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October 11, 1989
PAUL R. WATKINS (t899-1973}
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Honorable Mayor and Members of the City Council
City of Tustin
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, California 92680
Re:
Appeal of Manchester Development Corporation
(Tustin Retail Limited/Gerald Misurek) Re
Variance 89-~0, Re Mimi's Plaza at 13911-51
Carroll Way & 17th Street, Tustin
The purpose of this letter is to request the
Council to modify the decision of the City's Planning
Commission granting in part and denying in part variance
request 89-10 submitted by Manchester Development Corporation
("Manchester"). While the Staff Report generally constituted
a thorougM analysis of the variance request, the staff made
certain legal errors which resulted in an erroneous decision
by the Commission. Specifically, the staff and the
Commission applied the wrong legal standard for a variance
request, inappropriately characterized the Request as a "use
variance," and erroneously categorized signs as "off-premise"
instead of "on-premise". We therefore request that the
Council modify the Commission's decision as indicated below.
BACKGROUND
The property in question is a shopping center (the
"Center") located on the corner of 17th Street and Carroll
Way, adjacent to the 55 Freeway. Immediately across Carroll
Way is a competing shopping center, in addition to commercial
development to the south of the Center on 17th Street.
Closest to 17th are two buildings which predated the
remainder of the Center -- Mimi's Restaurant on the west
corner and a service station on the right corner. The
Center proper consists of three buildings in a "U" shape
facing Carroll Way. Building 1 is in the back, with its rear
abutting the 55 Freeway. Buildings 2 and 3 are perpendicular
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to Carroll and face each other and the parking lot, with
Building 2 closer to 17th Street.
Manchester is requesting a variance to the Sign
Ordinance which would allow: (1) three 75 square-foot signs
on the back of Building 1 facing the Freeway for the Center's
major tenants (five smaller signs for minor tenants were
approved by the Commission and thus are not at issue here);
(2) a monument sign set back two feet from 17th Street and
identifying the tenants in the Center -- the Commission
approved a monument sign set back seven feet, but allowed
identification only of the Center and not of the tenants.
THE COMMISSION APPLIED ERRONEOUS LEGAL STANDARDS
Under section 9471 of the City's Sign Code, only
two requirements need to be met for a variance:
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(1) That because of exceptional circumstances
applicable to the subject property, the strict
application of this Chatkter is found to deprive
subject property of privileges enjoyed by other
properties in the vicinity and under similar
circumstances..
(2) That the variance shall be subject to such
conditions as will assure that the adjustments
thereby authorized will not constitute a grant of
special privileges inconsistent with the
limitations upon other properties in the vicinity
and district in which the subject property is
located. (Id. § 9471.)
There is no requirement that the granting of the
variance not be "detrimental" to other properties, or
contrary to the General Plan. (Cf. Commission Resolution
2669 at 2.)1-/ Instead, the focus of the section is on
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In any event, there is no evidence that the variance is
contrary to the General Plan, notwithstandin~ the
circular argument that the General Plan requires
properties to be consistent with the Sign Ordinance --
if taken literally, this requirement would prohibit all
variances. Nor would the variance be detrimental to any
surrounding properties, except in the sense that an
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whether the landowner is denied privileges granted other
nearby landowners, and in that context, whether there is a
practical and fair basis for allowing the requested variance.
Using the applicable standard, it is clear that
denying the variance will put Mimi's Plaza at a competitive
disadvantage to neighboring commercial properties. The
simple fact is that the tenant signs at the adjacent shopping
center are clearly visible from 17th Street, and that this is
a significant economic advantage over Mimi's Plaza. Because
of the existence of Mimi's Restaurant and the gas station on
the site, it was not possible to situate the Center in such a
way as to allow the same visibility present on neighboring
properties. It is this exceptional circumstance which
requires providing tenant identification on the monument sign
on 17th Street.
Similarly, although the additional five-foot set
back of the monument sign ordered by the Commission may seem
minimal, it is significant in terms of visibility. When one
places oneself in the position of a driver on 17th Street
trying to read the sign while movihg and deciding whether or
not to turn into the Center, the additional visibility of the
closer sign becomes clear. Granting the variance as to the
monument sign would not provide the Center with any unique
privilege. Instead, it would simply equalize its position
vis-&-vis neighboring commercial properties.
By the same token, allowing signs for the Center's
three major tenants to be visible from the 55 Freeway would
only equalize the Center's position with its competitors.
For example, there is a large sign advertising a real estate
company competing with a Center tenant immediately across the
Freeway from the Center. Limiting Center tenants to 5x5
signs severely restricts their ability to compete.
The conclusion that the variance request is
justified is supported by the findings of the Planning
Commission in Resolution 2669. The Commission recognizes
that "other shopping centers along Seventeenth Street have
been allowed to establish monument signs within the setback
area," and that the monument sign "will not constitute a
visual hazard and is not in an area of future widening."
economically vital Center would "harm" its competitors.
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October 11, 1989
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(Id. at 1) Curiously, however, the Commission then denies
the closer monument sign without finding that it would be a
visual hazard or a special privilege, except to note two
unsupported and contradicted statements -- "that all other
property owners must compl~ with requirements of the Zoning
and Sign Codes," and that approval would "set a precedence
for other commercial shopping centers on Seventeenth
Street."2-/ (Id. at 2.) As other centers have been allowed
the same privilege sought here, there is no basis for the
conclusions that "all the property owners must comply" or
that a dangerous precedent would be set. Moreover, it is
never explained how allowing tenant identification on the
monument sign would in any way have any greater impacts than
a sign merely identifying the Center.
