HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC MINUTES 1968 11 04 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN CITY COUNCIL
November 4, 1968
CALL TO Meeting called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Mayor Coco.
ORDER
II.
PLEDGE OF Led by Mayor Coco.
ALLEGIANCE
III.
INVOCATION Given by Mayor Coco.
IV.
ROLL Present: Councilmen: Coco, Mack, Klingelhofer,
CALL Miller, Marsters
Absent: Councilmen: None
Others Present: City Administrator Harry Gill
City Attorney James Rourke
City Clerk Ruth Poe
Planning Director James Supinger
V.
APPROVAL Moved'by Miller, seconded by Klingelhofer that --
OF MINUTES minutes of October 21st meeting be approved.
Carried.
VI.
PUBLIC 1. ZC 68-186 OF G.L.A. DEVELOPMENT COMPANY ON
HEARINGS BEHALF OF UNITED CALIFOFCNIA BANK.
Application for rezoning Of an 0.33 acre portion
of a parcel totalling 4.04 acres which fronts
approximately 292 feet on the north side of
First Street frQm the R-3 (Multiple Family
Residential) District to the C-1 (Retail Commercial)
District. Proposed rezoning runs the full width
of the property for a depth of approximately
55 feet on the north side of the existing
building occupied by Shak~y's Pizza Parlor.
Hearing opened at 7:32 P.M.
There being no comments or objections, the hearing
was declared closed at 7:33 P.M.
Councilman Marsters stated that he would abstain
from voting on this matter.
Moved by Miller, seconded by Mack that Zone Change
68-186 of G.L.A. Development Company for United
California Bank be ap_proved and the City Attorney
directed to draf~ the necessary Ordinance. Motion
carried Councilman Marsters abstained.
VII. 1. ORDINANCE NO. 421
OLD
BUSINESS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA,
REZONING PROPERTY ON APPLICATION NO. ZC 68-185
OF CROSS
Rezoning property fronting 150 feet on the north
si~e of First Street, approximately 180 feet east
of the centerline of Prcspect Avenue from C-1 to
C-2 Zcne,
Council Minutes
11/4/68 Pg. 2
Movedby Miller, seconded b~ Marsters that
Ordinance No. 421 have second reading by title
only. Carried unanimously.
Moved by Mack, seconded by Klingelhofer that
Ordinance No. 421~ rezoning property on application
No. ZC 68-185 of Cross, be passed and adopted.
Carried by roll call. Ayes: Coco, Mack, Klingelhofer,
Miller, Marsters. Noes; None. Absent: None
2. ORDINANCE NO. 422
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA,
PREZONING PROPERTY ON APPLICATION NO. PZ 68-111
OF BOLYARD.
Prezoning to R-3-1500 property fronting approxi-
mately 94 feet on the southwest side of Nisson,
60 feet on the eas~ side of Pasadena, and 60 feet
on the nortk side of Myrtle, in the South Tustin
area.
Mo~ed by Mack, seconded by Miller that Ordinance
No. 422 have second reading by title only~ Carried
unanimously.
Moved by Mack~ seconded by Marsters that Ordinance
No. 422, prezoning property on Application PZ 68-111
of Bolyard, be passed and adopted. Carried by roll
call. Ayes:'Coco, Mack, Klingelhofer, Miller,
Marsters. Noes: None. Absent: None.
3. AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND BOLYARD RELATIVE
TO CERTAIN CONDITIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
PROPERTY DESCRIBED IN PZ 68-111.
Moved by Miller,'seconded by Mack that the Mayor and
City Clerk be authorized to execute the agreement
with Bolyard. Carried.
4. RESOLUTION NO. 968
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 840
RELATIVE TO COUNCIL POLICY NO. 20-4 AND COUNCIL
POLICY NO. 20-8 (Special Leaves of Absence and
Holidays, and Extended Travel).
Moved by Klingelhofer, secondeddy Mack that Resolution
No. 968 be read by title only. Carried unanimously.
Moved by Marster~, seconded by Mack that Resolution
No. 968, amending Resolution No. 840 relative to
'~uncil'Policy No. 20-4 and Council Policy No. 20-8,
be passed and adopted. Carried by roll call. Ayes:
Coco, Mack, Klingelhofer, Miller, Marsters. Noes:
None. Absent: None.
