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Minutes of Regular Meeting
October 4, 1982
The Planning Agency held a regular meeting Monday, October 4, 1982, at
3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the City Hall, 300 Centennial Way,
Tustin, California.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Edgar at 3:04 p.m.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mr. Greinke and the invocation was
given by Mr. Hoesterey.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Edgar, Greinke, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli
Absent: None
Also present:
William Huston, City Manager
Michael Brotemarkle, Community Development Director
Robert Ledendecker, Director of Public Works
James Rourke, City Attorney
Janet Hester, Recording Secretary
MINUTES
The minutes of the regular meeting held September 20, 1982, were
approved as submitted.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. VARIANCE 82-10
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Phillip B.Schindler
15601 Newport Avenue
Authorization to vary with Zoning Code provisions to
develop a lot of substandard width and to construct a
driveway apron not in conformance with City standards.
After presentation of the staff report, Mrs. Kennedy moved to delay
consideration of the item until Mr. Whitney Sharpe, owner of the
neighboring property, was present. Mr. Hoesterey seconded. Motion
carried unanimously.
PUBLIC CONCERNS:
Realizing many in the audience were present to speak for the Public
Concerns portion of the agenda, Chairman Edgar' moved ahead to that item.
Betty Wagner, Housing Referral Representative, E1 Toro Marine Base,
stated she had received many complaints from military personnel who were
residents of the Windsor Gardens apartments. The complaints were a
direct result of the condominium conversion process and included;
serious lack of parking because of demolition of carports, no notice of
conversion, patio doors boarded up, pool closed, water being turned off
without notice, threats of eviction from manager, and chain link
fencing.
Lt. Anderson, Windsor Gardens resident, stated he felt the fencing
created a fire hazard and fire trucks would not have access to the rear
apartments.
Dave Hudson, Windsor Gardens resident, stated he felt the residents had
been lied to about the construction schedule. He had been told the
carports would not be torn down until the new parking structure was
complete. Fencing and barricades presented a fire hazard and parking
was a serious problem.
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October 4, 1982
Page 2
Chairman Edgar asked Mr. Brotemarkle if Cai-State Associates, the
developer of the project, was complying with conditions of the permit to
convert.
Mr. Brotemarkle stated that Cai-State had not anticipated such a high
(almost 100%) occupancy rate during the conversion process and had hoped
more people would take advantage of the relocation benefits before
construction began. The Fire and Building Departments had inspected the
complex and determined the patio doors were convenience accesses, and
the fencing was required by Cal OSHA to keep people away from the hole
being dug for the new parking structure. The fencing is secured with
special locks that the emergency services can break to gain access.
Cai-State was required to loop the water system in order to provide
continuous availability during construction. Cai-State would not evict
any tenant for complaining, most of the comments regarding eviction
threats seemed to revolve around the manager of the complex. Cai-State
was complying with the conditions set forth and though problems had been
expected, not to the degree experienced because of the high occupancy
rate.
Chairman Edgar asked if staff had any suggestions.
Mr. Brotemarkle replied staff had looked into the possibility of leasing
parking space and also te~orarily eliminating red curbing along
Mitchell. The Public Works Department felt City liability would be too
great if the red curbing was temporarily waived.
Mrs. Kennedy asked why people haven't moved.
Betty Wagner stated that many of the tenants were not eligible for
relocation benefits and could not afford to move.
Debra Toman, Windsor Garden resident, stated that when she rented the
apartment, she was not told about the conversion. She could not afford
to move.
Richard Weiss, Windsor Gardens resident, stated he had been told the
conversion would not start for at least a year. He had signed a waiver
of relocation benefits, but it did not give a specific date for the
construction to start. He stated there were four dumpsters for 70
people, parking was a serious problem, emergency vehicles did not have
access to the rear apartments, a rain would cause buildings to slide
into the hole being dug for the parking structure, and the children had
no place to play as the playground had been torn up. He also could not
afford to move.
Carmen Lesack, Windsor Gardens resident, stated a neighbor had found a
dead rat.