The Commission also finds that residential
properties to the north of the Center would somehow be harmed
by being "subjected to larger signs." This is simply
fanciful, as the signs'would be on the rear wall of Building
1, facing the Freeway. It is true that there will be less
traffic impacts if no one knows oft. the existenceS, of the
businesses in the Center. But the decision to allow the
Center itself was made long ago-and is not at issue here.
Accordingly, there is no justification for the denial of the
variance on this basis.
The Commission concludes without discussion that
allowing signs for Center tenants would somehow be a "use
variance" for those tenants not physically located in
Building 1. The argument appears to be that a use variance
would be required because the wall signs would be "off-
premise," a "use" which is prohibited by the City's code.
Thus, if the signs are not "off-premise" then it follows that
their placement behind Building 1 is not a prohibited use.
Initially, it must be noted that this appears to be an
extraordinarily narrow interpretation of "use." Normally, a
use variance refers to allowing a general land use normally
prohibited or allowed only in another zone or area. For
example, a use variance would be'required to permit a
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Whether or not the monument sign would be in an "area of
future widening" is irrelevant, as the City required as
a condition of approval that Manchester must assume all
costs of relocating the monument sign if the City deems
it necessary to widen 17th Street to its ultimate width.
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October 11, 1989
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commercial use in a residential district. (See 3 R.
Anderson, American Law of Zoninq, § 20.06 (3d ed. 1986).)
This power is prohibited of general law cities in California.
(Govt. Code § 65906.) The rationale is that use variances
could allow unelected planning commissions to'usurp the
legislative power of city councils. (See 3. R. Anderson, §
20.08.) Such a danger surely is not present here.
In any event, it is hard to see how a sign at the
rear of one building in a shopping center can be defined as
"off-premise". The only definition of "off-premise" appears
in Section 9444 of the Sign Code: "Any sign installed for
the purpose of advertising a product, event, person or
subject not related to the premises upon which said sign is
located, except directional signs, is prohibited .... "
(Id.) It would be a strange construction indeed to define
"premise" as encompassing only the four walls of an
individual business within the Center. For one thing, this
definition would'prohibit any tenant identification on
monument signs -- a "use" not prohibited by the Code. (See
§ 9494(g) (h).) The common sense definition of "P~emise" is
that where there is one shopping c~nter, on one parcel of
land, with the relevant land all owned by one entity or
individUal, the "premises" are the entire area of the
shopping center. To define it otherwise would be to require
grossly inequitable treatment among tenants on the same
property. Accordingly, neither of these definitional
bugaboos provide any basis for denying the variance.
We respectfully submit that the Commission erred in
denying portions of the variance, and request the Council to
reverse the Commission as to those portions.
Sincerely,
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M~rk-A. Ni~ikman
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City Council Report
Appeal of Variance 89-10
October 16, 1989
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The subject shopping center includes three buildings (Buildings 1, 2 and 3 as shown
on Attachment A) designed in a "U" shape pattern on the site. Building number 1 is
located along the rear property line facing Carroll Way and parallel to the freeway
and buildings 2 and 3 are located parallel to the side lot lines and face inward onto
a parking lot. To the south is the Mimi's Restaurant building and a Chevron gas
station. As part of the design review approval for the shopping center, a reciprocal
parking and access agreement with the restaurant was provided.
One of staff's original concerns with the design of the project was the way the
buildings were oriented inward toward parking on the shopping center site with
the project's design having the rear elevations of buildings facing Seventeenth
Street. The applicant now believes that they should be granted variances from
the City's Sign Code in order to provide additional identification from the
SR-55 freeway and Seventeenth Street.
A public hearing notice identifying the time, date, and location of the public
hearing on this matter was published_in the Tustin News. Property owners within
300 feet of the site were also noticed by mail.' ~he applicant and property
owner were forwarded copies of the staff report.
STAFF ANALYSIS
The Sign Code regulations and State law require the City Council to make the
following findings in' order to approve a Variance from the Sign Code regulations'
1. That there are unusual or exceptional circumstances 'applicable to the subject
property; and
2. That the subject property is-being denied a privilege enjoyed by others, due to
these special circumstances; and
3. That the granting of the variance would not be detrimental to surrounding
properties; and
4. That granting the variance is not contrary to the goals and policies of the
General P1 an.
There are no special circumstances for this parcel. The site is flat, has a regular
shape and is of adequate size to provide signage that meets the Code requirements.
Other properties of similar zoning have signage that meets the Code requirements.
This property is not being denied any privileges that other property owners enjoy.
Granting a Variance to exceed the size limitations will set a precedence and other
properties will request similar variances.
Community Development Department
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City Council Report
Appeal of Variance 89-10
October 16, 1989
Page three
The proposed off-premise wall signs on the rear of Building 1 are not permitted
by Code. Section 9444(f) of the Tustin Sign Code defines off-premise signs as
"any sign installed for the purpose of advertising a product, person or subject
not related to the premises upon which said sign is located". The Webster Dictionary
definition of premise is "the place of business of an enterprise or institution".
The Tustin Sign Code establishes size, height and location restrictions for business
identification wall signs (Section 9494b). The purpose of such signs is to identify
the location of the business within the building. Businesses may have such signs on
the front, rear and one side (if applicable) of the building within which they are
located. In addition, the regulations are based upon a percentage of wall area for
each tenant space. Therefore, wall signs identifying businesses located in a
separate building are considered off-premise signs and prohibited. Section 65906 of
the State Planning Law prohibits the granting of a variance for a use that is not
otherwise permitted by the City's Zoning Code. This would be considered a use
variance. The Community Development Department and the City Attorney's office have
.discussed this issue and concur with this interpretation of off-premise signs.
