HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC MINUTES 1966 11 21 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN CITY COUNCIL
November 21, 1966
CALL TO Me~ting called to order at 7:31 P.M. by Mayor Mack.
ORDER
PLEDGE OF Led by Mayor Mack.
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL Present: Councilmen: Mack, Klingelhofer, Coco, Miller,
CALL Ring
Absent: Councilmen: 'Nane
Others Present: City Administrator Harry E. Gill
City Attorney James G. Rourke
City Clerk Ruth C. Poe
Planning Director James L. Supinger
APPROVAL OF Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Coco, that minutes
MINUTES of the November 7, 1966, meeting be approved as
mailed. Carried.
V.
PUBLIC 1.. GENERAL PLAN
HEARINGS
TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF THE TUSTIN AREA GENERAL
PLAN. SAID PLAN IS A PROPOSED GUIDE TO THE GROWTH
AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE TWENTY SQUARE MILE TUSTIN
PLANNING AREA. THE PLAN INCLUDES A LAND USE ELEMENT
(RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND PUBLIC USES)
A SCHOOL AND PARK ELEMENT, AND AN ARTERIAL HIGHWAY
ELEMENT.
Hearing opened at 7:34 P.M.
Planning Director james Supinger gave a short back-
ground report including the recommendations of both'
the City and County Planning Commissions.
Mr. Ted Adsit, Planning Consultant, explained the
background of the General Plan study from the initial
steps in 1964 and the formation of the Citizens
Committee, through the many types of reviews and
economic analyses that have been made and the studies
held by both the City and the County of Orange. He
felt that this Plan would assure the area of a proper
economic base· Mr. Adsit also stated that this is the
first General Plan recommended by both City and County
Planning Commissions to the County Board of Supervisors
and City Council for adoption·
Mr. Supinger explained several elements of the plans
presented including land use, schools, parks and
recreation, and highway network systems, and showed
slides explaining the planning for the future· He
stated that the staff and the Commission feel this
is a good and practical plan and very important as a
common guide for development in the area by both the
City and the Council.
Council Minutes
11/21/66 Pg. 2
Mr. Harry Brand, 15661 Pacific Street, Tustin, stated
that although he is currently on the Tustin Planning
Commission, he wished to speak as an individual and,
as such, he objected to the zoning as shown in the
General Plan for the South Tustin Area. Mr. Brand
stated that initially this was meant to be a residential
community and that the slides just shown indicated
approximately 50% will be apartment dwellers. This
he felt was not a residential community in the sense
that was expressed two years ago. He objected to high
density being delegated to a specific area as this
has a tendency to create slums of the future and is
a degradation of property values. Mr. Brand said
he would like to see this plan show medium high density.
Mr. M. O'Malley, 14681 Charloma, voiced his objections
to the high density as shown south of the Santa Aria
Freeway and agreed that this development all in one
area could lead to slums.
Mr. D. Knieper, 14131 Carfax, was opposed to the
General Plan on the basis that in the high density
area shown, there are only two schools.
Mr. D. McKenzie, 1142 Drayton Way, located in the
southernmost part of the existing residential zone,
asked who is going to supply Police protection.
Mr. C. Hare, 15751 Pacific Street, stated he did not
feel it conducive to good planning to centralize
density in one area but felt the Plan to be good
except for this portion.
Mr. L. Richards, 14641 Charloma, stated he is opposed
to planning a~ 'it stands and asked the following
questions:
1. When zoning was placed in this southern area.
2. How this ~llan affects the Irvine Ranch.
3. Where new Sears complex is going to be placed.
41 V~en was dwelling unit population figured for
south area and how close they will follow for
schools.
5. What type of figures used for projected 72,000
figure for 1982.
Mayor Mack stated that all questions would be answered
at conclusion of public discussions.
Mr. J. Clark, Utt Drive, stated there should be more
R-1 south of the Freeway and that it seems the planning
people are not taking to heart the residential plans
of two and three years ago.
Mr. C. Marks, Arroyo Drive, asked why community parks
are shown as being almost in Orange and Santa Ana.
This only brings outsiders in. He also asked why did
the General Plan not show the difference in the E-4-100
and E-4-125 in area near Seventeenth and Newport.
Council Minutes
11/21/66 Pg. 3
There being no further comments or objections, the
hearing was declared closed at 8:25 P.M.
Mr. Supinger endeavored to answer all above questions
as folkows:
1. We do not anticipate a Sears in Tustin as they
have just opened in Costa Mesa and he under-
stands will be closing their ~ain Street,
Santa Ana storep
2. Population figures given tonight were derived
within the last six months projected from
1960 census and 1966 special census and by
comparison with other communities in the area.