5. RESOLUTION NO. 969
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA, FINDING, DETERMINING AND
DECLARING THAT A MAJORITY PROTEST HAS BEEN MADE
ON THE FOURTH STREET AND NEWPORT FREEWAY ANNEXATION.
(Approximately ~.63 acres on the west side of
Yorba Street at Fourth ~treet.)
Council Minutes
11/4/68 Pg. 3
Moved by Miller, seconded by Klingelhofer.that
Resolution No.' 969 be read bY title only.
Carried unanimously.
Moved by Marsters, sec6nded by Mack that Resolution
No. 96~, finding, determining and declaring that
a majority protest has been made on the Fourth
Street and Newport Freeway Annexation, be.p~ssed
and adopted. Carried by roll call. Ayes: Coco,
Mack, Klingelhofer, Miller, Marsters. Noes: None.
Absent: None.
6. RESOLUTION NO. 960
A RESOLUTION DECLARING THAT PROCEEDINGS HAVE
BEEN INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TUSTIN, TO ANNEX TO SAID CITY CERTAIN UNIN-
HABITED TERRITORY DESCRIBED HEREIN, AND DESIG-
NATED AS "RED HILL AVENUE - MITCHELL AVENUE
NORTH ANNEXATION" TO THE CITY OF TUSTIN, AND
GIVING NOTICE OF THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION.
Moved by Miller, seconded by Mack that action on
Resolution No. 960, initiating proceedi~
"Red Hill Avenue Mitchell Avenue North Annexation"
be deferred to the December 2nd Council meetinq.
Carried.
7. ORDINANCE NO. 415
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA,
REZONING PROPERTY OF FREDRICKS ON APPLICATION
NO. ZC 68-179.
Property located Northeast of McFadden and the
Newport Freeway.
Moved by Mack, seconded by Miller that Ordinance
No. 415 have second'reading by title only. Carried
unanimously.
Moved by Mack, seconded by Klingelhofer that
Ordinance No. 415, rezoning property of Fredricks
on Application ZC 68-179, be passed and adopted.
Carried by roll call. Ayes: Coco, Mack, Klingelhofer,
Miller, Marsters. Noes: None. Absent: None.
8. PROPOSED WINTER RECREATION PROGRAM OF THE PARKS
AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Staff report and excerpt'ofOctober 30th meeting of
the Parks and Recreation Commission presented.
Mayor Coco stated that as a result of several meetings
held, there Is now a recommendation for a $3,800
transfer from the Unappropriated Reserve~
Mrl Gilt stated that there had been discussion relative
to the band being somewhat self-sustaining. The
excursions for children, adults and senior citizens
would be from budgeted money and would be open to
City residents on a no fee basis.
Councilman Mack stated that it bothers him to be
acting on the request of $3,800 which is not budgeted
After sitting through the Parks and Recreation work-
shop, it appears that when people are interested in
specific things such as the type of things presented,
most people are willing to pay a small price for
Council Minutes
11/4/68 Pg. 4
this. With the possibility of the situation
that could develop from the election, it appears
ihat the Council may be acting on something they
would be sorry for. Councilman Mack said he
would prefer to see the Council hold off on this
item.
Mr. Gill stated that this matter could be deferred
to the second meeting in November and still have
time to get any announcements out through the
schools the first week in December.
In answer to questioning by Councilman Miller,
Mr. Koch Of the Parks and Recreation Commission
stated that it had been part of the Commission's
discussions to hold off on teeh dances until after
basketball season, but there have been requests
for teen activities on nights of away games and the
Commission had left this to the discretion of the
Police Department. The dances are self-sustaining.
Councilman Miller said he did not see the need for
excursions during the school year, and the City
might do better to conserve funds for a better
summer program.
Councilman Klingelhofer stated that the Senior
Citizens seemed to receive more value from the
excursions than any other group that voiced their
opinions at the workshop meeting. These excursions
during the winter months would involve them more
than it would the youth. It may be possible that
this could be worked out'on a cost basis. The
recreation department could act as a vehicle in
making these possible through the organization of
it. Councilman Klingelhofer said he felt it would
be best to defer any further action at this time.
Moved by Klinge!hofer, seconded by Mack that the
Council defer any'action on this program until the
next regular Council meetinq. Carried.