Si nce th'e Zoning Code establ i shes a setback from the ri ght-o f-way for
structures, the monument sign on Seventeenth Street is required to be 15 feet
behind the front property line. The site plan shows a'. two foot setback.
Although Seventeenth Street is presently lO0"feet wide, both the City and County
Master Plan for Arterial Highways .'designate Seventeenth Street as a Major
Arterial, which requires a 120 foot right-of-way. The sign is proposed to be located
within the ultimate right-of-way for Seventeenth Street.
Due to the constraints of the existing parking at Mimi's Restaurant (which were
established prior to the present Sign Code) staff can support a reduction of the
required 15 foot structural set'back from right-of-way line. However, in order to
minimize impacts on surrounding properties and to reduce the cluttered appearance
along Seventeenth Street, staff recommends that the sign be relocated in front of the
restaurant within the landscaped area and maintain a minimium seven foot setback. In
addition, when and if Seventeenth Street is widened, the sign would be required to be
relocated. ' The City's Traffic Engineer has identified a concern with the sign
location from a traffic safety standpoint and concurs with the staff recommended
alternate location (Attachment D).
Community Development Department
City Council Report
October 16, 1989
Appeal of Variance 89-10
Page four
CONCLUSION
Based upon the above analysis, and a review of the existing conditions on the
site, staff have determined that although there are no special circumstances to
grant a variance to exceed the size limitations, there are special physical
conditions to support a reduction of the front setback for the monument sign.
The Planning Commission granted a variance for the monument sign to be 7' from
the front property line, in a different location. In light of concerns of the
City Traffic Engineer and the State law restrictions prohibiting use variances,
it is recommended that the City Council uphold the Planning Commission decision
denying the applicant's proposed location and size of the proposed monument sign
and tenant identification wall sign.
Sara Pashalides'
Associate Planner
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Attachments:
Attachment A, B, C, and D
Resolution No. 89-157
Christine Shlngleton /x~/
Director of Community~i~evelopment
Community Development Department
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RESOLUTION NO. 89-157
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CiTY OF
TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA, UPHOLDING THE PLA)JNING
COMMISSION'S ACTION TO DENY A PORTION OF VARIANCE
89-10, A REQUEST TO AUTHORIZE A) TENANT
IDENTIFICATION MONUMENT SIGN TWO FEET FROM FRONT
PROPERTY LINE; B) OFF-PREMISE WALL SIGNS; AND C)
REAR WALL SIGNS TO BE 75 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE,
LOCATED AT 13911 CARROLL WAY
The City Council of the City of Tustin does hereby resolve as follcws'
I. The City Council finds and determines as follows-
A. That a proper application Variance 89-10 has been filed on
behalf of Tustln Retail Liraited, requesting approval to
install a tenant identification monument sign within the
front setback and requesting approval of Signs exceeding tr, e
size limitations at 12911 Carroll Way.
B. That a public hearing was duly called, noticed and held for
said application on August 28, 1989, by the Planning
Commission, at which time the Commission adopted Resolution
No. 2669 denying a portiorLoof Variance 89-10.
C. That an appeal of the Planning Commission's action has been
filed by Tustin Retail Limited.
D. That a public hearing to consider the appeal of said action
was duly called, noticed and held on October 16, 1989.
E. That the City Council h~s reviewed the request, for a 35
square foot monument sign to be located two (2) feet from
the front property line and has determined that the Variance
from the standards cannot be supported by the following
findings:
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There are no exceptional circumstances applicable to
the subject property which deprive this property of
privileges enjoyed by others in the vicinity and under
similar circumstances in that the site is of a regular
shape, topography and size similar to others in the
vicinity and no other property along 17th Street has a
tenant identification monument sign of this size which
is parallel to or located within 2 feet from the front
property line.
2. There are no conditions that could be applied to this
sign that will assure that a two (2) foot setback will
not constitute a grant of special privileges
inconsistent with limitations upon other properties in
the vicinity in that the size, height and location of
the sign close to the access drive, sidewalk, street
and freeway interchange create a cluttered streetscape
and potential traffic hazard.
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3. The gra.ntlng of a Variance to permit the monument sign
to be two feet .from the front property line would be
materially detrimental to adjacent and surrounding
properties, In that a two (2) foot setback for the
monument slgn located adjacent to the driveway will
constitute a vlsual trafftc hazard, wi11 reduce the
visual stght distance and ts wlthtn an area of future
street widening.
4. The granting of this Variance would be contrary to the
goals and policies of the General Plan in that the
goals of the Circulation Element are to coordinate the
circulation system with planned land uses' and to
promote the safe and effective movement of traffic.
F. That the City Council has reviewed the request to permit
off-premise business identification wall signs on the west
side of Building t, and to exceed the size limitations for
the signs located on the west side of Building 1, and has
determined that a Variance from the standards cannot be
supported for the followiQg reasons'
1. There are no unusual or exceptional circumstances
applicable to the shape, size, topography, location or
intended use of the subject property which do n. ot
necessarily apply to other properties in the same
zoning district in that the subject property could be
developed with signs that meet the size limitations of
the Tustin Sign Code and provide for adequate
visibility.
2. Granting the requested Variance would convey a special
privilege to the property owner which is not enjoyed by
other property owners in the same zoning district ~in
that all other property owners must co~ply with the
requirements of ~the Zoning and Sign Codes when
developing or altering their sites.