3. Police - as to who will police the SouthTustin
Area° It is mostly County and that area is
patrolled by the Sheriff's Department. As this
area annexes to the City, it will become the
City's responsibility.
4. The pro~ected 1982 population figur~ was
~erived from the existing land use plan and
Santa Ana's proposed use in accordance with their
General Plan, surveys of vacant property and
type of development anticipated.
5. Irvine Ranch property. The Irvine Ranch supports
the General Plan. Mr. Supinger called the
following to the attention of those present:
A. The agricultural land north of the Santa Ana
Freeway is under contract with the County
Assessor to be held in agriculture for ten
years.
B. The Irvine people say that sometime in the
future they will be coming in with amended
zoning soutk of the Freeway showing
residential development.
6. Schools. The Plan calls for three elementary
schools and one high school in the area. The
school staff feels this will serve the anticipated
population. If Irvine develops, this plan for
schools will have to be revised.
7. R-1 as shown is virtually all existing at present.
~e could take some density land for R-l, but
have no control over some land on western side
of Freeway as it is in the Santa Ana General Plan.
The staff agrees with many that there is too
much multiple, but the zoning is already there
and they did not see much chance of zoning for
single family and decided to hold the line at
this time.
8. Parks. Three proposed parks were shown:
A. Near Fairhaven to make use of excess Freeway
right-of-way which is not now on the tax roll.
Council Minutes
11/21/66 Pg. 4
B. Expansion of existing Prentice Park in
Santa Ana. Purchased by Santa Ana.
C. South Tustin Area because of high density
proposed in the area and available property
and could be connected to Regional Park
by a Recreation Way.
9. The General Plan 'is not meant to show zones in
detail so in some areas the density does not
agree with existing developments.
10. The feeling is that in the future predominance
of multiple will phase out R-1 development in
some areas.
ll,. R-4 was placed on the land in this area in
1949 by the County as a holding zone.
In answer to questions posed by Mr. McKenzie, Mr. Adsit
explained the economics of assessed valuation per
capita and the fact that as a community becomes developed
with more residential, the ratio tends to go down with
less assessed valuation per capita.
Councilman Coco stated he was grateful for comments from
surrounding citizens and the military in the development
of the General Plan. In answer to statements made by
Mr. Brand that one-half of the population will be
apartment dwellers, a great many of these developments
are in Santa Anao If we took the area west of the
Newport Freeway out of the Plan, the apartment dwelling
percentage of population drops considerably. Population
figures call for ultimate population of 100,000 in
the entire area, not just in the City. It is the job
of the Council to prepare for these people. These
changes are not to be made tomorrow, but we must pla~
for the future. Councilman Coco also felt that the
City will grow and all we can do is plan for this growth.
Tustin is the best City in Orange County and the job
is to keep it that way. People will disagree with the
elements of this Plan if they take a short range view.
We must look to a Tustin of 100,000 people and decide
where to put them.
Councilman Ring stated he had as much invested in his
home at 15712 Myrtle as anyone in the area and felt
that it is unfortunate that these people were not here
ten years ago to initiate a plan at that time when there
were people here who could not see that Tustin would
grow. Councilman Ring then stated that there were
specific parts of the Plan that he did not like, but
he is in favor of the Plan as a whole. The City can
re-study the southern area. He was in favor of
adopting this Plan and then adjusting specifics.
Councilman Coco stated that the Planning Commission had
called for a detailed study of the southern area. The
map and Plan presented tonight will be followed by a
detailed Plan of the City of Tustin. If the Council is
to adopt. the General Plan tonight, he would favor adding
the conditions that a detailed study of the area south
of the Santa Ana Freeway be made and that a recheck with
the School Board on the subject of schools projection
also take place.
Council Minutes
11/21/66 Pg. 5
Councilman Miller said he had the deepest sympathy
for the people present. As a result of interested
citizens and single family residents, this Plan
was initiated. Councilman Miller said he had no
desire to live in the biggest City, just the finest
City. He had had the same experience when he moved '
to Tustin and all the land in his area was zoned R-4.
The R-1 was spot zoning. He also stated that he did
not agree with the high density south of the Freeway
but it does show something people can base plans on.
He felt one of the best questions asked pertained to
assessed valuation and is something we will be taking
up in detail. The Plan is not an end, just a means
to an end and something that will keep growing.
