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Minutes of Regular Meeting
January 18, 1982
The Planning Agency held a regular meeting Monday, January 18, 1982,
at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the City Hall, 300 Centennial
Way, Tustin, California.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Sharp at 3:03 p.m.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mr. Edgar and the invocation was
given by Mr. Hoesterey.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
SHARP, EDGAR, HOESTEREY, KENNEDY, SALTARELLI
None.
Others:
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William Huston, City Manager
Michael Brotemarkle, Community Development Director
James Rourke, City Attorney
Mary Ann Chamberlain, Assoc. Planner, Recording Secretary
The minutes of the regular meetings held December 21 1981, and January
4, 1982 were approved as submitted.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. USE PERMIT 81-35
APPLICANT: Arthur & Zeny Remegio
LOCATION: 14752 Holt Avenue
REQUEST: Guest home for the aged.
The application for the above project was withdrawn by the applicants.
PUBLIC CONCERNS
Mr. Harold Jackson, an attorney in Tustin since 1974 urged the Agency
to publically oppose the Santiago Canyon Airport proposal. This site,
which is less than five miles from Tustin is being considered as a pos-
sible airport site by the staff of SCAG and a blue ribbon committee
appointed by the Board of Supervisors.
After a brief presentation by Mr. Jackson, Mr. Edgar stated that the
Agency would take no position at this point, only after a specific plan
is presented.
Mr. Sharp commented that when a EIR is submitted, then public hearings
will be held and public testimony taken.
OLD BUSINESS
I. Site Plan Review - Northwest corner Myford and Walnut
After a brief presentation of the staff report, Mr. Saltarelli stated
he was still concerned with the office being too great in the indus-
trial area.
Mr. Edgar questioned Mr. Brotemarkle what are the mechanics of guaran-
teeing that a building will not be developed with more than 50% office
space.
Mr. Brotemarkle informed that legal action would be taken by the Irvine
Co,any and the City of Tustin.
Mrs. Kennedy questioned if this particular project meets the code. Mr.
Brotemarkle answered in the affirmative and informed that no tenant has
been leased to at this time.
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January 18, 1982
Page 2
Moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar to approve Staff's recommendation.
MOTION CARRIED: 4-1
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Sharp, Hoesterery, Kennedy, Edgar
Saltarelli
NONE
NEW BUSINESS
1. Tentative Tract No. 11649
Moved by Edgar, seconded by Saltarelli to recommend approval to the
City Council of Tentative Tract No. 116¢9 by the adoption of Resolution
No. 2015.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0
AYES: Sharp, Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy,
Saltarelli
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
STAFF CONCERNS
Mr. Brotemarkle informed the Agency that Staff is monitoring the pro-
posed Santiago Canyon Airport site and will keep the Agency informed.
In May a report is due to be published on this site and other suggested
sites in the area.
Mr. Sharp commented that we need surveillance on this proposed airport
and will hold Staff responsible to keep the Agency informed.
AGENCY CONCERNS - None.
ADJOURNMENT - The meeting was adjourned at 3:35 p.m. to the 7:30 p.m.
meeting.
TUSTIN PLANNING AGENCY
Minutes of 7:30 p.m. Meeting
January 18, 1982
The Planning Agency was called to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Others:
SHARP, EDGAR, HOESTEREY, KENNEDY, SALTARELLI
None
William Huston, City Manager
Michael Brotemarkle, Community Development Director
MaN Ann Chamberlain,. Assoc. Planner, Recording Secretary
Bob Ledendecker,Director of Public Works/City Engineer
James Rourke, City Attorney
Charles Thayer, Chief of Police
Alan Warren, Senior Planner
Ed Knight, Associate Planner
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING
1. USE PERMIT 81-31
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
REQUEST:
Mangano, Messenbrink and DeCosta
14722 Newport Avenue
Authorization to operate an electronic game arcade
After the presentaton of the staff report the public hearing was opened
at 7:37 p.m.
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January 18, 1982
Page 3
Gerald Wolf, 17731 Irvine Blvd., Suite 108, Tustin, Attorney represent-
ing the applicant stated that they have met with the City staff and no
concensus of conditions had been met because some of the conditions
were excessive and unreasonable. Mr. Wolf stated that they do however
consent to eight of the ten conditions which were discussed at the
staff meeting:
1. Hours of operations; 11:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m., 7 days a week.
2. Only one entrance.
3. Separate security office.
4. Security plan which would be approved by Police Dept.
5. Police security background checks on all personnel.
6. Tokens to be used instead of cash (on machines).
7. The restaurant and gaming area would be construed as one
enterprise. If the restaurant would close, so would the
gaming area.
8. They would reduce the 45 machines to 30 in the gaming area.
The ninth condition discussed was that the permit would be valid for
one year only. The applicant thought this would be discrlminatory.
The tenth condition was that they would pay $40,000 annually for one
uniformed police officer. Mr. Wolf commented that the City did not
have any authority to request such a condition because it was arbitrary
and unconstitutional. He further stated that taxes have to be imposed
uniformly and not just on one person because the City has a gross
receipts tax for its business license.
Mr. Wolf stated that staff had presented unsupported conclusions; the
issue of young people congregating - there was no evidence that the
City would experience a higher crime rate. The Agency must determine
if the use is detrimental to health, safety and welfare of neighborhood
if they are going to deny the permit.