Mrs. Kennedy suggested perhaps a committee made up of the City Manager,
a representative of Cai-State, and representatives of the tenants, could
be formed to work out solutions.
Chairman Edgar asked Mr. Ledendecker if the red curbing could be
temporarily waived. Mr. Ledendecker replied, it was staff's
recommendation not to remove the red curbing as the liability to the
City would be too great.
Chairman' Edgar asked Mr. Brotemarkle if the conversion was to be phased
so as to eliminate problems such as parking. Mr. Brotemarkle stated it
was not one of the conditions of approval.
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October 4, 1982
Page 3
Mr. Saltarelli stated he believed some concrete directions could be
established to at least temporarily solve problems. He discussed five
areas needing attention:
1. Trash: Either more dumpsters should be provided or pick up
frequency increased;
2. Parking: See if more parking can be made available on Mitchell
temporarily, with signage and patrol, or obtain temporary parking
on other property (e.g., Stater Bros.)
3. Cai-State, he felt, should refund deposits to those wishing to
leave immediately so they had money to go;
4. Check on a case by case basis to see what parties are entitled to
relocation benefits; and
5. Ask the contractor or City to have someone on a permanent basis
to look out for the general safety and everything el se while
construction goes on.
It was determined Item 5 should be at the developer's expense.
Mr. Greinke asked if that was a motion. Mr. Saltarelli so moved,
seconded by Mr. Greinke.
Chairman Edgar requested Ms. Wagner work with staff as part of the
motion in trying to solve problems and that staff report at the next
regular meeting on the progress made.
Mr. Hoesterey stated that Cai-State should have a better line of
communication with the apartment manager to ensure she is following
their direction.
Motion carried: 5-0 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
EDGAR, GREINKE, HOESTEREY, KENNEDY
SALTARELLI
None
None
Chairman Edgar adjourned the meeting to the City Council at 3:50 p.m.
and re-convened to the Planning Agency at 3:55 p.m.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. VARIANCE 82-10
Chairman Edgar opened the Public Hearing at 3:55 p.m.
Phillip Schindler, applicant, stated there were driveways in the City
smaller than what he was proposing, that his development would not add
significantly to the traffic in the area, and when he purchased the
property it was his understanding the property was, and would remain,
under the jurisdication of the County. He asked why the City connected
the parcel to the sewer if it was considered unbuildable.
Whitney Sharp, owner of the neighboring business, asked how the City
could Consider the property buildable now when it was not considered
such before.
The Public Hearing was closed at 4:02 p.m.
Mr. Greinke moved denial, Mrs. Kennedy seconded, of Variance 82-10.
Mr. Hoesterey stated he felt it was a good proposal for development of
that site. The architectural theme was in keeping with what the City
wanted and the structure would serve as a landmark for Tustin.
Mrs. Kennedy felt the hardship resulting from the size and location of
the property was self-imposed and would create a traffic hazard.
Mr. Saltarelli suggested perhaps the City could offer to buy the land at
appraised value.
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October 4, 1982
Page 4
Chairman Edgar stated that the driveways which were smaller than City
standard had been grandfathered in.
Motion carried: 3-2 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
EDGAR, GREINKE, KENNEDY
HOESTEREY, SALTARELLI
None
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. USE PERMIT 82-27
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
A.F. MacDonald
14982 Prospect (northeast corner of Prospect & First
Street)
Authorization for a pole sign of twenty-five (25) square
feet and for the use of the property as a minor tune up
center with the sale of propane gasoline
After presentation of the staff report, Mr. Brotemarkle stated the staff
recommendation was to continue the item to the next meeting to give
staff and the applicant time to work out design considerations.
The Public Hearing was opened at 4:15 p.m.
Mr. A. MacDonald, applicant, stated he was willing to abide by most of
staff's recommendations. He had purchased the business and obtained a
business license before he realized a use permit was necessary to
operate. He felt it would not be feasible for him to move the bay doors
to the back of the building, as staff had suggested, because of cost.
He stated he wanted to withdraw the request to sell propane. He
intended to get the tune up portion of the business running smoothly
before taking on additional responsibilities.
