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Minutes of Regular Meeting
October 4, 1982
The Planning Agency held a regular meeting Monday, October 4, 1982, at
3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the City Hall, 300 Centennial Way,
Tustin, California.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Edgar at 3:04 p.m.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mr. Greinke and the invocation was
given by Mr. Hoesterey.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also present:
Edgar, Greinke, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli
None
William Huston, City Manager
Michael Brotemarkle, Community Development Director
Robert Ledendecker, Director of Public Works
James Rourke, City Attorney
Janet Hester, Recording Secretary
MINUTES
The minutes of the regular meeting held September 20, 1982, were
approved as submitted.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. VARIANCE 82-10
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Philltp B.Schindler
15601 Newport Avenue
Authorization to va~ with Zoning Code provisions to
develop a lot of substandard width and to construct a
driveway apron not in conformance with City standards.
After presentation of the staff report, Mrs. Kennedy moved to delay
consideration of the item until Mr. Whitney Sharpe, owner of the
neighboring property, was present. Mr. Hoesterey seconded. Motion
carried unanimously.
PUBLIC CONCERNS:
Realizing many in the audience were present to speak for the Public
Concerns portion of the agenda, Chairman Edgar moved ahead to that item.
Betty Wagner, Housing Referral Representative, E1 Toro Marine Base,
stated she had received many complaints from military personnel who were
residents of the Windsor Gardens apartments. The complaints were a
direct result of the condominium conversion process and included;
serious lack of parking because of demolition of carports, no notice of
conversion, patio doors boarded up, pool closed, water being turned off
without notice, threats of eviction from manager, and chain link
fencing.
Lt. Anderson, Windsor Gardens resident, stated he felt the fencing
created a fire hazard and fire trucks would not have access to the rear
apartments.
Dave Hudson, Windsor Gardens resident, stated he felt the residents had
been lied to about the construction schedule. He had been told the
carports would not be torn down until the new parking structure was
complete. Fencing and barricades presented a fire hazard and parking
was a serious problem.
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October 4, 1982
Page 2
Chairman Edgar asked Mr. Brotemarkle if Cai-State Associates, the
developer of the project, was complying with conditions of the permit to
convert.
Mr. Brotemarkle stated that Cai-State had not anticipated such a high
(almost 100%) occupancy rate during the conversion process and had hoped
more people would take advantage of the relocation benefits before
construction began. The Fire and Building Departments had inspected the
complex and determined the patio doors were convenience accesses, and
the fencing was required by Cal OSHA to keep people away from the hole
being dug for the new parking structure. The fencing is secured with
special locks that the emergency services can break to gain access.
Cai-State was required to loop the water system in order to provide
continuous availability during construction. Cai-State would not evict
any tenant for con~laining, most of the co~ments regarding eviction
threats seemed to revolve around the manager of the complex. Cai-State
was complying with the conditions set forth and though problems had been
expected, not to the degree experienced because of the high occupancy
rate.
Chairman Edgar asked if staff had any suggestions.
Mr. Brotemarkle replied staff had looked into the possibility of leasing
parking space and also temporarily eliminating red curbing along
Mitchell. The Public Works Department felt City liability would be too
great if the red curbing was temporarily waived.
Mrs. Kennedy asked why people haven't moved.
Betty Wagner stated that many of the tenants were not eligible for
relocation benefits and could not afford to move.
Debra Toman, Windsor Garden resident, stated that when she rented the
apartment, she was not told about the conversion. She could not afford
to move.
Richard Weiss, Windsor Gardens resident, stated he had been told the
conversion would not start for at least a year. He had signed a waiver
of relocation benefits, but it did not give a specific date for the
construction to start. He stated there were four dompsters for 70
people, parking was a serious problem, emergency vehicles did not have
access to the rear apartments, a rain would cause buildings to slide
into the hole being dug for the parking structure, and the children had
no place to play as the playground had been torn up. He also could not
afford to move.
Carmen Lesack, Windsor Gardens resident, stated a neighbor had found a
dead rat.
