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September 11, 1984
The ~etlng was ca~led ~ order by Chatrman ~htte at 7:30 p.m. tn
Counct~ Chamber, 300 Centennla~ Nay, Tusttn, California.
ROLL CALL'
the
Commissioners
Present:
Ronald White, Chat'rman
Kathy Well, Chairman Pro Tem
Charles Puckett
James Sharp
John J. McCarthy
Commissioners
Absent:
Also present:
~one -
Donald D. Lamm, Director of Community Development
Alan Warren, Senior Planner
Mary Ann Cha~erlatn, Associate Planner
Suzanne Atktns, Deputy City Attorney
PLEDGE OF A;tFGXAN~J[/I#¥OC~TIO#
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sharp and the Invocation
was given by Commissioner Puckett.
MINUTES
Moved b7 Chairman Wetl~ second b7 Sharp, to approve the minutes of the
meeting of August 27, 1984.
PUBLIC CONCER~.
Steve Markl, Tusttn Meadows
comment on Use Permit 84-20.
Hearing section of the agenda.
Homeowners Association, requested time to
He was directed to speak during the Public
CONSENT CALENDAR
gone.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. USE-PERMIT NO. 84-20
Applicant: Pacific Bell Telephone Co.
Location: Southwest corner of Red Hill and Edinger Avenues
Request: Authorization to develop an office complex consisting of
four buildings each three stories in height on a 20 acre site.
Presentation: Donald D. Lamm, Director of Community Development
Don Lamm summarized the last Commission meeting and the Commission's
consideration of this use permit. He explained that staff notified the
Tusttn Meadows, Peppertree and Laurelwood homeowner associations-
Chairman White opened the public hearing at 7:35 p.m. The following persons
spoke concerning Use Permit 84-20:
Steve Markl, Tustin Meadows Homeowners Association, explained the Board has
reviewed the project plans and expressed their support. The concerns are:
1) Oppose the widening of Red Hill east of the railroad tracks through I-5
interchange because of the close proximity of a school and the pedestrian
traffic generated by the school. The sidewalk area is not very wide and by
widening Red Hill it would put traffic too close to the sidewalk. 2)
Exposure to the central portion of Tusttn to a secondary corridor being
formed to the I-5 in addition to the 55 freeway. We would be providing an
alternative to the freeway where the traffic should be located; not through
our City. 3) Proposed the signals * at Sycamore and
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September 11, 1984
page two
Walnut remain as they are. 4) The proposed main entrance.to the project
on Industrial Drive which empties onto Redhill' would generate more rush
hour traffic. Suggested the main entrance be located on Edtnger to direct
the traffic to the 55 freeway or around through Myford Road so traffic
could go around residential areas.
Commissioner Well pointed out that Pacific Bell is proposing a traffic
light on £dinger.
Philip Schwartze, Philip, Brandt, Reddick, responded to Mr. Markl's
concerns. The requirements of the project for an entrance respond to
issues and concerns that arose during the environmental process. The
entrance will be off of £dtnger and includes a secondary access on
Edtnger. There is a request for a signalized intersection at Industrial
Drive.
Commissioner Well questioned the report from Austin & Foust concerning
mitigation measures, i.e., striping of a third north bound lane resulting
in a level of service identical to that which presently exists.
Terry Austin, Austin & Foust, referred' to page two, 'second paragraph and
explained that the added traffic of this project would degrade the level of
service, the mitigation measures would bring back the level of service to
what it is now.
Commissioner Wetl disputed that because the northbound lane would only
extend three blocks.
Mr. Austin explained that it will mitigate the impact at that location~
upstream are other mitigtion measures. They hmve taken the impact all the
way to I-5. The process is to look at the problem at each of the
intersections, see what would happen with or without the project, if in
fact the project creates a problem that doesn't exist and then propose a
mitigation measure. You may not find the same mitigation measure in each
intersection. It may seem inconsistent, but it is .consistent whe~ each of
the intersections are examined individually.
Commissioner Wetl was further concerned about compounding the existing
problems.
Mr. Austin explained that Redhtll will continue to be one of the highest
traffic arterials through the City. Methods to improve: short run, bring
Redhlll to its full six lane capacity~ long run, the traffic will increase
by more than 100% over the next 15 years. We need to look at the problem,
possible improvements and obtain funding.
