HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC MINUTES 1965 01 18 3 59
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN CITY COUNCIL
January 18, 1965
Meeting called to order at Vr38 P.M. by Mayor Mack.
Pledge of Allegiance.
Present: Mack, Klin~elhofer, Coco, Miller, Ring.
City Attorney Rourke, present.
Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Coco that Minutes
of January 4th meeting be approved as mailed and
corrected. Carried.
Hearing opened aT ~:40 P.M. to consider the abandonment ABANDONMENT
of Second Street from Pasadena to Newport Freeway. SECOND ST.
Location and portion of street to be vacated LOCATION
explained by Mr. Wheelock with written report and EXPLAINED
recommendation.
There being no objections or comments, the Hearing
was declared closed at 7:42 P.M.
Moved by Coco, seconded by Ring that Resolutkon 7~2 RESOL. 762
"A Resolution and Order of Abandonment of a Portion of READ BY
a Public S~reet, To-Wit, Second Street, from Pasadena TITLE ONLY
Avenue ~o the Newport Freeway"_, be read by title only.
Carried unanimously.
MOved by Ring, seconded by Klingelhofer that RESOL. 762
Resolution 762 be passed and adopted. Carried PASSED AND
by roll call: ~yes: Mack, Klingelhofer, Coco, Miller, ADOPTED
Ring. Noesr None. Absent: None.
Hearing opened at ?:44 P.M. to consider Appeal of UP 64-182
decision of Tustin Planning 'Commission appr~oving RALPHS INDUSI
UP 64-182 of Rslphs Industries~.
History of Zone Change, Use Permit requirements under
Amendment to Zone Ordinance and Hearing and approval by
the Tustin Planning Commission explained by Mr. Hsworth
who also read following reasons filed for A~peal by
Mr. A. Theurich~
1. The plans as submitted include a 43' sigm on
l?th Street.
2. The plans as submitted do not include architectural
elevations or bill offmaterials, for exteriors
and roof.
3. Lack of adequate screening of buildings by trees
on lVth Street.
Plot ptan presented by Mr. Haworth with explanation of
changes from original plans including 6' wall and lO'
setback on Easterly side of development, changes to
Spanish style of architecture and 362 off-street parking
spaces. Also presented were .the following:
1. Landscaping plans showing approximately 30 trees
in parkway area, landscaped ends to p~rk-ing isles
and plantinge for sound barrier adjoining R-3
property tothe Nor~h.~
2. Sign plan showing main sign to 35' and supporting
columns extending to 40'~6".
3.Elevation Plans with specific building
materials to be used.
4. Plans for sprinkler system to maintain landscaping.
Mr. A Thourich of 17882 Arbolada Way, stating he
represented TAHOA stated that a sign advertising weekly .~.
specials was out of keeping with the area, that landscaping
is inadequate, trees shown are of the wrong variety and he
would recommend the planting of full.grown mate olive trees;
40' sign is not indicative of quality;Ifelt that Ralphs had
made no effort to ~ork with or contact.. area homeo~rners.
He felt that Ralphs could forego many of their requirements
as they now seemedto be able to live without the gas'
station originally planned and the Pr zone to the East,
'Mr. C. Arthur Nisson, attorney representing Ralphs
Industries stated that they had in the pas~ year talked
with TAHOA and been before both the Planning COmmission
and City Council many times and that Ralphs have
proposed the outstanding market in the County -
construction costs far exceeding other markets in the
District. Mr. Nisson noted that a duly noticed Hearing
had been held on this UP before the Planning Commission,
in December. At that time, not one person from TAHOA~
or the area was present and doubted if there had been a meeting
of TAHOA~in over six months. He felt that:much is
being made as to the sign, lsndscapingl and other points
and that a person trying to develop in the City should
be able to use some:of this Own JUdgment; all plant can't
be laid out for him as tokind, quality, and size downto
the last tree. Mr. Nisson stated he felt this had no
place before the Council. Mr.~ Nisson then read and
filed with the Clerk, five letters regarding need for sign.