Councilman Klingelhofer stated that the open meeting
held was a good one, well attended, and a good cross
section of community people were present. From this
meeting, it seems that it would be ideal to have a
community recreation leadership con~ittee or a Tustin
recreation study committee, and have it composed of
not only representatives from the Parks and Recreation
Commission, but also the Senior.Cftizens, P.T.O.'s,
etc. Other community oriented people who have,
through past activities, proven an interest in the
community and maybe a good many teenagers who could
be asked on occasion to present their ideas, would
also like to serve. There were some of the best
ideas presented at the meeting by the teenagers.
This was a meeting where everyone had an opportunity
to say how they felt about recreation and it seemed
that there was ~ sufficient amount of interest that
if this committee could be formed, the very answers
that our Parks and Recreation Commission are searching
for might evolve.
Mr. Gill was asked to carry these suggestions to the
Parks and Recreation Commission.
Council Minutes
11/4/68 Pg. 5
VIII.
NEW 1. FINAL MAP, TRACT 6595, STANDARD PACIFIC CORP.
BUSINESS
Location: Fronts 33S feet on the northeast
side of Walnut Avenue, approximately 800 feet
west of Browning.
Moved by Mack, seconded b~Y Marsters that Final
Map of Tract No. 6595 be ap2roved and the Mayor
and City Clerk authorized to execute the necessary
documents. Carried.
2. AMENDMENT OF DECLARATION OF COVENANTS, CONDITIONSI
AND RESTRICTIONS OF BROADMOOR PARK HOMES.
Tract No. 5234 - 1241 East First Sireerr Tustin
Moved by Miller, seconded by Klingelhofer that the
Third ~mendment to Declaration of Covenants,
Conditions and Restrictions of Broadmoor Park
Homes be approved and the Mayor and City Clerk be
authcrized to execute said amendment. Carried.
3. APPEAL BY MUTUAL LIQUID GAS & EQUIPMENT COMPANY
OF STAFF DECISION ON LOCATION OF LPG TANKS AT
NEWPORT AND EDINGER.
Mr. Gill, in recappin~ the information available,
stated ~hat this is a matter of installation of a
facility which does not meet the requirements of
the City Fire Code. The Council therefore, sitting
as a Fire 'Appeal Board~ may take the opportunity-to
review the staff action and the app!icant's appeal,
and support or reverse the application of the Code
by the City staff. Mr. Gill showed a slide of the
property and pointed out the location of the tanks
and explained th~ problem of the proximity to property
lines and the location and size of existin~ utility
easements. He stated that the tank could have been
built prior to the Newport Avenue abandonment under
the conditzons of Newport as a street. With the
abandonment of Newport, the property line became
the centerline of Newport.
Fire Chief Morgan Hilton stated that at the time this
went before the Plannin~ Commission, the 60 feet shown
on the map was ~8 feet. ~t that time, they could have
placed the tank 10 feet back of the s~dewalk. With
Newport ~venue abandonment, the~ now require tanks
placed 50 feet from property which could be built
upon. The Fire Code referred to in his report is
the 1962 National Fire Code. The 50 foot separation
from a property line or building is ~ustified by
the dan~er of radiation of heat and source of ignition.
Mr. Melvin Moore, Vice President of Mutual Liquid
Gas and Equzpment Company, Inc., stated that this
installation is partly in the County and partly in
the City. The County of Orange Division of Industrial
Safety has approved this installation. The industry
always uses easements for keeping distance away
from buildings- The California Edison Company has
a 25 foot easement either side of their poles and
the Water Works has a franchise coverin~ the area
Council Minu~es
11/4/68 Pg. 6
of the street and they have submitted a letter
stating that there will be no buildings in that
area. The Santa Ana Irrigation District also.
has an easement. Usually when using easements,
at any such time as there are buildings'put up
or easements abandoned, fire walls an~ sprinklers
are installed. The DiviSion of Industrial Safety
mentions that tanks may be located a lesser
distance from buildings constructed of concrete
and masonite materials.
In answer to questioning, Mr. Moore stated as
follows:
It is maintained that these tanks are safer
than any gasoline tank.
