Planning Department to draw up a list of developments
within and without thc City that are about the same
~ensity - 16 units per acre - before they ac~=upon
the application. He stated the development should be
as compatible with single family units as possible with
covered parking for two cars since one of the major
objections to the application was cars parking on the
street. He felt the setback lines should be equal or
should meet the setback lines of the neighboring set-
backs. He felt the Council should explore thoroughly
what kind of requirements should be set on a multiple \
unit to be compatible with R-1. He cited Dick Smith's
Broadmoor apartments as a good example of R-1 compatibility.
Councilman L. Miller stated he would withdraw his
motion based on Mr. C. Miller's request and suggested
deferral until a study can be made for the next meeting.
Mayor Coco stated that once a motion is made and
secondedit becomes the property of the floor and
there has to be unanimous rejection in order to with-
draw the motion from discussion.
Councilman C. Miller felt the Council should examine
some of these projects with Bob Hall, Art Charleton
and interested parties some Saturday morning. Basic
consideration is the density, parking and open space.
The first study should be what the density is~going to
be if going to.haVe multiple in this area and must
consider the traffic problem as well as utility problems.
Mayor Coco agreed that more restrictions were needed,
but he didn't feel that very much wouldbe gained by
deferral. He stated that the TNT Committee did no~
expect to have ~ny immediate results either.
Above motion for approval amended to include the
requirement for a conditional use permit and consideration
to be given to two story units allowing for additional
green area and the City have close architectural and
landscaping control.
Motion carried. Ayes: Coco, L. Miller. Noes:
C. Miller. Abstained: Marsters.
~ayor Coco called a five minute recess. -Meeting
reconvened at 9:50 P.M.
3. PZ 69-120 - ZINK CONSTRUCTION INC.
Application Of Zink Construction Inc., for
prezoning (PZ 69-120) Of a parcel totalling
approximately 4.25 acres to the PC~R-3 (2600)
(Planned Community - Multiple Family Residential -
2600 sq. ft. of lot area per dwelling unit) District.
Site fronts,approximately 610 ft. on the southwest
side of Irvine Boulevard and approximately 305 ft.
on the northwest sideof Red Hill Avenue.
Mr. Supinger gave a staff report and stated that at the
Planning Commission meeting of October 13, 1969, the
Commission recommended denial of this application for
the following reasons:
1. The propOse~ zoning would permit a density
of 16.75 dwelling units per acre, more than
four t~mes the Medium Residential (4 d.u./acre)
suggeste~ by~ the Tustin Arca General Plan.
Council Minu~cs
2. The proposed rezonlng would result in spot
zoning of multiple family residential use
surrounded by single family residential uses.
3. The subject parcel can be developed under
the existing '(R-l) zoning.
Hearing opened at 9:51 P.M.
Mr. William Zink, President of Zink ConstruCtion,
k7461 lrvine Boulevard, Tustin, stated that their --
development is a one story garden apartment; rental
of $210 - $245.00; shake roofs; large living rooms
and kitchens; eight feet wide fireplace with gas'log
lighting; two full baths; private patios; forced air
furnace and central air conditioning, and open areas
landscaped for individual privacy. He stated that he
couldn't go into an R-3 area for economic reasons, and that
he is trying to build a higher class apartment, and
they can't mix into an area where they have two stories
with a lot of children. Mr. Zink stated they ~fe
appealing to the couple whose children have gone to
college and they no longer want the upkeep of a home
yet want to live in a nice apartment an the City.
He explained that their units are three bedrooms, but
the way they are designed they are two bedrooms and
a den. He stated that there are 17 lots which border
this property, and they have contacted almost all
of these people, and there was only one woman who
objected because of the traffic the development would
create. He requested a PC 2800 instead of a PC 2600.
He stated this would eliminate several units and give
them the two parking places per unit.
Mr. Frank Marcus, 1422 Garland Avenue, Tustin, stated
that they would abide by any remarks that they made
during the last Planning Commission meeting. They
heartily agreed with the Planning Commission's
recommendation because they saw that this was strictly
an R-1 area. Mr. Marcus was very concerned with the
traffic problem that would be created and stated
within the past two weeks there have been two very
serious accidents in this area.
Mrs. Irene Pelleriti, 1411 Garland, Tustin, stated
that she is not alone in opposing this development,
and there are many neighbors who have opposed this
development from the beginning. She stated that she
thought she was the one woman Mr. Zink was referring
to in opposing this applicationl
There being no further objections or comments, the
hearing was declared closed at 10:07 P.M.