Mrs. Kennedy asked if his operation would be noisy. Mr. MacDonald
replied it would not.
Mr. Greinke spoke to encourage the sale of propane as he felt there was
a need for it in the community.
The Public Hearing was closed at 4:24 p.m.
Mr. Saltarelli moved, Mr. Greinke seconded, approval of Use Permit 82-27
with the conditions that the sale of propane would be allowed subject to
review, that conditions 2, 4 and 5 of the staff report be incorporated
into the resolution of approval, and that staff review the final plans
and bring them before the Agency if necessary.
Motion carried: 5-0 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
EDGAR, GREINKE, HOESTEREY, KENNEDY
SALTARELLI
None
None
2. USE PERMIT 82-28
Applicant:-
Location:
Request:
Frank Ohlgren on behalf of Larwin Square Limited
618 E. First Street
Authorization to install thirty {30) video game machines
as an arcade
Mr. Brotemarkle presented the staff report stating the City had received
no complaints about the. recently approved Ski Fever arcade. No
complaints had been received from the tenants of Larwin Square and the
owner of the center was willing to allow the arcade.
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October 4, 1982
Page 5
Chairman Edgar opened the Public Hearing at 4:30 p.m.
Mrs. Kennedy moved approval, Chairman Edgar seconded, of Use Permit
82-28 by the adoption of Resolution No. 2064. Mr. Saltarelli suggested
the motion be amended to include a review in one year. Mrs. Kennedy and
Chairman Edgar agreed to the amended motion.
Motion carried: 5-0 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
3. VARIANCE 82-11
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
EDGAR, GREINKE, HOESTEREY, KENNEDY
SALTARELLI
None
None
James Lewis on behalf of Lewis Property
14772 Plaza Drive
Authorization to allow architectural projections into
the front and sideyard setback areas for a proposed
office building
After presentation of the staff report, Chairman Edgar opened the Public
Hearing at 4:42 p.m.
A representative of Lewis Properties, Inc., presented himself to the
Agency for any questions they may have. Chairman Edgar closed the
Public Hearing at 4:43 p.m.
Mrs. Kennedy moved approval, Mr. Greinke seconded, of Variance 82-11 by
the adoption of Resolution No. 2063.
Motion carried: 5-0 AYES: EDGAR, GREINKE, HOESTEREY, KENNEDY
SALTARELLI
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
PUBLIC CONCERNS:
None other than heard previously.
OLD BUSINESS:
1. Resolution of Approval for Use Permit 82-22 (Heritage House)
Mr. Saltarelli moved adoption, Mr. Greinke seconded, of Resolution No.
2062.
Motion carried: 3-2 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
EDGAR, GREINKE, SALTARELLI
HOESTEREY, KENNEDY
None
Mr. Brotemarkle informed the Agency that an appeal of the approval had
been filed by the owner of the property to the south.
NEW BUSINESS:
None.
STAFF CONCERNS:
None.
AGENCY CONCERNS:
Mr. Saltarelli expressed concern over recently signed legislation
authorizing the development of the "bullet train" from Los Angeles to
San Diego which would give the State the authority to condemn private
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October 4, 1982
Page 6
and public property without a public hearing. This would affect Tustin
as the proposed route would follow Interstate 5 which goes through the
City. Mr. Saltarelli asked that staff and the City Attorney follow up
to find out what is going on.
Mr. Huston said staff knew nothing other than what was in the newspaper
but understood that a movement was in progress to have the legislation
reviewed. He felt the City should write a letter.
Mr. Saltarelli also asked staff to look into the possibility of taxing
video machines.
Mr. Hoesterey asked why Mr. MacDonald would have been issued a license
to operate before having approval for the use permit. Mr. Huston stated
that was why the business license division had been moved to the
Community Development Department. There would be better assurance of
businesses meeting zoning and other codes.
ADJOURNMENT: At 4:46 p.m. to the next regular meeting.
