HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES 11-16-81TUSTIN PLANNING AGENCY
Minutes of Regular Meeting
November 16, 1981
The Planning Agency held a regular meeting Monday, November 16, 1981,
at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the City Hall, 300 Centennial
Way, Tustin, California.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Pro Tempore Ronald B.
Hoesterey at 3:00 p.m.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mr. Edgar and the invocation was
given by Mr. Hoesterey.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also present:
MINUTES
Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy
Sharp and Saltarelli
Michael Brotemarkle, Community Development Director
William Huston, City Manager
Alan Burns, Deputy City Attorney
Maria Ivory, Recording Secretary
The minutes of the regular meeting held November 2, 1981, were ap-
proved as submitted.
PUBLIC HEARINGS: None
NEW BUSINESS
1. Preliminary Plan, South/Central Redevelopment Project
Mr. Huston presented the staff report and said staff recommends the
Agency adopt Resolution No. 2007 which would refer the Preliminary
Plan to the Redevelopment Agency. At an October 1981 workshop the
Agency did recommend establishment of a preliminary plan and project
area. The two project areas have been combined into one redevelopment
project to save cost and also because of the nature of the areas. If
Resolution No. 2007 is approved the Redevelopment Agency would then
conduct a public hearing on the City's second project area.
Mr. Edgar suggested the South Area "A" Project Boundaries be amended
to read: "...then south and easterly to Se easterly beunda~ of Red
Hill Avenue ..... " This change would enable Redevelopment to complete-
ly cover the possibility of grade crossing.
RESOLUTION NO. 2007. " .......... A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING AGENCY
OF THE CITY OF TUSTIN RECOMMENDING TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THE
ADOPTION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR THE SOUTH/CENTRAL REDEVELOPMENT
PROJECT ......... "Moved by Edgar to adopt Resolution No. 2007 as
amended. The motion was seconded by Hoesterey and carried by the fol-
lowing vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
NOTE:
Kennedy, Edgar and Hoesterey
None
Sharp and Saltarelli
Mr. Saltarelli entered the Council Chambers at 3:07 p.m. and
was counted present.
OLD BUSINESS: None
PUBLIC CONCERNS: None
STAFF CONCERNS: None
Planning Agency Minutes
November 16, 1981
Page 2
AGENCY CONCERNS:
Mr. Saltarelli asked whether the project now under construction on
Newport Avenue meets parking requirements. Mr. Brotemarkle replied
that it does meet parking requirements and both zoning and height re-
qu~irements for the district. The parking is located behind the build-
ing under construction.
ADJOURNMENT
At 3:08 p.m. upon motion of Hoesterey the Agency adjourned to the 7:30
p.m. meeting. The motion was seconded by Edgar and carried unanimous-
ly.
TUSTIN PLANNING AGENCY
Minutes of 7:30 Meeting
November 16, 1981
The Planning Agency was called to order at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy
Absent:
Sharp and Saltarelli
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. USE PERMIT 81-31
Applicant:
Location:
Request:
Mangano, Decosta, and Mesenbrink.
14722 Newport Avenue
To permit a family entertainment center including
electronic games, large screen T.V. viewing, and a
fast food restaurant.
Mr. Brotemarkle presented the staff report and said the facility was
situated at the northeast corner of Sycamore and Newport. The appli-
cant proposes to operate a 6,000 sq. foot space divided evenly for
family entertainment and food operation with beer. The only subject
of the use permit is the 45 electronic games included in the enter-
tainment area which by code constitutes an arcade. The other uses
proposed are permitted by code. Staff's analysis included input from
the police department concerning congregations of juveniles due to
three schools within this vicinity and once congregated the students
could become a nuisance due to loitering, noise, mischief, etc. The
primary difference in this activity and others approved such as the
Tustin Lanes Bowling, Sgt. Pepperoni Pizza Parlor and Taylor's Restau-
rant is the electronic games were in much less proportion. Staff's
recommendation is denial by adoption of Resolution No. 2006. The key
issue is the location of this operation near the schools and hospi-
tal. On Friday, November 13, 1981 the department received two letters
of protest: one from Stewart Development Company and basically it
states upon being notified they disagree with the use at this location
because there has been a high number of juveniles in this area congre-
gating; in addition a letter from the manager of OcitaHouse, a non-
profit organization, states they concur with Stewart Development and
point out they have had the same problem with large congregations of
juveniles in the area and the entertainment center would bring in fur-
ther potential for problems.
The public hearing portion on Use Permit 81-31 was opened.
Planning Agency Minutes
November 16, 1981
Page 3
Mr. Paul J. Raynor, 15662 Myrtle Avenue, Tustin, Executive Director of
Ocita House, stated he has been a resident of Tustin for 19 years and
lived approximately three blocks from the proposed entertainment cen-
ter. He said there has been thievery from teenagers in this area and
felt the center would be a detriment to the community.