Councilman Marsters stated that he was concerned with
the spot zoning a~pect. He felt that the area was
very compatible with R-1 deyelopment and would be best
suited for that purpose. He noted that the County of
Orange had commented that this area would be best
suited and developed for slngle family development.'
In answer to.questioning by Councilman Marsters,
'Mr. Supinger stated that the nearest commercial area
to that section is Tustin Heights Shopping Center,
~hi~h tS p~bl~ ~ li~%t~ less than a quarter Of mile
away.
Moved by Councilman Marsters, seconded by Councilman
L. Miller that PZ 69-120 be denied. Carried. Ayes:
Coco, C. Miller, Marstots, L~er. Noes: None
Absent: None.
4, VARIANCE NO. 69-259 - APPEAL OF THE DECISION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION - WORLD HANDICRAFTS, INC.
~ Appeal of tile decision of tile Planning Commission
· !. denying Variance Application No. 69-259'~E<World
Handicrafts, Inc. on behalf of Terrance T. Lindstrom
to permit the operation of a retail business with
less than the required off-street parking spaces
required by the Ordinance.
Site fronts 68 ft. on the southeast side of Newport
" Avenue approximately 240 ft. northeast of the center-
line of Mitchell Avenue and is thelocation of existing
~tructure numbered 14192 Newport Avenue.
· Fur. Sup~nger gave the staff report.
Mayor Coco opened the public portion of the hearing
at 10:13 P.M.
Mrs. Jean Adams, Saddleback Realty, 181 E1 Cami~o
Real, Tustin, representing World Handicrafts for
Terrance Lindstrom and Randall Robertson, stated that
she has had an opportunity to work on and see many
pieces of property in old downtown Tustin sit vacant
and deteriorate because they couldn't conform to the
new codes, primarily parking spaces. She felt
that the area was a depressed area and would cause
.the owner misery, suffering and anxiety. The
proper/ty has been vacant for a year and has proved
to be inviting to vandalism. She stated that the
owner purchased the property in 1960 with the intention
of living in the house. He spent a considerable
amount of money to make the house presentable to live
in and was advised by the City on the day that he was
to move into the house that he could not because it
was zoned C-1. She stated that World Handicrafts has
a good~type of business to offer to our City, and felt
this building could.be made attractive. This building
should be considered for the same type of parking as
furniture stores because basically the ltems which are
sold are considered accessories for the home. World
Handicrafts would not need as many parking spaces as a
regular retail store. She stated that she had driven
around the older part of town and hadn't seen any
parking or traffic problems and these businesses have
no off street parking. A revised plan was given to
Mr. Supinger for-the parking, and it is possible for-
the cars to back into the center of the property without
backing out into the street. Mrs. Adams stated that
if this variance isapproved, World Handicrafts would
be willing to meet all the other requirements to bring
this property up to the standard code and it would
certainly be an improvement over the eyesore ~hat has
been there. If the owner were denied tile variance, he
would probably qualify for tax relief due to a hardship
and then our City would be losing precious tax dollars.
Mr. Randall Robertson., General Manager of World tIandi-
crafts, 14192 Newport Avenue, Tustln, stated that
if the variance is granted they would overa length of
time conform the facade of the building to the Spanish
atmosphere of the City.~ He felt that a well-kept
business is a. successful business.
Mr. Terrance Lindstrom, President of World IIandicrafts,
14192 Newport Avenue, Tustin, _stated by just moving
in a few pieces of statues they ]lad received enthusiasm
from many people and most of their customers come in
groups instead of each driving one car.
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Mr. Randall Ro],c'~rt:;on pointed out that at their
Hunt'i'i~gton ]5cach [;tore they have 3,000 square feet
with only thref} off-street parking spaces and a loading
dock space in the back, and they have. not suffered a
parking problem there. lie stated that there are some
alternatives which could be used, if necessary, by
tearing out their workshop or the garages.
Mr. Anthony Capella, owner of the property, stated
that he had tried to sell, lease and had listed his
property with three different agencies who were unable --
to do anything. He replied that they have promised
· to dedicate the 20 feet of right-of-way to the ~ity,
and install curb, sidewalks, etc.
Mayor Coco closed {he public portion of the hearing
at.10:31
In answer to questioning by Councilman Marsters,
Mr. Robertson stated that he was drawn to the property
because it was a good sound business location for their
business.