Mr. T.F. Hinds, Director of Real Estate, Ralphs InduStries
stated that in answer to Mr. Theurich's statement, Ralphs
still felt they could not live without a service station
and still intend to h~veonein the future. And, that!the
statement regarding the need for Pr fzone was not trU!e.
Ralphs had stated that this portion of the property ~ould
be under! separate ownership and had at that time with-
drawn that portion of the Zone Change application and
ha~ said they needed the additional 65' which they
received.~ Ralphsattempted to give alleffort to carry
out anything they said they would do..
There being no further comments Or objections, the ~
Hearing was declaredlclosed at 8z:17 P.M.
In answer to a c~uestion bY Councilman Coco, Mr. Hinds
said that the plan was to start development with the!
market and the area of other building sites would be
fine graded and they believe other buildings would
follow market to completion insix months,~ No commitments
for stores haveas! yet been sOlicited~
Councilman Miller lsaid he felt it would be better tohave
a nattower side~walkon 17th Street tO allow for wider
planting strip. Mr. Wheelock explained reasons for 4'
sidewalk and stated Standards have been adopted showkng
curb, gutter and walkS. City Attorney Rourke confirmed
that any deviation from the Standards would have bo be
by amendments to Ordinance., Councilman Miller stated
that it should be noted that the Council has been considering
a landscaped divider down 17th Street to help beautify the
area and in his opinion a 35' sign is not compatible.
He was pleased to see Architectural Plans of the buildings
but .questioned elevation facing R-1 and Easterly being
just painted concrete.
Mayor pro tem Klingelhofer stated that the Council
should recognize the following:
1. Planning Commission had given approval.
2. Staff recommended approval.
3. ~he City is anxious ~o realize revenue.
4. No City residents are present protesting.
5. No protests at CommiSsion Hearing and fe~l
the Appeal a bit la~e and reflects the fact
that a few do not like the center.
Moved by Klingelhofer, that Appeal ~o decision of UP64-182
Plarn~ing Commission granting UP64-182 be denied.
Motion died for lack of second.
Councilman Coco thought motion premature and there
maybe Justification on both sides. The City is
most anxious for tha center ~o thrive, and though
realizes a sign is necessary to draw Transient trade
wonders, if local residents trade wouldn't far exceed
transient trade. He would hate to see potential
boycott from area people. If Ralphs have concluded
sign would drs~ enough people to warrant, the question
is, will enough people be drawn by sign to counteract
resentmen~ of area. More consideration should be
given to dissenting froup and their suggestions
should be considered although some seem to have been
taken care of.
Mayor Mack reiterated that we are acting on the three
specific written issues se~ ~orth in the Appeal.
There will be t'~ee wells and trees in parkway on
17th Street to add to screening. You can't expect
to make it look like the house nex~ door, nor can
you hide commercial development the plans must also
provide for safety features. The sign itself seems
to be a matter of opinion.
Councilman Ring spoke as a person against pylon signs
of. any type. In his opinion, they are not attractive
but he felt Rslphs is outstanding in design. Mr. Ring
also stated that none of the TUstin cit'izens have
protested including City Officials living in the area.
Tustin will use this land as s buffer against any
further commercial as we do not want ~o destroy suburban
effect. We are considering primarily the people of
Tustin as well as area residents. We have personal
and professional feelings and must look aT th~s
objectively.
Dr. Klingelhofer said sign would no~ s~tract him one
way or another but felt there is not enough basis
to have slgn denied.
On questioning, Mr. Hinds stated that Ralphs would
desire tokeep sign st 35' (top of oval) and omit
top members.
Mr. Miller stated that in all conscience, it is the
duty of the Council ~o look out for the best interest
Of Tustin and it is in our interest ~o~hsve Rslphs,
but sign willno~ look quite as good when buil~ ss it
does on rendering and Ralphs has no~ stated why they
feel their development will not be as successful as
developments In the County without signs.
36'
Moved by Miller, seconded by Coco (for purpose of ~
discussion) that UP for Rslphs granted by Planning
Commission be modified by the following: sign
located o~ 17th Street and per~endiculsr to be
limited to 12' with no reader board and exterior
walls facing N6rtherly and Westerly be faced with
same masonry material as indicated on South elevation.