3. The granting of this Variance may. be materially
detr. imental to adjacent and surrounding properties, in
that the increased size of signs on the subject
property may result in a visual and aesthetic nuisance
to traffic and neighboring properties. In addition,
approval of the Variance will set a precedence for
other commercial shopping centers on Seventeenth
Street.
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4. The granting of this Variance would be contrary to the
General Plan in that the Scenic Highways Element of the
General Plan requires that signs oriented toward the
freeway system shall be in compliance with the City of
Tustin Sign Ordinance.
G. That the request includes a Use Variance to permit the
off-premises signs on the rear of Building 1 which is not
permitted by State Planning Law.
II. The City Council hereby upholds the Planning Commission action to
deny a portion of Variance 89-10 a request to authorize: a)
tenant identification monument sign two feet from front property
line; b) .off-premise wall signs; and c) rear wall signs to be
75 square feet in size, located at 13911 Carroll Way. All
conditions of approval contained in Planning Commission
Resolution No. 2669 shall remain in effect.
PASSED AND ADOPTED at a regular City Council meeting held on the
day of , 1989.
URSULA E.' KEIqNEb~
Mayor
City Clerk
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Pt. nning Commission o olutt'on
RESOLUTION NO. 2669
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CiTY OF TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A PORTION
OF VARIANCE 89-10, AUTHORIZING THE INSTALLATION
OF A' 35 SQUARE FOOT CENTER IDENTIFICAT~Oh
MONUMENT SIGN TO BE LOCATED SEVEN (7) FEET FROM
THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE (WHEN THE ZONING CODE
REQUIRES A MINIMUM 15 FOOT SETBACK), SUBJECT TO
CONDITIONS, AND DENYING ALL OTHER ASPECTS OF THE
VARIANCE REQUEST AT 13911 CARROLL WAY
The Planning Commission of the City of Tustin does hereby resolve as
fol 1 ows:
I. The Planning Commission finds and determines as follows:
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That a proper application Variance 89-10 has been filed on
behalf of Tustin Retail Limited, requesting approval to
install a tenant identification monument sign within the
front setback and requesting approval of signs exceeding the
size limitations at 13911 Carroll Way.
B. That a public he~ring was duly called, noticed and held for
said application on August 28, 1989.
C. That t~e Planning Commission has reviewed' t~e request for a
35 square foot monument sign to be located two (2) feet from
the front property line and Ooes not feel it is
appropriate. However, the Planning Commission believes that
a variance from the minimum front setback to allow a center
identification monument sign to be located seven (7) feet
from the front property line can be supported by t~e
following findings:
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There are unusual or exceptional circumstances
applicable to the size, shape, topography, location or
intended use of the subject property which do not
necessarily apply to other properties in she same
zoning district in that t~e subject shopping center was
designed to incorporate the existing Mimi's Restaurant
to improve on-site circulation, parking and to visually
appear as one project.
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Granting of the Variance to reduce the front setback
for the monument sign would not convey a special
privilege to the property owner which is not enjoyed by
other property owners in the vicinity because other
shopping centers along Seventeenth Street have been
allowed to establish monument signs within the setback
area.
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The granting of a Variance would not be materially
detrimental to adjacent and surrounding properties, in
that a seven (7) foot setback will not constitute a
visual hazard and is not in an area of future widening.
ATTACHMENTA
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Resolution No. 2669
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The granting of this Variance would no: be contrary to
the goals and policies of the General Plan.
D. That the Planning Com~nisslon has reviewed the request to
permit two tenant identification signs on the monument sign
on SeventeenTh Street and to exceed the size limitations for
the signs located on ti~.e west side of building 1, the east
side of buildings 2 and 3 and the south side of building 3
and has determined Shat a Variance from the standards cannot
be supported for the following reasons:
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There are no unusual or exceptional circumstances
applicable to the shape, size, topograpr, y, loca:ion or
intended use of the subject property which do not
necessarily apply to other properties in the same
zoning district in :hat the subject property could be
developed with signs that meet the size limitations of
the Tustin Sign Code and provide for adequate
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visibility.
2. Granting the reques.ted Variance would convey a special
privilege to the pr6perty owner which is no: enjoyed by
other property owners in the same zoninu district in
that all other property owners must co;,;.~ly with the
requirements of the Zoning and -Sign CoQes when
developing or altering their sites.
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The granting of this Variance may L~e materially
detrimental to adjacent and surrounding [,eoperties, in
that the increased size of signs oa the subject
property may result in a visual and aesthetic nuisance
to traffic and neighboring properties, including
residential properties to the north of the subject
proper~y that would be subjected to larger signs as a
result of this Variance. In addition, ap;>roval of ~he
Variance will set a precedence for ether commercial
shopping centers on Seventeenth Street.
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The granting of this Variance would be cc:;trary to ~he
General Plan in that the Scenic Highways Element of
General Plan requires ~hat signs oriented towaro the
freeway system shall be in compliance wi:n ~he City of
Tustin Sign Ordinance.
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That :he request incluUes a Use Variance :o permit the
off-premises signs on the rear of building i and to permit a
sign on the south side of building 1, which is not permitted
by State Planning Law.
Resolution No. 2669
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II. The Planning Commission hereby approves a portion of Variance
89-10 aul;horizing the ins~alla%ion of a 35 square foo~ censer
i den %i fi ca si on monumen: sign ~o be locased wiShin She front
setback, subjec~ :o the condi%ions contained in Exhibi: A and
at~ached hereto and denies all o'cher Variance requests.