Mt.John Harrison, President of Sycamore Gardens Home Owners Associa-
tion stated he was speaking on behalf of the Association in opposition
to the proposed use of the site for basically the same reasons as pre-
sented in staff's report; i.e., vandalism, loitering, noise and drink-
ing. This would potentially aggrevate those problems. He said there
was also a hazard to children crossing the street to use the facili-
ties and he wondered what the hours of operation would be.
Mr. John Zier stated he lived a couple of blocks from the project and
he was opposed to it being so close to his home.
Mr. Mesenbrink of the firm MDM, said his feelings were that staff's
report misrepresents what they are proposing. Mr. Mesenbrink present-
ed several visual aides. The proposed name of the establishment would
be Parcheesy's. The theme will be entertainment for the entire family
as well as a tiny tot area. The management plans to sponsor baseball
teams, an after game meeting place and birthday parties. The site
they have selected offers the best location for a useof this magnitude
because the building is so well buffered with a wall 6 feet hight a-
round the property and there is also a wall around the 7-11 store.
The main emphasis is on the restaurant and not on gaming activities.
It was not true that 50% of the area was devoted to games. One of the
areas has a large screen T.V. and they are working with people trained
in childhood education and the younger children will play with objects
which are safe and non-toxic. The restaurant represents 60% of the
total space and the gaming represents only 10%. The hours of opera-
tion would be from 11:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.
Mr. Hoesterey asked how the restaurant would be laid out to help miti-
gate concerns of an arcade.
Mr. Mesenbrink responded the restaurant would be in good taste. He
said they were in the process of laying out the restaurant and the
plans from the architect will be revised and their hope is to create
an environment kids could relate to.
Mr. Mangano of the firm MDM, said he lived in Santa Aha. He stated he
originally built the building as a commercial site and they are peti-
tioning because they find there is a need for such a use in the
area. Mr. Mangano detailed the amount of money to be invested and
said that because of the high investment, the reputation that they es-
tablish was very important to them. He agreed that the problem of
vandalism does exist but the building itself is separate with no imme-
diate tenancy that would create a problem and they did intend to close
at a reasonable hour. As far as loitering problems that was going to
be his and not the neighborhood's. He said he intends to enforce pro-
per controls and if it does become a problem he would engage a securi-
ty guard and whatever was necessary to keep neighborhood tranquility.
They would like to put into the community and not take away from it
and develop a tax base which would realize revenues for the City of
Tustin.
Mr. Hoesterey commented that he had been to Chuckie's Cheese Pizza and
asked if the proposed operation would be similar to that.
Mr. Mangano replied "No" because they cater to children and his opera-
tion would be much smaller and they have no animated objects which re-
duces the noise level considerably.
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November 16, 1981
Page 4
Mr. Decosta of the firm MDM, stated he has lived in Tustin Meadows for
10 years and if he didn't feel this was an A-1 operation he would not
let it get near Tustin Meadows. He said when he first read staff's
report he wasn't sure it was their project.
Mr. John Harrison said he would like to bring out two points: 1) the
wall bordering the property was on the north side and the east side
and to the south and west which are street fringes there are no walls
and there is the residential use in the area and 2) while the idea of
a family operation sounds great the Agency should keep in mind that
many of the users will not be going as family but individuals who
don't have parental supervision.
.A resident of Tustin stated his building was directly across the
street on Sycamore and there was no protection. If the operation was
to be as large as planned what kind of parking problems were they go-
ing to have because he sees parking spilling over into his parking lot
Mr. Mangano speaking in rebuttal said he feels the reactions were on
the extreme side because the building was insulated. They realize
they will have to police the operation very closely because they are
aware their use permit is conditional and subject to termination. The
parking was all done according to code and the streets that the gen-
tlemen was talking about are wide streets.
There being no further testimony the public hearing was declared
closed.
Mr. Brotemarkle commented that the issue was not with the restaurant,
beer,a large T.V. screen or Monday night football; the Code concerns
the number of electronic games to be set up. Over five machines pla-
ces that portion of the use in an arcade category and problems with
such uses have been cropping up throughout the County. The issue is
whether this is an appropriate location for an arcade. If the Plan-
ning Agency determines this area is appropriate it would then be re-
feted to the License and Permit Board (L&P) for a report to be made
back to Agency as to conditions oif operation.
Mrs. Kennedy said she felt the information presented by the applicants
gives her a different picture of the operation than described by
staff's report and it may have been lack of information which led
staff to believe this was a poor site. She said the Home Owners Asso-
ciation and the businesses across the street from the proposed opera-
tion may have received the report from staff 'and she would like to see
the matter continued and during that time the applicant could get in
touch with people who spoke in opposition and help them understand the
project in a more favorable light. She requested that the City staff,
Police Department and Building Department gather any new information
on what happens at these gaming centers. She said her son often goes
to these places and because of the machines he has become interested
in computers and she felt they were very modern and up-todate much
like miniature golf was to her.