Councilman C. Mill'er stated that he didn't see any
reason to take the room off the end of the building
because there'would still not be adequate space to
get. people in and out.
Councilman L. Miller felt the area currently is a
blight, but he felt th~ variance is justified because
it could be made into a successful business area.
~ayor Coco stated the variance being ~pplied for is
permanent and the use permit will be good as long as
the tenant remains and chooses to exercise it. He
felt there were two basic problems - the appearance
and parking problem. He'felt that if the business is
successful, this would just add to the basic parking
problem. He stated the more successful you become, the
more imperative it will become to have more parking
spaces.
Councilman Marsters suggested putting a time limit
on the variance. .This would give them time to see
if more parking spaces were needed. He suggested a
time period of six months.
Sharing of parking spaces with adjoining owners was
discussed. Mr. Gill felt that'the sharing of spaces
would create hardships if one bu~zness wanted to re-
locate and this would leave the other owner without
the required parking spaces.
Mayor Coco discussed the possibility of having only
one cut for ingress and egress.
Mr. Gill felt the City Engineer could develop a
practical plan for traffic safety with the intent
of obtaining as many parking spaces as possibl~ and
the Development Preview Committee could come u~ with
the best ideas in the interest of the City.
~_uI~.<~..C~_ Mi~e~felt it should be stipulated that
and they should accept the applicant's comment that
he would fix up the building subject to the aRproval
of the Development Preview Co~nittee.
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In an~wer to queG~joning by Mayor Coco, M~:. Rob~!rl:::on
state~ that they have three piece~ of large statuary
in the front 'yard, but when they are properly placed
~'~ are not garish. They are made Of concrete and
are an asset to the property although he concurred
with the Council that there should not be wall-to-wall
statues, he felt there shoul=d be something out front
for identification.
Councilman:C. Miller suggested that a continuation of
a temporary use permit be ~ssue~ and the Development
'Preview Committee take a look at the statues and fountains
and the City Engineer work out the best traffic.safety,
and they declare~themselves willing to forego parking
spaces that are going to be unsafe. He felt if there
is a parking hardship, the applicant would be creating
it more for himself than the City.
Moved by Councilman L. Miller, seconded by C~ Miller
that Variance 69-259be permitted subject to the
approval of the Development Preview Committee, City
Engineer and staff recommendations. Carried 4-0.
5. APPOINTMENT OF A MEMBER'TO THE TUSTIN PLANNING
COMMISSION (Term to expire November 15, 1973).
Mayor Co'co opened the public portion of the hearing at
11:15 P.M.
Councilman Marsters stated that he felt strongly that
Mr. Mahoney had do'nean outstanding job and would like
to see him re-appointed~
Moved by Councilman Marsters, seconded by Councilman
C. Miller that Resolution No. 1030 appointing Rollin
Mahoney to the Tustin Planning Commission for a term
expiring November ~15, ~973 be read by title only.
Carried unanimously.
Moved by Marsters, seconded by L. Miller that Resolution
· - · No. 1030 be passed 'and ;adopted. Carried~by roll call.
Ayes: Coco, C. Miller~ Marsters, L. Miller. Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Mayor Coco s~ated that the work of Mr. Mahoney has
been the deciding factor, and they have'been pleased
with his performance. He explaiped that any appointment
iS one on the basis of merit.
~II.
OLD 1. ORDINANCE NO. 448 - second reading
BUSINESS
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA,
AMENDING THE REAL PROPERTY TRANSFER TAX ORDINANCE
OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN.
Moved by Councilman Marsters, s~Conded by L. Miller that
Ordinance No. 448 have second readin~ by title only'.
Carried unanimously.
_ Moved by Councilman L. Miller, seconded by Marsters
that Ordinance No. 448 amendinq the real property
transfer tax ordinance' of the City of Tustin be passed
and adopted. Ayes:~ Coco, C. Miller, Marsters, L. ~'i'~ler.
Noes: None. ~bsont: None.
Council Minutes
2. ORDINANCE NO. 449 second reading
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA,
AMENDING THE TRAFFIC ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN
RELATIVE TO PEDESTRIANS.
Moved by Marsters, seconded by L. Miller that Ordinance
No. 449 have second reading by title only. Carried
unanimously.