Mrs. Kennedy suggested perhaps a committee made up of the City Manager,
a representative of Cai-State, and representatives of the tenants, could
be formed to work out solutions.
Chairman Edgar asked Mr. Ledendecker if the red curbing could be
te~orarily waived. Mr. Ledendecker replied, it was staff's
recommendation not to remove the red curbing as the liability to the
City would be too.great.
Chairman Edgar asked Mr. Brotemarkle if the conversion was to be phased
so as to eliminate problems such as parking. Mr. Brotemarkle stated it
was not one of the conditions of approval.
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October 4, 1982
Page 3
Mr. Saltarelli stated he believed some concrete directions could be
established to at least temporarily solve problems. He discussed five
areas needing attention:
1. Trash: Either more dumpsters should be provided or pick up
frequency increased;
2. Parking: See if more parking can be made available on Mitchell
temporarily, with signage and patrol, or obtain temporary parking
on other property (e.g., Stater Bros.)
3. Cai-State, he felt, should refund deposits to those wishing to
leave inmmdiately so they had money to go;
4. Check on a case by case basis to see what parties are entitled to
relocation benefits; and
5. Ask the contractor or City to have someone on a permanent basis
to look out for the general safety and everything else while
construction goes on.
It was determined Item 5 should be at the developer's expense.
Mr. Greinke asked if that was a motion. Mr. Saltarelli so moved,
seconded by Mr. Greinke.
Chairman Edgar requested Ms. Wagnerwork with staff as part of the
motion in trying to solve problems and that staff report at the next
regular meeting on the progress made.
Mr. Hoesterey stated that Cai-State should have a better line of
communication with the apartment manager to ensure she is following
their direction.
Motion carried: 5-0 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
EDGAR, GREINKE, HOESTEREY, KENNEDY
SALTARELLI
None
None
Chairman Edgar adjourned the meeting to the City Council at 3:50 p.m.
and re-convened to the Planning Agency at 3:55 p.m.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. VARIANCE 82-10
Chairman Edgar opened the Public Hearing at 3:55 p.m.
Phillip Schindler, applicant, stated there were driveways in the City
smaller than what he was proposing, that his development would not add
significantly to the traffic in the area, and when he purchased the
property it was his understanding the property was, and would remain,
under the jurisdtcation of the County. He asked why the City connected
the parcel to the sewer if it was considered unbuildable.
Whitney Sharp, owner of the neighboring business, asked how the City
could consider the property buildable now when it was not considered
such before.
The Public Hearing was closed at 4:02 p.m.
Mr. Gretnke moved denial, Mrs. Kennedy seconded, of Variance 82-10.
Mr. Hoesterey stated he felt it was a good proposal for development of
that site. The architectural theme was in keeping with what the City
wanted and the structure would serve as a landmark for Tustin.
Mrs. Kennedy felt the hardship resulting from the size and location of
the property was self-imposed and would create a traffic hazard.
Mr. Saltarelii suggested perhaps the City could offer to buy the land at
appraised value.
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October 4, 1982
Page 4
Chairman Edgar stated that the driveways which were smaller than City
standard had been grandfathered in.
Motion carried: 3-2 AYES: EDGAR, GREINKE, KENNEDY
NOES: HOESTEREY, SALTARELLI
ABSENT: None
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. USE PERMIT 82-27
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
A.F. MacDonald
14982 Prospect (northeast corner of Prospect & First
Street)
Authorization for a pole sign of twenty-five (25) square
feet and for the use of the property as a minor tune up
center with the sale of propane gasoline
After presentation of the staff report, Mr. Brotemarkle stated the staff
recommendation was to continue the item to the next meeting to give
staff and the applicant time to work out design considerations.
The Public Hearing was opened at 4:15 p.m.
Mr. A. MacDonald, applicant, stated he was willing to abide by most of
staff's recommendations. He had purchased the business and obtained a
business license before he realized a use permit was necessary to
operate. He felt it would not be feasible for him to move the bay doors
to the back of the building, as staff had suggested, because of cost.