PASSED AND ADOPTED a% a regular Planning Commission meel;ing on 1;he
281;h day of Augusl;, 1989.
Leslie A. Pon~.ious
Chairman
EXHIBIT A
RESOLUTION NO. 2669
Conditions of Approval
Variance 89-10 (Portion)
GENERAL
The proposed project shall substantially conform to submitted plans date
stamped August 28, 1989 on file with the Community Development Department
as herein modified or as modified by the Director of Community Development.
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Unless otherwise specified, conditions in this exhibit shall be complied
with prior to issuance of any building permits for the project, subject to
review and approval by the Community Development Department.
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Variance approval shall become null and void unless sign permits and all
construction is completed within twelve (12) months of the date of this
exhibit.
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Approval of Variance 89-10 is contingent upon the applicant signing and
returning an "Agreement to Conditions Imposed" form as established by the
Director of Community Development.
5. At building plan check submittal-and prior to issuance of sign permits:
a ·
The applicant shall provide two copies of plans including site plan,
fully dimensioned and detailed elevations, attachment methods and
electrical details for approval of the Building Official. All
components shall be U.L. listed.
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The sign plans shall be modified to relocate the sign to the West,
perpendicular to the street, in front of the existing building, a
minimum of seven (7) feet from the front property line.
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Provide payment of all required fees as applicable including plan
check and permit fees to Community Development Department.
6. The sign program shall be modified to conform to all other provisions of
the Tustin Sign Code, with the exception of the minimum setback for the
center identification monument sign located on Seventeenth Street· Said
sign program shall incorporate the following:
a.
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Monument Sign - The monument sign along Seventeenth Street shall be,
relocated to west, perpendicular to the street, in front of the
existing building, and shall maintain a'minimum seven (7) foot setback
from the front property line. Said sign shall be redesigned to
eliminate all tenant identification· Final location is subject to the
approval of the Director of Community Development·
Freeway Signs - A maximum of eight (8) tenants located within building
I may have signage on the rear (west) elevation of the building,
facing the freeway· All such signs shall be a maximum of 5% of the
wall area or no. more than 25 square feet in size. Upon final
completion of the building or future alterations of the tenant space,
all provisions of the Tustin Sign Code shall apply.
Exhibit A
Resol uti on No. 2669
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c. Major Tenant Signs - A maximum of three major tenant signs may be
located on the upper facia of building 1, as indicated in the sign
program.
d. Minor Tenant Signs - Minor tenants within building 1, shall locate.
signage on the lower front facia on east elevation. No minor tenant
signs shall be permitted on the upper front facia.
e.
Building 3 South Elevations - Tenants.of building 3 shall be permitted
to place signs on the south elevation, the maximum size shall be 5% of
the wall area or not to exceed 25 square feet subject to the Tustin
Sign Code
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Buildings 2 and 3, East Elevation - The corner tenant of buildings 2
and 3 facing Carroll Way, may have one sign on the east elevation, the
maximum size shall be 5% of the wall area or not to exceed 25 square
feet, subject to provisions of the Tustin Sign Code.
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The applicant/property owner shall assume all costs of relocating the
monument sign on Seventeenth Street at such time that the City of
Tustin deems necessary to widen Seventeenth Stree't to its-ultimate
major arterial right-of-way width of 120 feet, as designated on the
City and County Master Plan of Arterial Highways.
'SP:pef
· August 28, 1989
P[anl '
,g Commission
Smith, representing the architect, noted that the encroachment lnto
,d not been approved yet, but they .were-waiting for Caltrans to
site w' n the next two weeks, and would notify staff as soon as they
1 ocatl on si gn.
Commissioner eune asked if the applicant had given any con
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Mr. Smt th repli ed
Commissioner Shaheen as
~e owners dl d not wish to lower lgn.
the sign was two'sided. ..,
Mr. Smith affirmed.
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Commissioner Le Jeun~e asked about
an~ if it ~ould remain; also how
Freeway.
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Mr. Smith replied that the copy for
copy o
The public hearing was closed at
7 p.m.
Commissioner Shaheen noted
~om~ ~'tme, it ~houl~ not
Commissioner Shaheen
adopt
Item I. C
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Dye the
the exact
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sign stating "Turn off next ramp
ned to southbound traffic on the 55
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traffic stated "Banquet Rooms."
since the Revere H has been in Tustln fop quite
~nalized by the wi den, ng 'freeway.
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, Lb Jeune seconded to approve ;e Permit 89-26 by the
th the owing revisions:
should re-a-d: -"'The "sign relocation site sba
ltrans and the Tustln Public Works Department."
Exh' A, Item 1.5 should read: "Caltrans approval of the si
s 1 be submitted to the Community Development Departmen
ssuance of building permits."
subject to the
ocation
riot to
M, on carrted. 4-0.
VARIANCE 89-10
)LICANT:
PROP'ERTY
OWNER:
LOCATION:
ZONING:
ENVIRONMENTAL .....
STATUS:
REQUEST:
LATHAM & WATKINS/BOB BREAK
650 'TOWN CENTER DRIVE
COSTA ME.SA,..CALIF~3RNIA 92.626
TUSTIN RETAIL LIMITED/GERALD MISUREK
2100 SE MAIN STREET; SUITE 400
IRVINE, CALIFORNIA 92714
13911, 13931 AND 13951 CARROLL WAY
SEVENTEENTH STREET (MIMI 'S SITE)
RETAIL COMMERCIAL (C-l) .