Mr. Coco agreed with spirit of motion, but felt it
might be too restrictive.
Moved by Coco, seconded by Miller (for purpose of
dis6ussion) that motion be ame~d.e~to change height
from 12' to 20' and eliminate category requiring wall
facings.
Amendmen~ ~to motion failed roll call: Ayes: Coco.
Noes: Ring, Klingelhofer, Miller, Mack.
Original motion for 12, sign, no reader board and wal-1
facing requiremenzs faLled. Roll call Ayes: Miller.
Noes: Ring, Klingel-hofer, Coco, Mack.
Motion by Miller that Use Permit 64-182 be granted
subject to condition that sign located perpendicular
to 17th Street be 20' in height ~ith no reader board
and exterior walls on West and North be faced with
same material as on Southerly elevation. Motion
died for lack of second.
Moved by Coco, seconded~bY Miller that UP as granted
be appro~ed subject to following sign as shown be
limited to maximum height of 20' otherwise ~o be
exactly as shown.
Moved by Miller, seconded by Ring that motion be
amended to eliminate reader board.
City attorney informed Council that sign must have
10' of clearance above ground.,
Above motion and amendment ruled out of order.
Moved by Coco that UP as approved by Planning
Commission beapproved with following exception sign
as shown ~n rendering be limited to height of 20' and
necessary steps to be taken t'o conform with sign ordinance
of the City of Tustin. Motion died for lack of second.
Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded By Ring that UP64-182
as presented be approved with following modifications
sign to be no higher than 20' and not to contain reader
board. Carried by roll call - Ayes: Ring, Klingelhofer,
Coco, Miller. Noes: Mack.
Mayor declared recess at 9:21 P.M.
Meeting reconvened a~ 9:33 P.M.
ZC64-140 Hearing opened at 9:35 P.M. on ZC6~-i~0 of Tustin
TUSTIN Elemenzary School District to permit a charge-of zone
ELEM SCHOOL from E-4 to Pr on N/W corner Fourth and "B" Stree~ and
DIST. S/W corner Of Fourth and "B" Street extension.
Location described and recommendations of Planning
Commission md Staff presented by Mr. Taylor.
There being no commentsor objections, the hearing
was declared closed at 9:37 P.M.
Moved by Miller, seconded by Coco that attorney be
directed to draft an ordinance approving zone change ZONE CHANGE
application 64-140 rezoning property on N/W and S/W 64-140
corners of Fourth and "B" Streets to Pr zone with
recommendations as set forth by Planning Commission
and Staff. Carried unanimously.
Moved by Ring, seconded by Miller that Ordinance 0RD 270
270, app~oving the Annexation ~f c~tain uninhabited BRYAN-NEWPORT
territory, designated "Bryan-Newport Annexation" ANNEX.
to the City of Tustin, be read by title only. Carried
unanimously.
0RD. 270
Moved hy Ring, seconded byeMiller that Ordinance 270 PASSED AND
be pas~ed and adopted. Carried by roll call - Ayes: ADOPTED
Mack, Klingelhofer, Coco, Miller, Ring. Noes: None.
Absent:~ None.
Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Ring that Ordinance 0RD. 271
271, amending Section 5.11 of the Zoning Ordinance of AMENDING
the City, Ordinance No. 157, as amended, be read by ZONING ORD.
title only. Carried unanimously. 157
Moved by Klingelhofer, secondedby Miller that ORD. 271
Ordinance 271 be passed and adopted. Carried by roll PASSED AND
call: Ayes: Mack, Klingelhofer, Coco, Miller, Ring. ADOPTED
Noes: None. Absent: None.
Moved by Coco, seconded by Ring that Ordinance 273, ORD. 273
adopting the precise alignment of "B" Street have f'lrst ALIGNMENT
reading by title only. Carried. unanimously. "B" STREET
Report from P. W. Director regarding bids for Improvements BIDS FOR
of Prospect Ave. presented with recommendation that IMPROV. OF
project be re-advertised for bid due to recent PROSPECT
developments calling for a change in specifications. RE-ADVERTISH
Moved by Ring, seconded by Miller ths~ all bids for
the improvement of Prospect Ave. be rejected and bidder
bonds be returned. Carried.