Richard B. Edgar, Chairman
'Janet Hester
Recording Secretary
NI~r~S OF A R~c~AR ~rING
OF '~u~ REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF
TtU~ CITY 0~ T~STIN, CanTFORNIA
O=tober 4, 1982
1. C~T.T- 'LO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Edgar at 4:46 p.m. in the City
Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way, Tustin, California.
2. RD~.T- C~T.T.
Agency Members Present:
Agency Members Absent:
Others Present:
.3 · APPROVAL
Edgar, Greinke, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli
None
James G. Rourke, City Attorney
william A. Huston, Exec. Director/City Manager
Mary E. Wynn, Recording Secretary/City Clerk
Mike Brotemarkle, Community Development Director
Ronald Nault, Finance Director
Roy Gonzales, Personnel Director
Bob Ledendecker, Director of Public Works
R. Kenneth Fleagle, Consultant
Dale Wick, Assistant City Engineer
Eva Solis, Deputy City Clerk
Approximately 20 in the audience
It was moved by Hoesterey, seconded by Kennedy, to approve the minutes of
the September 20, 1982, meeting. Chairman Edgar requested a correction to
insert the following on page 3, under Item C, third line: "to include a
plaque presentation to the TNT Committee." The motion carried 5-0 to
approve the minutes as corrected.
EL C2%MINO R~AL/M~kIN STREET IMPelS - PROPOSED DESIGN CHANGE FR~M
A~F~C)vJ~u PI~N8 DUE TO FOUR LARGE TR~8
The Director of Public Works presented the staff report and recommenda-
tion, and clarified the written report dated September 21, 1982, prepared
by the Assistant City Engineer. Mr. Saltarelli suggested moving the curbs
out on the east side of the street to accommodate the trees, and moving
the curbs in on the west side to maintain the street width, whereby the
street would have a slight curve but loss of parking spaces would be
eliminated. The Director of Public Works indicated this would be feasible
geometrically and traffic-safety wise, but staff would need to survey any
impact on trees on the easterly side of the street.
It was then moved by Hoesterey, seconded by Kennedy, to approve Alternate
"B" - Authorize realignment of the new curb around four camphor trees to
24' from centerline and deletion of six parking spaces per Exhibit "A".
Chairman Pro Tem Kennedy expressed her appreciation for the alternatives
provided by staff on the matter. Following Agency/staff discussion, a
substitute motion was made by Edgar, seconded by Greinke, to investigate
the feasibility of Mr. Saltarelli's suggestion to realign the street with
no loss of trees; and if not feasible, to proceed with Alternate "B". The
Director suggested that if it's feasible to realign the street, that staff
contact the affected people on the easterly side, and allow them the
opportunity to review a plan and provide input before proceeding.
The motion carried 5-0.
Una Boosey, owner of property at 460 E1 Camino Real, received clarifica-
tion on the Agency's action.
5. STA._'_'T~S ~EPO~ - ~., ~ ~.AL/HAI'N STEEET IMP~vuz4SNTS
The Director of Public Works indicated that since preparation of the
report dated September 21, 1982, staff has reviewed the project to deter-
mine how to bring it closer to the December 4 completion date as origi-
nally planned. He stated staff has considered allowing the contractor to
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accelerate Phase III (westerly half of E1 Camino Real between Newport and
Main), and noted that normally the contractor would not be allowed to com-
mence Phase III until the northerly portion of Phase II has been totally
completed. However, staff feels that by doing so, 2-1/2 to 3 weeks could
be gained on the overall contract completion date. It was then moved by
Edgar, seconded by Saltarelli, that Phase III be accelerated, but to
communicate with all businesses to ensure it is acceptable to them.
Agency/staff discussion followed. The motion carried 5-0.
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6. OTW~R ~SINESS
Chairman Pro Tem Kennedy reported that she had received inquiries about
removal of the Jacobson Memorial Monument Sign on E1 Camino Real and E1
Camino Way and stated that it is going to be replaced as indicated to her
by the Director of Public Works.
It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Greinke, to adjourn at 5:06 p.m. to
the next adjourned regular meeting on Wednesday, October 20, 1982. Car-
ried 5-0.