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CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT
APPROVAL OF A SIGN PROGPJJ~I THAT VARIES FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF
· THE TUSTIN SIGN CODE REGARDING SIZE AND LOCATIONS OF VARIOUS
SIGNS :
A TTA CHMENT A
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Recommendation: It is recommended that the Planning Commission approve Variance
89Llb' for th~'monument sign only by adopting Reso'lution No. 2669, as submitted or
re vi seal.
Presentation: Sara Pashalldes, Associate Planner
Commissioner Shaheen stated :ha: he felt :hat there should be no signs pos:ed on the
freeWay' ~ide'of the buildings.
Staff noted that tenants within Building I would be permitted to have signage along
the rear of the building; the applicant is also requesting that the tenants of
Buildings 2 and 3, .which face the parking lot, have signage along the freeway; the
Code only allows for rear building signage for tenants of that building...
The public hearing .opened at 7:20 p.m.
Gerald Misurek, applicant, commented that until his development began, this site had
been a dustbowl, and a gathering place for rubble; they are trying to create a unique
u-shaped "homey" center; if they had fronted this center to 17th Street, it would
have been fronted to ...the. backside, of.--the service station; it was at staff's
suggestion that they" return to the Commission after design review and receipt of
building permits. This center is extremely unique, with numerous constraints; such
as being an in-fill parcel of 2.4 acres, the site is bounded on the north by a
residential area; and that the site required noise polution, adequate landscape
buffer, and the rear side design features for the buildings to reduce impacts which
could affect~ the residences. They are bounded on the west s~de by the freeway, and
on the southside they have limited access by Mfmi's Cafe and a lack of access, on.the
back. side of the. service station; they 'also had to li'ne u-p 'driveways from their
center to the driveways of the Tustin French Quarter. Regarding the various
requests, they are asking for: Two (2) monument signs--one on' 17th Street and one on
Carroll Way which could be seen from either direction. The location proposed by
Staff for the 17th Street sign would be more toward the restaurant than initially
proposed, it would be of very little use to people since it would be seen as they are
passing the center and would require them to turn around. They have asked for
signage along the freeway that is consistent with the signs in the area. A potential
tenant, First Team Real Estate, whose lease is contingent on adequate signage, will
be competing with a three-foot high sign for Tarbell Realtors across the freeway.
They are requesting major signage for the three (3) tenants of Building I and minor
signage for up to five (5) minor tenants in Building 3. He has outlined his maximum
tenancy for the building on his presentation, but would probably only have four (4)
tenants requesting slgnage on the rear of the building. He has also tried to
restrict the type of signage on the rear of tile building, calling for a two (2) foot
letter size to-keep consistency to the signs. He felt that the ordinances possibly
did not consider centers that ilave frontage on the freeway, but this should be
addressed at this time. Because they are located away from 17th Street, they should
be allowed to provide adequate competitive signage. He noted that none of the
slgnage would affect the residential properties; that there are various types of
signage along the freewaY ,(Revere House, for example);.and that it should not be
detrimental to Mimi's Cafe, the service station, or Tustin French Quarter.
"ommlss.ioner Sha..hee~n asked how many total signs would be in the center.
_Mr. Mlsurek replied that there were quite a few, but noted thal~ they were tucked away
from traffic.
Plannlng Commission Minutes
August 28, [989
Page flve
Commissioner. Kasparia.n asked for a clarification of the original sign concept.
The Director replied that the sign plan submitted complied with the code': on a rear
building facing the.-.freeway or~'ark-lng lO'c, signs were limited to'business identifi-
cation not to exceed 25 square feet, or 56 of the wall area per business. The direc-
tory monument location at the Carroll Way entrance; and the front elevations of the
buildings were limited to 64 square feet per business.
Co.m. mtssto~ner Kasparian asked for a clarification of the variance being requested.
The Director replied that they are asking for proposed s.igns__on the rear elevation of
'Building [ (building parallel to the free'way) to have 75 square foot signs for major
tenants and 20 square foot signs for minor tenants which are located in Buildings 2
and 3. The code only permits a maximum of 25 square feet per tenant and would only
allow building identification for tenants in Building 1. They are also requesting
that the east sides of Buildings 2 and 3 have signs of 30 square feet, with the code
only permitting 25 square feet per tenant; for the rear elevation of Building 3 they
are requesting 30 square feet, with a maximum of 25 square feet permitted. They also
want an additional monument sign along 17th Street even though the Code would only
permit one (1) monument identification sign for a shopping center.
Mr. Misurek commented that they went i~rom 25 to 30 square feet due to the setback; he
~ontends"that the Code did not consider that stores would have a front and a back
requiring adequate signage; other centers developed along the freeway have their
usual logo and signage; it is difficult to kdow the tenants' needs prior to leasing;
75 square foot request is for maximum use; they intend to keep order to the si gnage
with two-foot letters, while presenting the tenants as best they can.
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Bob Break, Latham and Watkins~ passed out a rebuttal to the staff report to the
Co~nmis~ioners outlining' his feeling that the requirements set by the staff are more
restrictive than the Code intended. He noted that the Code states "the privileges
enjoyed by other properties in. the vicinity and under 'similar circumstances to this
particular project" and hoped the Commission would understand that the question was
whether there was a practical and fair basis for allowing the requested variance.