The Orange County Fire Marshal and Fire Pro-
tection Analyst have approved the use of ease-
ments and that at any such time as abandoned
or built upon, fire walls and sprinklers are
to be installed.
If the tanks were located diagona~'.y on the
property, there would-not be sufficient turning
area.
His Company already owns the land and had
acquired it because of the railroad siding and
the easements, flood control channel and the
freeway.
He had not explored the possibility of obtaining
an agreement from the owner of the easement
property, stating that there would be no
buildings built on these easements for the life
of the storage tanks as he could not see Case
Swayne giving this agreement.
M~yor Coco stated that the City is facing th~
dilemma that they have a 50 foot limitation and
~ are being asked to consider that easemenets are
as good as non-build~ble pr6perty. A legal agree-
ment that the easement will not in fact be built
upon would remove the problem completely as far as
the Council is concerned. He felt that the Council
needed a legal resolution of this. On the one hand
they are told that an easement does not suffice,
and on the other hand, Mr. Moore says that he has
several instances of installations where the industry
has used easements to fulfill the code requirements.
Mayor Coco asked Mr. Moore if he had documented
..~ instances of cas~s within the jurisdiction of the
Los Angeles Fire Department where a situation like
· this exists, where an easement is necessary to be
used to' fill the code requirements. If this is true,
he felt that it might have an influence on the
Council's thinking. .
Mr. Moore stated that Leslie Benton, Orange County
Fire ProteCtion Analyst, could get all this infor-
mation, and the Orange County Fire Marshal and the
Chief have approved this installation, providing
there are no buildings on the easemen~-, and that at
such time as the easements are abandoned, fire walls
will have to be constructed and sprinkler systems
installed.
Council Minutes
11/4/68 Pg. 7
Mayor Coco stated that the Council has an obligation
to the City to act in a prudent manner as regards
possible future liability, in conformance with the __
Fire Code, but it ms possibly a short sighted
attitude to ignore the fact that other jurisdictions
are using easements in this manner.
In answer to questioning by Councilman Miller, Mr.
Rourke stated that it is possible to have overlapping
easements and the City could have an easement on top
of these easements for rights of entry and clearance.
The City coul condemn such an easement, but it would
require payment to the property owner. Mr. Rourke
also said that he would seriously doubt if you could
prohibit any further use of the' property at any time,
but you could impose further requirements such as
the sprinklers and walls. This could have problems
from the administrative standpoint, namely of later
trying to require something of someone and you are
apt to find yourself having to go to court. If
Mutual Liquid Gas were to voluntarily commit them-
selve's to building wall structure on any building
on. these easements and the2 declined {~ perform at
that time, then the City would have a problem where
they would have to go to court and get it enforced.
This would be one alternative, however.
Mr. Moore stated that the-Company would be willing
to provide the City with such an agreement;
Mr~ Rourke stated that if the Council were satisfied
that the interpretation that an easement is as good
as non-buitdable land, they could clarify the Code
to make it Clear that that is the meaning and intention.
.Mayor Coco felt that it would be unnecessary to
~larify if we were to obtain this sort of voluntary
agreement from the Company' to construct Wall~ and
sprinklers around future buildings. The'Company is
on record through Mr. Moore as being willing to
provide the City with that commitment.
Councilman Miller agreed that this would solve the
City's problem.
In answer to Councilman Miller, Mr. Rourke said that
there was no reason why accepting this kind of an
agreement would not be reasonable and prudent. The
only drawback to it at all could be in the rather
unlikely event that buildings were to be built and
if then the Company did not want to carry through
on the agreement:
-Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Miller that the
City Council, sitting as Fire Appeals Board, finds
and determines that the appl%cant may install and
locate a container for liquified gas, as shown on
the plot plan submitted with his application, pro-
vided that he enters into an Agreement with the City,
in a form satisfactory to the City Attorney and the
Fire Chief, which will. provide that in the event' of
construction of any buildings within fifty feet of
said tank, the applicant will cause tc be constructed
fire walls and other improvements, and that this
alternative is equally satisfactory and safe as
locating the tank fifty feet from any buildable
property line. Carried.
Council Minutes
11/4/68 Pg. 8
4. APPROVAL OF DEMANDS
Moved by Mack, seconded by Miller that demands
in the amount of $50,708.75 be paid. Carried.
IX.