Councilman Klingelhofer felt there is a tough road
ahead and the more we get into detail the more we will
face problems. A more in-depth study in the south area
is needed as well as other areas. There has been much
effort expended in determining what cities goals are
and it will be difficult to anticipate changes in the
future. Councilman Klingelhofer said that the Plan
should go forward and the Council's first goals should
be to launch a study in the southern area and this will
require the participation of everyone in~he room.
Councilman Ring referred the people to the School
Board's feeling that if people could generate interest
in the southern area we would get more schools.
Moved by Ring, seconded by KlingelhOfer, that the
Tustin City Council adopt the General Flan as outlined
with the following conditions: 1) immediate study into
southern area defined as heavy density, 2) coordination
with both School Districts be fostered at the same
time. Motion carried unanimously.
Five minute recess called by Mayor Mack.
Meeting reconvened at 9:45 P.M.
2. ORDINANCE NO. 329
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA,
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE NO. 157
AS AMENDED, TO PROVIDE A MOBILEHOME PARK DISTRICT.
Hearing opened at 9:45 P.M.
Mr. Supinger explained the background and staff study
and presented the recommendations of the Planning
Commission for approval.
There being no objections or comments, the hearing
was declared closed at 9:48 P.M.
Through questioning and suggestions by Councilman
Coco, the following changes were made:
Section 4.63, Par. 8, Line 6 to read: "Maximum
height of three (3) feet unless greater height
is specifically approved .... "
Council Minutes
11/21/66 Pg. 6
Section 4.63, Par. 9, Line 1 to read: "An
enclosed area screened from view shall be
provided for the outdoor drying of clothes ..... "
Moved by Coco, seconded by Klingelhofer, that
Ordinance Noo 329, as corrected, providing a
Mobilehome Park District, have first rea6ing
by title only. Carried unanimously.
VI.
OLD 1. ORDINANCE NO. 327
BUSINESS
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA, PREZONING PROPERTY OF
FREDRICKS ON APPLICATION PR 66-101.
Councilman Ring asked if the letter had been received
~overing agreement for 117 units.
City Attorney Rourke said a letter had been received
but not an agreement and that he has advised the
developer that it is necessary for an agreement to
be submitted.
Councilman Ring suggested that in light of the failure
of the developer to submit agreement, the Council
should consider dropping the entire subject.
Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Coco, that, as the
agreement has ~ot been submitted, this matter be
tabled until such time as the agreement is forth-
Coming to the City Attorney.
Upon questioning, Mr. Dixon Garner stated that he was
only now aware that a specific agreement was to be
prepared by an attorney, but that he would get on it
first thing in the morning.
Mr. Rourke said that he had received a letter and had
the next day advised a Mr. James that a letter was
not satisfactory.
Above motion tabling this matter carried by Roll Call.
Ayes: Mack, Klingelhofer, Coco Noes: Miller, Ring.
Absent: None.
2. ORDINANCE NO. 328
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA,
LICENSING THE TRANSACTION AND CARRYING ON OF
CERTAIN BUSINESSES, TRADES, PROFESSIONS, CALLINGS,
AND OCCUPATIONS IN THE CITY OF TUSTIN, FOR THE
PURPOSE OF RAISING MUNICIPAL REVENUE, AND
PROVIDING A PENALTY FOR THE VIOLATION THEREOF.
In answer to questions from the Council, Mr. Gill
explained that when a contractor comes .into the City
he is required to obtain a business license, but
that State law regulates that he =annot be required
~o pay more for license than gross receipts and that
there is no license required for anyone under gross
Council Minutes
11/21/66 Pg. 7
receipts category grossing under $1,000 per
year in the City. Mr. Gill also explained that
the Building Department requires a City license before
issuing a permit and that the Police Department does
utilize part of one man's time policing business
licenses but as far as stopping solicitors, this is
done mostly through complaints.
Councilman Klingelhofer stated his hopes that we see
the time when we can eliminate business licenses.
On questioning by Councilman Coco, Mr. Gill explained
that the reason for the request that this Ordinance
be passed tonight as an urgency measure is so that
it will be in effect for the issuance of all 1967
business licenses.
Moved by Ring, seconded by Coco, that Ordinance No. 328
have first reading by title only. Carried unanimously.
Moved by Ring, seconded by Miller, that Ordinance No. 328
have second reading by title only. Carried unanimously.