Mr. Wheelock directed ~o report to Council estimate
of costs for revised Prospect Ave. Project.
Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Miller that Tustin TUSTIN FIRE
Fire Department Rules and Regulations tabled at DEPT. RULES
previous meeting be taken from the table for discussion. AND REGULAT.
Carried.
Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Ring that Tustin
Fire Department Rules and Regulations be approved in
principal and as a policy. Carried.
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Report regarding Packing House at Newport and San Jusn PACKING HOUSE
presented. Mr. Rourke stated that action on this item NEWPORT and
had been deferred from last meeting in order that notice SAN JUAN
could be given SB RR. As no railroad representative
is present, he requested action be taken at this time.
Mr. Rourke also stated that any work done on Packing
House would have to be in conformity with all other laws.
RR to Moved by Coco, seconded by Ring that Southern Pacific
remove RR be directed to remove portion of building located
portion of in Newport Avenue right of way at13801 Newport Ave~e
building Tustin, not later thanJuly~,~1965. Carried.
POLICY Policy regarding gifts to City employees and appointed
REGARDING officials referred to the City Attorney to be drafted
GIFTS TO in form to amend Resolution 754 regarding personnel
EMPLOYEES rules.
Consideration of Building ~epsrtment Policy Manual ~
deferred to next meeting. _,
Mr. q. Fleming, Chairman of Parks and Recreation
Commission, spoke regarding proposed residential
tree list, proposed ordinance making trees manadatory
in new developments, and proposed resolution adopting
a Master Tree Plan for the City.
Moved~by Coco, seconded by Miller that Residential
Tree List as presented by the Parks and Recreation
Commission be adopted. Carried.
TRACT 5311 Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by.Coco that Improvements
of Tract 5311 be accepted and the bonds exonerated
except the street lighting system. Carried.
RECOMM. Following recommendations 0f General Plan Committee
GEN. PLAN regarding Phase II of plan presented:
COMMITTEE
1. That the report to the General Plan Committee
on Phase II of the General Plan Program, with
corrections, be presented to the City Council
for favorable consideration of authorization
of expenditures not to exceed $2,730.00. ~'~
Further, that the City Council review at
least three bids on the purchase of aerial
photographs and that the City Council select
the lowest qualified bid.
2' That Mr. Adsit be retained ssConsultant
for Phase II, as the Committee was very
pleased with the~work he has done with the
General Plan Committee in the past year.
3. That the Planning area be increased to
include all of~thst area within the Tust~n
Elementary School boundaries not previously
a par~ of the original planning area.
Moved by Coco, seconded by Ring that recommendations
l, 2, and 3 of the General Plan Committee as set forth
in report of January 15th be accepted in their entirety.
Carried.
RESOL. 765 MOved by Coco, seconded by Klingelhofer that Resolution
Richard 765, declaring that proceedings have been initiated to
Smith annex certain uninhabited territory desiEnated
ANNEX. Richard B.'Smith Annexation to the City of Tustin and
giving notice of the proposed annexation, be read by ~'
title only. ~
RESOL. 765 Moved byKlingelhofer, seconded by Coco that Resolution.
PASSED 765 be passed and adopted. Carried by roll call -
ADOPTED Ayes: Mack, Klingelhofer, Coco, Miller, Ring. Noes:
None. Absent: NOne.
365
Movedby Coco, seconded by Miller that Resolution ?66 RESOL. 766
approving plans and specifications for improvement of IMPROV.
Main Street between Newport and Bryan Ayes. and. MAIN STREET
authorizing the CiTy Clerk to advertise for bids, be
read~by title only. Carried unanimously.
Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Ring that Resolution RESOL. 766
766 be passed and adopted. Carried by roll call PASSED
--- Ayes: Mack, Klingelhofer, Coco, Miller, Ring. Noes: ADOPTED
None...Absent: None.
Moved by Klingelhofer, seconded by Ring that Mr. ROBERT
Robert.Womack be placed on Volunteer Fire Department WOMACK
roster,as recommended by Chief HilTon. Carried. VOL. FIRE DEP'
Council set Saturday, January 30th for Building DepT.