The circumstances presented are that they- are a relatively unique center; are
fronted on the freeway; are confronted 'on the other side of the freeway with signs
approved by Santa Aha; have tenants demanding the right to install signs on the rear
of Buildi. ng 1; are across from Tustin. French.. Quarter whose sig-n-s~.~re-well beyond the
city's Code allowances; they are asking for the same advantage as the French Quarter'
and be able to compete fairly. They are asking for a maximum of 75 square feet for
the rear of Building 1, as a convenient check point; they invite the City to impose 'a
two-foot limit as a condition to the Variance. Regarding the request to put signs
for Buildings 2 ~nd 3 on the rear of Building 1, he was unable to find a definition
in the Sign Code for off-premise slgnage that suggested that their request was for
off-premise signage, since the buildings are all part of one center. He noted that
the request for 30 square foot signs for Building 3 was well within the standards set
by the Tustin French Quarter project.
Commissioner Le Jeune noted that the Tarbell Realty building was under the jurisdic-
tioh' of the Santa Aha Sign Code, and has nothing to do with Tustin.
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Mr. Break replied that since it was a competitor in their vicinity, it should be a
YactOr to be taken into account.
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Planning Commission Mi
August 28, [:989
Page six
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Commissioner KasParlan asked If the photograph examples presented by Mr. Break were
/o~F 30 square foot sig~s; and asked staff for their oplnlon of the size of the Tustin
French Quarter signs.
Mr. Break replled that they were much larger.
The 'Director replted that 'the project was approved pursuant to the Sign Code and that
staff would have to check each sign to understand how they determined the individual
copy area. In many cases, they are separately mounted .and may have been calculated
based on the hlghest 'letter helght. There ls no helght limit. The area Is boxed
around the htghest and lowest letters for calcula.tlon purposes. Staff would also
look at the issue of the rear of the building In relatl.on to a tenant not In that
bulldlng havlng an off-premise sign. There was not a determination that this would
be an off-premise slgn, stnce the premise is the development property. The applica-
tion was previously discussed wlth the City Attorney's office and it was clear based
upon interpretation and advice that business Identification ls located either on a
monument sign or above the tenancy on the building. 'Staff could provlde legal advice
tn a separate memo.
_Commissioner Shaheen asked tf the signs. In question at the French Quarter were the
tenant signs. '~
Ir. Break replled afflrmatlvely; and noted that-'the Miller's Outpost sign exceeds the
7~ foot limits. He' noted that the recognlze.d front of the project Is well set
back from iTth Street due to the gas statlon; the visibility is not.valuable without
a slgn; th'at the center needs to be a successful project, and should not be artific-
Ially condemned to a medl'ocre status. -' ' ' .
The public hearing was closed at 7:50 p.m.
_Commissioner Le Jeune asked if staff kne~ if the French Quarter had been issued
variances, ~r not.
The Director replied that she was not aware of any variances for the French Quarter
signs; and that their situation was different in that the buildings face a front
elevation and are permitted up to 64 square feet.
The public hearing was reopened at 7:5! p.m.
_Jack Briton, representing the manufacturer of Tustln French Quarter, noted that there
was no variance involved. They are all within the allowed footage of the particular
time that they were installed. Miller's Outpost is 4 foot by 35 foot sign which is
140 square feet. At the time, the Code read that due to the volume of square footage
and frontage, this size was allowed.
The public hearing was closed at 7:52 p.m.
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_mmissioner Shaheen noted that since the project is right across, from. the French
quarter, it lo6k-s' a~ though it is part of the same center. He noted that signs flat
against the building along the freeway are dangerous, since they require motorists to
look directly at the building to read the signs; that the City has approved some
double-sided signs; that promotion should be for the entire center, and should not.
put signs all o'ver the center; that the signs as indicated on the drawings were not
in conformance with the Sign Code.
Plannlng Commlsslon Mi ;s
August 28, 1989
Page seven
Commissioner Le Jeune asked for a clarification of the proposed location of the
monument sig~' on 17th Street; and even if placed in the proposed location, if it
requires a variance.
Staff replied 1:hat they propose to relocate it in front of Mimi's Cafe in a much
larger landscaped area which would make it more visible.
Commissioner Pontious asked if the Director was suggesting a continuance. 'She also
noted that ~he'~l'p~llcant had indicated that. in moving the monument sign on 17th
Street it would lack visibility, but she felt that a perpendicular sign would be more
visible. .
The Director replied that the applicant's representative noted that the French'
Quarter permits were in compliance with the Sign Code, resolving the issue.
.Commmisslon.er Sh.a.heen suggested that the staff look at the project further.
Commissioner Kasparian felt that the proposed relocation of the sign would make it so
'that it Was seen as the customers were passing the center, and should possibly be
moved closer to the entrance. -
The Director noted that the entire length was reView,ed with the Public Works Depart-
ment and the Engineering Manager. Since this-'is at a freeway off-rampj and there is
other sign clutter for the service station and other obstructions, it would create a
potential problem.
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Commissioner Kasparian asked if any'sign was better than no sign, regardless of where
It is located.
The Director replied that there is a tremendous volume generated east and west along
17th Street, not counting the freeway ramp, that would provide some advantage.
Commissioner pontious asked for a clarification of the off-premise signs.
The Director replied that the interpretation of the sign ordinance was that a direc-
tory for businesses can be located in the monument, however, the actual tenant
identification is limited to the location of that tenant.
Com~..issloner Shaheen asked if they could have a directory on a monument sign; and if
all tenants are to be on one monument, sign.
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The Director replied that it could be in a monument or pole sign; and that it was up
to the applicant to determine what they want on a directory. They have the ability
to have a directory of all tenants pursuant to the"classification of the icode and
whether that is described as a multl-t~nant shopping center.
t_ommissioner Pon~ious asked if they would be allowed to apply for 'a pole sign.