Moved by Councilman L. Miller, seconded by Councilman
Marsters that Ordinance No. 449 amending the traffic
· ordinance of the City of Tustin relative to pedestrians,
be passed and adopted. Ayes: Coco, Marsters, ~. Miller.
Noes: C. Miller. Absent: None.
Councilman C. Miller stated that he fel~ this ordinance
was unenforceable.
VII.
NEW 1. ORDINANCE NO. 450 - first reading
BUSINESS
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA,
AMENDING THE TUSTIN CITY CODE RELATIVE TO
CONSTRUCTION AND REPAIR OF BUILDINGS, AND NOISE.
Moved by Councilman C. Miller, seconded by Councilman
'L. Miller that Ordinance No. 450 amending the Tustin
'City Code'relative to construction and repair of buildings,
and noise have'first r~ading by title only. Carried
unanimously.
2. RESOLUTION NO. 1028
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING AND REVISING PROVISIONS
OF THE 1969-70 CITY BUDGET RELATIVE TO COMPENSATIONS
AND REIMBURSEMENT OF EXPENSES.
It was the consensus of the Council that the following
expense reimbursements should be established:
Parks & Recreation CommisSion: Chairman $25.00 per month
Member $20.00 per. month
Planning Commission Chairman $40.00 per month
Member $35.00 per month
Development Preview COmmittee Chairman $30.00 per month
Member $25.00 per month
Moved by Councilman L. Miller, s~conded by Marsters
that Resolution No. 1028 amending and revising provisions
of the 1969-70 City Budget relative to compensations
and reimbursement of expenses by passed and adopted.
Ayes: Coco, C. Miller, Marsters, L. Miller. Noes:
None. Absent: None.
3. AMENDMENT TO COUNTY AGREEMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION
OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON RED HILL AVENUE. (Nisson,
Mitchell, Walnut and Sycamore Avenues.)
Moved by Councilman C. Miller, seconded by Councilman
L. Miller that the amendment to the agreement with
~he County of Orange, for traffic signals on Red Hill
Avenue ~e include the Mitchell Avenue intersection be
execute said agreement., Carried"'~h~ahimou~ly.
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4. CONSIDERATION OF JOINT PARK DEVELOPMENT AT HELEN
ESTOCK SCHOOL WITII TUSTIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
Moved by Councilman C. Miller, seconded by Councilman
Marsters that this matter be deferred until the next
~.~ ....=I regular Council.meet'~g of November 17, 1969.
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5. CONSIDERATION OF JOINT PARK DEVELOPMENT ON NISSON
WITH ACACIA ENTERPRISES, INC.
Moved by Councilman C. Miller, seconded by Councilman
L. Miller that=theCity enter in£o an agreement for '
the joint developme~f~t'~prop0sed p'~ 5~tlined
and the Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to execute
this agreement and the lease for the property;' and [at
the lease payment of $100.~per year and the City's
~hare of construction of $9,175.00 be budgeted from
unappropriated reserve. Carried unanimously.
6. REVISED CITY FEE SCHEDULES
a) ORDINANCE NO. 451
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA,
AMENDING THE TUSTIN CITY CODE AND THE ZONING
ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE NO. 157 AS AMENDED,
RELATING TO CITY FEES.
b) RESOLUTION NO. 1029
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA, ESTABLISHING CERTAIN
FEES AND SERVICE CHARGES.
Movedby Councilman C. Miller, seconded by Councilman
Marsters that this matter be deferred until the nex~
regular Council meet~'i'~'~f November 17, 1969.
7. APPROVAL OFDEMANDS
'Moved by Councilman L. Miller, seconded by Councilman
'C. Mil'ler~that demands in the amount of $73,527.85 be
'approved and p'a'~..~rried unanimously.
IX.
OTHER '1. Letter Requesting Temporary Use Permit for Martin
BUSINESS Perfit, 190 E~ Camino Real, Tustin (Brancusi)
Movedby Councilman L~ Miller, s~conded by Councilman
C. Miller that temporary use permit be granted until .
such time as th~ final action.is taken~h the use permit
request to be approximately 15 December. Carried
unanimously.
2. Request from Norman Halus, Planning Commission
Chairman to have seven members attend California
Chapter of American Institute of Planners Conference
in San FrancisCo for two days.
Councilman C. Miller felt to send seven Conunissioners
to this conference was a needless expense. He stated
they have been attending classes here inthe County.
Councilman L.' Mille~ felt we should send the Commissioners
to the Conference as they might learn some.solutions to
our problems.