He stated he wanted to withdraw the request to sell propane. He
intended to get the tune up portion of the business running smoothly
before taking on additional responsibilities.
Mrs. Kennedy asked if his operation would be noisy. Mr. MacDonald
replied it would not.
Mr. Greinke spoke to encourage the sale of propane as he felt there was
a need for it in the community.
The Public Hearing was closed at 4:24 p.m.
Mr. Saltarelli moved, Mr. Gretnke seconded, approval of Use Permit 82-27
with the conditions that the sale of propane woutd be allowed subject to
review, that conditions 2, 4 and 5 of the staff report be incorporated
into the resolution of approval, and that staff review the final plans
and bring them before the Agency if necessary.
Motion carried: 5-0 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
EDGAR, GREINKE, HOESTEREY, KENNEDY
SALTARELLI
None
None
2. USE PERMIT 82-28
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Frank Ohlgren on behalf of Larwin Square Limited
618 E. First Street
Authorization to install thirty (30) video game machines
as an arcade
Mr. Brotemarkle presented the staff report stating the City had received
no complaints about the recently approved Ski Fever arcade. No
complaints had been received from the tenants of Larwin Square and the
owner of the center was willing to allow the arcade.
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October 4, 1982
Page 5
Chairman Edgar opened the Public Hearing at 4:30 p.m.
Mrs. Kennedy moved approval, Chairman Edgar seconded, of Use Permit
82-28 by the adoption of Resolution No. 2064. Mr. Saltarelli suggested
the motion be amended to include a review in one year. Mrs. Kennedy and
Chairman Edgar agreed to the amended motion.
Motion carried: 5-0 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
3. VARIANCE 82-1!
EDGAR, GREINKE, HOESTEREY, KENNEDY
SALTARELLI
None
None
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
James Lewis on behalf of Lewis Property
14772 Plaza Drive
Authorization to allow architectural projections into
the front and sideyard setback areas for a proposed
office building
After presentation of the staff report, Chairman Edgar opened the Public
Hearing at 4:42 p.m.
A representative of Lewis Properties, Inc., presented himself to the
Agency for any questions they may have. Chairman Edgar closed the
Public Hearing at 4:43 p.m.
Mrs. Kennedy moved approval, Mr. Greinke secOnded, of Variance 82-11 by
the adoption of Resolution No. 2063.
Motion carried: 5-0 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
EDGAR, GREINKE, HOESTEREY, KENNEDY
SALTARELLI
None
None
PUBLIC CONCERNS:
None other than heard previously.
OLD BUSINESS:
1. Resolution of Approval for Use Permit 82-22'(Heritage House)
Mr. Saltarelli moved adoption, Mr. Greinke seconded, of Resolution No.
2062.
Motion carried: 3-2 AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
EDGAR, GREINKE, SALTARELLI
HOESTEREY, KENNEDY
None
Mr. Brotemarkle informed the Agency that an appeal of the approval had
been filed by the owner of the property to the south.
NEW BUSINESS:
None,
STAFF CONCERNS:
None,
AGENCY CONCERNS:
Mr. Saltarelli expressed concern over recently signed legislation
authorizing the development of the "bullet train" from Los Angeles to
San Diego which would give the State the authority to condemn private
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October 4, 1982
Page 6
and public property without a public hearing. This would affect Tustin
as the proposed route would follow Interstate 5 which goes through the
City. Mr. Saltarelli asked that staff and the City Attorney follow up
to find out what is going on.
Mr. Huston said staff knew nothing other than what was in the newspaper
but understood that a movement was in progress to have the legislation
reviewed. He felt the City should write a letter.
Mr. Saltarelli also asked staff to look into the possibi.lity of taxing
video machines.
Mr. Hoesterey asked why Mr. MacDonald would have been issued a license
to operate before having approval for the use permit. Mr. Huston stated
that was why the business license division had been moved to the
Community Development Department. There would be better assurance of
businesses meeting zoning and other codes.
ADJOURNMENT: At 4:46 p.m. to the next regular meeting.
Richard B. Edgar, Chairman
Janet Hester
Recording Secretary