Seminar.
Report and recommendations regarding purchase of PURCHASE OF
~ Street Sweeper presented.
STREET
~' Moved by Coco, seconded by Ring that purchase of
r~ SWEEPER
~ Mobile Sweeper be authorized. Carried.
Mr. Hawor~h recommended that all councilmen attend
General Plan Presentation Wednesday P.M.
Moved by Ring, seconded byKlingelhofer that reques~
of Parks end Recreation CommissiOn for legal
assistance from City Attorney be approved, Oarried.
Moved, by Ring, seconded by Klingelhofer ths~ bills
to the amount.of $10,922.92 be paid. Carried
Betty J. ArmsTrong ................
The Tustin News ................. $ 207.50
................................... 120.74
Kleen-Line Corporation ............................ 19.36
First Western Bank (Utilities) .....................
Pitney-Bowes, Inc .................................. 678.13
Los Angeles Times . ................................ 69.16
Santa Arts Office Su~ly Co.i ....... i ............... 99.54
Coast EnVelope Co .................................. 25.08-
aa.51 B
Tiernan's Office Equipment ........................ 80.79 I
Thermo-Fax Sales Incorporated ..................... 55.34 L
Dennis Printers & Stationers ....................... 129.20 L
Business Forms Press Inc ...........................
Rourke & Holbrook 55.12 S
................................. 615.00
Hanson , pete~son, Cowlea & Sylvester ............. 360.00
Arrowhead and Purltus Waters IHc ................... 8.76
Orange County Insurance Agency ..................... 18.00
Atlas Coverall & Uniform Supply C0. 9.00
Tus~in PRint Store ................
Tustin Water Works 2:22222:22::: ................... 290.44
.................... 1,044.00
Calif. Fire Chief's Association ................... 8.00
Drewes Union Service ............................... 44.69
Harris & Frank ................
..................... 38-43
IndusTrial Fire Equipment Co .......................
Signs~ Oil Co 7.4~
Gerding Studio Phozogrsphy ......................... 493.50
CSunty of Orange ................................... 22.50
Dr. Kenneth G. Hebsrd, M.D. I3.52
V.B. Anderson Co. ' ....................... 10.00
Econolite ........ ' ................................. 2.86
.................................. 24.11
Traffic Signal Maint. Co ........................... 152.12
366
Santa Ana Blue Print Co.- .................. $ 5.41
Tustin Blscksmith~ShoP .......... ~ .......... 222.08.
18.11
Orange Co. Auto Parts ..................... 23-63
Orange Co. Blueprin~ ......................
J. Wylie Carlyle, County Recorder ..... ~ .... 17-50~
....... 140.00
Orange County Title Co .............. 255.53
Morrison Co. - .............................
24.75
Reproduction .............................. 241.75
Hardy & Harper ............................ 17.40
E.D. Bullard Co. - .........................
120.00
J.E. Bauer Co. - ................... 7.82
Vista Drug ..................................
Southern Calif. P~anning Congress ......... 25.00
Sterling Art & Engineering Supplies ....... 33-38
Cape Aire Builders, Inc. - ................. 1,696.60
Motorola C.& E., Inc. - .................... 3°029'04
Buel A. Williamson (Auto Allow.) ........... 50.00
Economy Office Equipment Co. - ............. 248.05
Open portion of meeting closed for a personnel session.
Recommendations for employment of Assistant Civil
Engineer presented by Mr. Wheelock'and Mr. Carlsen.
JOHN REFI Moved by Ring, seconded by Klingelhofer that
EMPLOY. AS~ Mr. John Refi be employed as Assistant Civil Engineer
ASSIST. commencing February l, 1965, in Range 18, Step "A"
CIVIL ENG. Carried.
POLICE CHIEF Moved by Ring, seconded by Coco that Police Chief be
AUTH. EXPENSEauthorized expense money, not ~o.exceed $75-00 for __
MONEY investigation purposes. Carried.
Moved by Miller, seconded by Klingelhofer that meeting
be adjourned- Carried.
MAYOR