Mr. Ernest Young, 1162 Mear Lane, commented that perhaps the homeowners
should have also hired a lawyer to represent their case. Mr. Young
stated that this project is of grave concern to their residential
neigh- borhood since this use is not compatible for their neighborhood.
Chairman Sharp questioned staff if this project is categorically exempt
from the California Environmental Quality Act. The answer was in the
affirmative.
Mr. Jon Harrison, 14802 Newport Blvd., 4-D', President of the Sycamore
Gardens Homeowners Association stated that they have collected 123
signatures of residents in the area that are opposed to this project
being in this area. Mr. Harrison stated that they felt this building
would be better for some other commercial use and some other location
would be better for the gaming use.
Mr. Harrison further commented that this use would be too close to many
different schools. On Red Hill and Newport Avenue, south from the
freeway there are about 35 machines. Now the City would be doubling
that amount with only one extra business. Mr. Harrison felt that this
property was not properly zoned for this use. C-1 uses are designed
for services of the neighborhood and this use is not quite compatible.
He felt that this use should be in a C-2 or CG zone. Mr. Harrison felt
that E1Camino Plaza or Builders Emporium would be a better place and
properly zoned and requested the Agency to either deny this permit or
have them go into a more compatible area.
Roger Passaglia, 14082 Newport Avenue, #lB, commented that he doesn't
have as polished a defense as the attorney for the applicant but
questioned if the building is large enough to hold this use. He
further questioned the Sunday morning traffic and inadequate lighting
in the area.
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January 18, 1982
Page 4
The public portion of the hearing was closed at 8:10 p.m.
Discussion among the Council members centered around the location of
the proposed use, other similar uses and controls that could be placed
on the applicant.
Mr. Edgar commented that most cities in Orange County are passing ordi-
nances pertaining to this use and perhaps the health, safety, and wel-
fare of the surrounding residents are being impacted.
Moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar to direct staff to prepare an ordi-
nance that covers the protection of the residents in the area, plus
hospitals, schools and churches, and to deny USE PERMIT 81-31 and not
consider any Use Permits for businesses to install mOre than 5 machines
until an ordinance is adopted.
Mr. Hoesterey commented that he had noted the harassment of a 7-11
store clerk by patrons using the gaming machines in those stores.
Mr. Saltarelli stated that he felt it was the Council's obligation to
allow business to proceed with the same precaution as other recreation
uses such as tennis, etc. If the other gaming uses in Tustin are
decent productive businesses, why can't this one be the same?
Chairman Sharp stated that he feels the Council should develop some
rules and regulations for these businesses but not in a public session
like this one. We should address businessmen's constitutional rights
and meet both sides of the needs.
Mr. Saltarelli suggested several conditions to regulate this
applicant's proposal and explore possible alternatives.
MOTION,,CARRIED:
4-1 AYES: Sharp, Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy
NOES: Saltarelli
ABSENT: None
Mr. Rourke commented that the proposed ordinance would be presented
within one month.
2. VARIANCE 81-8
APPLICANT:
LOCATION:
REQUEST:
Cal State Associates CCLV "A"
14882-14942 Newport Avenue
To convert 296 apartment complex to condominiums
After the presentation of the staff report by Mr. Brotemarkle, the
public hearing was opened at 8:37 p.m.
Craig Kelford, 2203S S. Main Street, Carson architect for the project,
stated that they took the suggestions from the Council and residents of
the community and have revised the plan to include more open space
which eliminates the parking structure and reduces the density from 296
units to 234 units. Additionally, the new plan provides parking within
200 feet from any unit. Also two of the units will be converted into a
sauna and a recreation room.
Steve Price, 14918 Newport Avenue, tenant of the Californian Apart-
ments spoke in favor of this new plan for the condominiums and praised
everyone for their cooperation for a better project.
Henry Hudson, vice-president of Cal State Associates, spoke in favor of
the conversion and new plan presented and thanked the staff and
Council/Agency for their cooperation.
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January 18, 1982
Page 5
Jon Harrison, Sycamore Gardens Homeowners Association, spoke in favor
of the new plan and stated that they fully supported the new proposal.
The public hearing was closed at 8:48 p.m.
Mr. Brotemarkle informed the Agency that the resolution would be
modified to reflect: 1) the reduction from 296 to 234; 2) parking
structures changed to parking areas: and 3) II-D should be eliminated
(concerning the school district property).
Mr. Brotemarkle stated that the applicant has discussed a concern over
the fact that there can be no rent increases even though the utility
costs have risen since the project was started more than a year ago.
They have indicated that they will work with the tenants association
and then City staff to come up with a percentage to recover the utility
costs and submit to the Agency for their consideration.
Mr. Hoestery and Mr. Edgar agreed to the amendment of the resolution.
Mr. Edgar commented that he would like to see a letter, co-signed by
the developer and homeowners group, saying that everyone understands
the issues and the problems with the conversion. Mr. Edgar recommended
that the correspondence be submitted every month or two in order to
avoid misunderstandings with such a complex conversion. The Council
agreed.
MOTION CARIED: 5-0 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Sharp, Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli
None
None
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 p.m. to the next regular meeting.
James B. Sharp, {~airman
Recording Secretary