The Director replied that since they are within 500 feet of a freeway, they would be
allowed to apply for a conditional use. permit for a freeway orientation sign.
..Commissioner Shaheen asked if this would be a two-faced.sign.
Planning Commission Mi
August 28, 1989
Page ei §hr
The Director noted that freeway pole signs are only permitted for auto-related
businesses such as gas stations and restaurants.
Commissioner Le Jeune moved, Kasparian seconded t.o approve Variance 89-10 for the
monument sign only by the adoption of Resolution-No 2669. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Pontious noted that the applicant could appeal the decision to the City
C'ouncil wit'hin seven (7) days.
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Amendment to Final Tract Map 12870 Street Vacation Request Design Review
8'8-67 ' '
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OWNER'
LOCATION'
ZONING-
ENVIRONMENTAL
STATUS'
REQUEST:
THE IRVINE COMPANY
P.O. BOX I
NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658-8904
THE IRVINE COMPANY
SECTOR 8 OF TUSTIN RANCH, TRACT 12870
PLANNED COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL:
ID MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC
- LOW
D REVIEW 88-67 HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE CAT CALLY EXEMPT
(CLA 3) PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SE( 15303 OF THE
CALIFO A ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITy ACT. THE AME TO FINAL TRACT
MAP IS MINISTERIALLY EXEMPT THE PROPOS STREET VACATION HAS
BEEN DETEI TO BE CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT UANT TO THE PROVISIONS
OF SECTION i (B.3) OF CALIFORNIA ENVI QUALITY ACT.
AUTHORIZATION (1) AMEND FINAL MAP 12870 TO ACCOMMODATE
PRIVATE ENTRY 'ROVEMENTS AND; (2) ACATE FAIRGATE DRIVE AND A
PORTION OF RAWLINI WAY, TO BECOME STREETS AND; (3) CONSTRUCT
PRIVATE ENTRIES AN IHANCED STRE LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE
INTERSECTIONS OF TUi RANCH D iAND FAIRGATE DRIVE AND FAIRGATE
DRIVE AND RAWLINGS WAY.
Recommendation. It is reco~nended that qanning Commission. 1) Determine that
the vacation of Fairgate {"Township"} a port'ion of Rawlings Way for private
street purposes, is consistent with City' .~neral Plan, by adopting Resolution
No. 2662, as submitted or revise !} Recommen( )proval of an amendment to Fina-1
Tract Map 12870 to the City Cou by adopting ~tion No. 2665, as .submitted or
revised; and 3) Approve Des Review 88-67 by ng Resolution No 2664 as
submitted or revised. ' ' '
Presentation' steVe
~ Associate Planner
Staff made revisi to the staff report, as moved.
Commissioner rian asked if there was to be a public telepho
entry only )d not one at the main gate.
t the secondary
Jtaff ied that there would only be a call box with a key pad at
ent .e for security purposes.
e secondary
public hearing was opened at 8:21 p.m.
Manchester Developme. Corporation
GERALD S. MISUREK
Senior Vice President
Real Estate Development
September 26, 1989
Ms. Sara Pashalides
City of Tustin
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, California 92680
Re: Appeal of' Resoluti0n-~F2669 ....
Approving a Portion of Variance 89-10
Dear Ms. Pashalides:
With respect to ou~ appeal of the above noted Planning Commission
resolution, it is our intent to request reconsideration of
elements of the resolution as relating to: ....
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1. The monument sign on Seventeenth Street. The sign and
location as allowed serves -no purpose in an out-of-the-way .
location, visible only after passing the center entrance.
We therefor request signage as shown in the attached sheets
1 and 5. Monumentation on C~rroll Way will~ only be for
center identification, thus only one monument sign will have
tenant identification.
2. The signage which was requested on the West face of
Building #1 is resubmitted for consideration.
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a) Major tenant signage (75 square feet) for three
occupants of Building #1.
b) Minor tenant signage (25 square feet) for any four
(4) tenants of the center.
The attached exhibits consisting of Sheets 1 through 5 denote
both the signage as allowed by the resolution and also the
signage which is the subject of this appeal.
..
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Sincerely,
Senior Vice President
Real Estate Development
c:\jerry\tustin.lt5
*RECEIVED
COIt4,~IUIViTy D£V£LoP~II£NT
A TTA CHMENT B
2100 SOUTH EAST MAIN STREET, SUITE 400 * IRVINE, CALIFORNIA 92714 * TELEPHONE (714) 852-9770 (800) 421-8111
Proposed Sign Prog,'a m
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Inter- Corn
TO:
Sara Pashalides
FROM: Jerry Crabill
SUBJECT: Placement of Monument Sign - Mimi's Plaza
Pursuant to your recent request, I have completed my evaluation of the
proposed location of the monument sign at Mimi's Plaza.
Please be aware that the intersection of 17th Street and Mimi's
driveway is one of the busiest and ranks as one of the higher accident
locations in the city. There is high traffic volume activity on 17th
as well as the freeway on/off ramp locations and Mimi's driveway.
Although the intersection is signalized, the monument sign as proposed
would become a factor in future accidents.
The sign will be a solid 6' x 10~ "wall" that by itself will reduce
the sight distance of both entering and exiting traffic. If it were
constructed, the city could expect additional accidents related to it-
particularly at or near the driveway. ,o
My recommendation is to deny the proposal. A better location would be
away from the driveway and near the south side of Mimi's Restaurant.
Jerry ~abil~/
Consulting Traffic Engineer
JC: mv
A ITA CHMENT D