Commissioner Sharp asked for comment on whether staggering work hours would
help reduce the peak hour traffic and if it can be made a condition of the
use permit.
Mr. Austin responded that staggered work hours is one of the most effective
tools for reducing peak hour traffic. There would be legal, monitoring and
enforcement problems involved in making it a condition of the use permit.
Mr. Austin further explained that the intent was to show that the proposed
project is of a lower traffic generation level than would be allowed under
the General Plan. The General Plan, because it is industrial zoning and
allows for up to 50% office for any one development, would give the
greatest square footage and would have a different mix than is being
proposed. The General Plan allows a greater floor area ratio.
Don Lamm elaborated on the General Plan and explained the maximum that
could be allowed on the site.
Discussion ensued concerning the peak traffic hour times; morning 7:30
a.m..to 8:30 a.m., afternoon 4:15 p.m. to 5:15 p.m.
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September 11, 1984
page three
Steve Markl commented that the three lane conversion into two by the Marine
Base is a mess: backing traffic up past Dyer Road and doesn't see the logic
in trying to duplicate that in front of a residential area and school.
Chairman White wondered why, if there is room now for three lanes, they are
trying to eliminate .it with restrictive right turn lanes. Mr. Lamm
explained that the tnten~ is to do the three full lanes to Walnut Avenue.
At Walnut we are restricted by the Ntsson property.
Mr. Markl completed his comments wondering why we don't force the traffic
to be where it belongs; on the 55 and 5, and not bring it through our city.
Philip Schwartze commented that their plan is to include staggered work
hours from 7:15 a.m. to 8:30 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. to 5:30 p.m.
Chairman- White closed the public hearing at 8:09 p.m. Commission
discussion ensued concerning traffic and car pooling. Commissioner Well
questioned if we could include an air quality management plan in the
conditions. Mr. Lamm explained it is required by law.
Mr. Lamm further explained that the Redhtll and Edtnger signals with the
Edinger/55 on and off ramp signal and again the new signal located mid-way
along Edinger will be either interconnected or timed to create a flow of
traffic. The Redhill signals have the interconnect mechanisms. The new
signal at Industrial and Redhill can be tied directly to the interconnect
system. Edtnger does not have an interconnect .system because of the
Caltrans signal. It will probably be a timing situation.
In response to Chairmen White, Don Lamm explained that the assessment
district was considered and contracts issued to Austin Foust. We will have
a rough estimate of the overall regional traffic improvement expenses and a
rough fee for Pacific Bell by the first building permit issuance. If it ,is
not, they cannot obtain any further permits until the district is
finalized. The Planning Commission will be considering this subject in the
Specific Plan No. 7 in late October, early Nove~er.
Puckett moved, Sharp second approval of Use Permit 84-20. Commissioner
Well amended the motion to add conditions to Exhibit A to include an air
quality management and traffic plan to be submitted to Commission or
Council before building permits may be pulled. The traffic plan should
include provisions for staggered work hours, car pool plans and/or van
pools. The maker of the me,)on and the seconder agreed to the amendment.
5-0 vote.
AI)MI#ISll~TIV£ MATrERS
A. Old
Business
Su.._m~.._ry Report on Commission Workshop/Alcoholic Beverage Licenses
Oon Lamm presented staff's report as contained in Report to
Planning Commission dated September l~, ~984. He will prepare a
report to the City Council recommending ways the zoning ordinance
can or cannot be amended. The City Council can then provide the
Planning Commission with direction on how to proceed.
Sharp moved, Well second to adopt the Don Lamm"s recommendation to
await City Council direction on how to proceed. 5-0
B. New Business
None
Plannlng Commission Minutes
September [[, [984
page four
STAFF CONCERNS
1. Report on Councfl Actions September 5, 1984.
Oral Presentation: Alan Warren, Sentor Planer
2. Departmen-tal Status Report
Oral Presentation: Alan Warren, Senior Planner
C0ggISS[0# CONCERNS
Commissioner Well questioned whether Marie Callendint's had too many stgns.
Don Lamm brtefly explained the auto center plans and the current status of
the project.
ADJOUR#1~#T
Moved by Sharp, ~econded by getl to adjourn at 8:34 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled Planntng Commission meeting. 5-0
RONALD H. WHI~,
Chairman
DONNA ORR,
Recording Secretary