Moved by Miller, seconded by Ring, that Ordinance No. 328
l'f~ensing the transaction and carrying on of certain
businesses, trades, professions, callings and
occupations in the City of Tustin, be passed and
adopted as an emergency, urgency measure. Carried by --
Roll Callo Ayes: Mack, Klingelhofer, Miller, Ring.
Noes: None. Abstained: Coco. Absent: None.
Councilman Klingelhofer stated that the City should be
sure to really enforce for all City businesses so
that the people in the City carry their full share.
Mr. Gill stated that a business license tends to
enhance local businesses. Local people pay a modest
fee and outsiders tend not to buy a license in every
city.
VII.
NEW 1. RESOLUTION NO. 848
BUSINESS
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA, REPEALING RESOLUTION
NO. 682, DESIGNATING INDIVIDUALS AUTHORIZED
TO SIGN FOR AND ACCEPT SURPLUS FEDERAL PROPERTY.
Moved by Miller, seconded by Coco, that Resolution
No. 848 be read by title only. Carried unanimously.
Moved by Miller, seconded by Ring, that Resolution
No. 848, repealing Resolution No. 682, designating
individuals authorized to sign for and accept surplus
federal property, be passed and adopted. Motion
carried. Ayes: Mack, Klingelhofer, Coco, Miller,
Ring. Noes: None. Absent: None.
2. STATEMENT OF ARCHITECTURAL POLICY - Tustin Chamber
of Commerce.
Mr. Charles Greenwood spoke of the work done by the
Chamber of CoE~merce Business and Industrial Committee
on this Policy which they hoped was a definite step
Council Minutes
11/21/66 Pg. 8
to improve the business districts in the City.
It was their ~ope that a Policy along these lines
could be adopted and would encourage this type of
architecture or a style compatible.
Moved by Kiingelhofer, seconded by Ring, that this
Architectural Policy be submitted to the Planninq
Commission for study and subsequent recommendations.
Carried.
Councilman Miller said the City has one tool to
implement this Policy - the ~chitectural Committee -
and hopes that it is not a rigid policy as early
California architecture is, at times, hard to define.
Mr. Greenwood said he would like to see a Chamber
member on the Architectural Committee.
3.ACCEPTANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS IN TRACT NO. 6200
AND EXONERATION OF BONDS.
~oved by Ring, seconded by Klingelhofer, that the
improvements in Tract No. 6200 be accepted and the
bonds be exonerated. Carried.
4.ACCEPTANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS IN TRACT NO. 6134
AND EXONERATION OF BONDS.
~oved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Rinq, that the
l~provements in Tract No. 6134 be accepted and the
bonds be exonerated. Carried.
5. APPROVAL OF DEMANDS
Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Ring, that demands
in the amount of $22,285.79 be approved and paid.
Carried.
VIII.
REPORTS & 1. Mr. Gill explained the basic recommendations of the
OTHER Advisory Commission for a Program for Intergovernmental
BUSINESS Reform and the fact that this could take any reviewing
agency such as the City's Board of Appeals out of local
jurisdiction and Mr. Gill recommended the adoption of
a Minute Order in opposition to these recommendations.
Councilman Miller said he had been following this
~ational Building Code development for years and stated
he did not feel we have some of the problems that other
areas do as most communities in California have adopted
the Uniform Building Code or something similar to it.
He would support Recommendations 1,'3, 4, 5, 6~ 8, and
10, and oppose 7, 9 and 11.
Moved by Coco, ~econded by Miller, that the City Council
go on r~ord opposing certain Recommendations of the
Advisory Commission on Intergovernmental. Reform, dated
January 1966~ specifically Recommendations 7, 9 and 11
relating to Building Codes: A Program for Intergovern-
mental Reform. Carried.
Council Minutes
11/21/66 Pg. 9
2. Moved by Ring, seconded by Coco, that expense
accounts for League of California"Cities Conference in
San Diego be approved as submitted. Carried.
3. Moved by Ring, seconded by Klingelhofer, that
necessary expense money be authorized for the City
Administrator to attend the Computer institute fo~
City Managers in San Francisco January 22nd through 27th.
Carried.
IX.
CORRES- Correspondence received - no action taken:
PONDENCE
1. City of Santa Ana re~ local control
of alcoholic beverage licensing.
2. Orange County Board of Supervisors
re: water reclamation plant.
X.
ADJOURNMENT Meeting adjourned to a Personnel Session. Present:
Mack, Klingelhofer, Coco, Miller, Ring, City
Administrator, City Attorney and City Clerk.
Moved by Ring, seconded by Miller, that meeting
be adjourned. Carried.
b~YOR
C~TY CLERK -,