OTHER 1. SIGN ORDINANCE REPORT
BUSINESS
Mr. Gill presented the Sign Ordinance report
with the suggestion that the Council set another
workshop on this matter and that perhaps an
overall, new approach to the problem should be
I considered. or, if it is the pleasure of the Council,
to refer the Ordinance to the ~lanning Commission
for public hearing.
Councilman Miller stated that with all sessions the
City has had on this, he would be in favor of
tryang to come up with a fresh approach.
Mr. Gill referred to the letter from Mr. Waldo,
Chief B~ilding Inspector, which states some of the
problems in administering ~he Sign Ordinance. It
has been a struggle and not much of it done by
voluntary action by the man applying for or installing
a sign. This matter is now with the City Council
and it as at the Council's discretion as to how they
want to approach the issue. As Mr. Waldo mentioned,
the portion relating to construction and structural
aspects in this OrdinAnce may just amplify the
problem i~ understanding.the Code. The structural
aspects for signs have never really been in debate
by anybody, and it may be that the Ordinance should
not include this. It would be relatively sample
to pull that portion out of the Ordinance. If
you want the staff to consider any revision of the
Ordinance, there is need for new direction as to how
they should procede[
Councilman Mack suggested that the Council hold a
workshop in the next week and attempt to arrive at
some direction for the staff so that in some way
the CoUncil can get this off the ground and resolve
the few problems that are left.
Friday naght, November 15th, at 7:30 P.M. in the
office of the Police Chief was set for a workshop
of the Council, one member of the Planning Con~ission,
one Chanter representative and the staff.
2. REQUEST FOR CROSSING GUARD - McFadden and Myrtle
Mayor Coco directed that this matter be referred to
the staff for study.
3. COMPLAINTS REGARDING CARNIVALS AT LARWIN SQUARE
Councilman Miller stated that he had received
complaints from residents in the area about the
number and frequency of carnivals. He had told
these residents to' direct a petition to the License
and Permit Board, the Chamber of Commerce, and
Larwin Square Merchants Association.
Council Minutes
11/4/68 Pg. 9
Mr. Con Adams, member of all three groups,
stated that there had been complaints about the
last two carnivals which had been much too
close together. They are now taking steps to
control the number as well as the frequency of
these carnivals.
4. APPOINTMENTS OF MEMBERS ON COMMISSIONS
~ouncilman Mack suggested that as there is always
the problem of the decision for appointment members
to Commissions when vacancies arls~ that these
applicants be asked for assistance when study groups
are set up. tf a person will willingly work on
any committee, it makes it easier to make appoint-
ments the next time.
5. YOUTH IN GOVERNMENT DAY
Councilman Mack recommended that rather than holding
mock Council and Planning Conmlission meetings for
the students to participa'te in, the students attend
and take part in regular meetings for at least a
part of each meeting wi~h their counterpart in
attendance.
Mrs. Poe was asked to contact both the Optimist
Club and the schools, and make the necessary
arrangements for all activities for Youth in
Go~erhment program.
6. Mr. Beckman of 665 West Third Street, stated
that both he and his wif~ enjoyed the carnivals and
suggested an Ordinance so that carnivals could be
held quarterly. Mr. Beckman also suggested that
for Youth in Government Day, we come through the
entire planning ~tages of a rezoning before it goes
to the Commission in order to get a complete under-
standing of the mechanics.
The following reports and correspondence received:
1. Resolution relative to Future Regional Airport
Facilities for Orange County - Newport Beach
2. Resolution relative to crossing of California -
Mexican Border by unaccompanied minors - Corona
3. Resolution relative to Return of Respect for
Law - Westminster
4. Resolution endorsing Proposition No. 7
Westminster &nd Brea
5. Resolution supporting Proposition No. 1-A -
Westminster and Brea
6. Urban Land - James SuRinger
X.
ADJOURNMENT Moved by Marsters, seconded b~ Mack that the meeting
be adjourned to a personnel session. Carried.
Council Minutes
11/4/68 Pg. 10
Those present at the personnel session were:
Councilmen Coco, Mack, Klingelhofer, Miller,
Marsters; City Administrator, City Attorney;
City Clerk.
Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Miller that
the meeting be adjourned. Carried.
MAYOR
CITY CLERK