Motion by Kennedy to continue the matter to a regular meeting of the
PLanning Agency on Monday, December 21, 1981 at 3:00 p.m. in the Coun-
cil Chambers. The motion was seconded by Edgar.
Under discussion Mr. Edgar said he had a clear apprehension by staff
for the large amount of game machines and the proposed operation has
as many machines as the three other businesses combined and 45 ma-
chines in one place was an awful lot compared to anything else they
have in the community. Mr. Edgar requested the Police Department to
furnish the Agency with some kind of perspective on how severe vandal-
ism has been with teenagers in this area and the Building Department
to look at the parking on this site.
"lanning Agency Minutes
November 16, 1981
Page 5
The question was called for and the motion carried by the following
vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Kennedy, Edgar, Hoesterey
None
Sharp and Saltarelli
ADJOURNMENT
At 8:17 p.m. upon motion of Edgar the Agency adjourned to December 7,
1981 at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers. The motion was seconded by
Kennedy and carried unanimously.
Recording Secretary
Chairman, James B.
MI~nS OF A ~ ~-~NG
OF ~R ~uSv~uOPM~T ~CY OF
TH~ CITY OF TUSTIN, C~r.TFOR~IA
Nov-mher 16, 1981
1. C~T.T. 'fO O~DE~
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Pro Tem Hoesterey at 3:09
p.m. in the City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way, Tustin, California.
Agency Men, ers Present:
Agency Members Absents
Others Present:
Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli
Sharp
Alan R. Watts, Deputy City Attorney
William A. Huston, City Manager
Mary E. Wynn, City Clerk
Mike Brotemarkle, Co~n. Dev. Director
Ken Fleagle, Planning Consultant
Bob Ledendecker, Director of Public Works
Ron Nault, Finance Director
Royleen White, Con~nunity Services Director
Eva Solis, Deputy City Clerk
Approximately 8 in the audience
3. APPI~O~AL OF MX~=r~
It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, to approve the minutes of the
November 2, 198~, meeting. Motion carried 4-0, Sharp absent.
4. ~C~ ~O~Cma~S
None.
It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edqar, to adjourn at 3:10 p.m. to the
next regular meeting o~ December 7, 1981. Carried 4-0, Sharp absent.
MI~=r~S OF A ~GUbAR MEETING
OF ~HE TUSTIN CIT~ COUNCIL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
300 Centennial Way
Nov-tuber 16, 1981
TI. ~
~.~%T.T.
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Pro Tern Hoesterey at 3:10
p.m.
Councilpersons Present:
Councilpersons Absent:
Others Present:
Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli
Sharp
Alan R. Watts, Deputy City Attorney
william A. Huston, City Manager
Mary E. Wynn, City Clerk
Mike Brotemarkle, Co~. Dev. Director
Ken Fleagle, Planning Consultant
Bob Ledendecker, Director of Public Works
Ron Nault, Finance Director
Royleen White, Community Services Director
Eva Solis, Deputy City Clerk
Approximately 8 in the audience
III. P~-
S--~TATIO~8
1.
Gene Shaw, District Office Manager, Automobile club of Southern
California, presented a "Special Citation for Outstanding Pedes-
trian Accident Record" in the 1980 American Automobile Associa-
tion Pedestrian Safety Inventory Program.
Mayor Pro Tem Hoesterey accepted the award on behalf of the City
and expressed thanks to the Police and Engineering Departments
and to the citizens of Tustin. 84
2. p~OCL~MATIO~ - SPECIAL ~Y~PICS/DA~u~z'uON '81 DAY
Mayor Pro Tem Hoesterey read and presented the proclamation
designating Sunday, Nov,mher 22, 1981, as Special Olympics/
Dancethon '81 Day to Kathy Davis. The Community Services Direc-
tor interjected that she wo~ld be participating in the Dancethon
and encouraged everyone to sign her pledge card.
PUBLIC
COnCErNS
None
CALENDAR
It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Saltarelli, to approve the e~tire
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 4-0, Sharp absent.
1. APPROVAL OF MI~=~'~ - November 2, 1981 Regular Meeting
November 9, 1981 Special Meeting
2. APP~O~AL OF D~S in the amount of $186,979.07.
RA~FICATI~ OF pAYI~0~L in the amount of $98,546.40.
5O
FINAL ACC~ANCE OF PUBLIC IMP~v~M~TS ~ ~ASE OF BO~DS,
T~J2T NO. 10677 (Quail place Development located on Vandenberg
Lane between Yorba Street and Prospect Avenue)
Accept all public improvements within Tract No. 10677 and
authorize the release of Bond No. L05-047312 - Faithful Per-
formance, $6,450.00, and Bond No. L05-047312 Labor and
Materials, $3,225.00 as recon=aended by the City Engineer.
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VI ·
NANCE FOR
1.
VII. OI~I-
N~CE FOR
AI~IO~
1.
VIII · ~
B~INESS
1.
FINA~ ACC~rANCE OF PUBLIC IMP~O¥~TS
TI~%CT NO. 10258 (Residential condominium conversion located on
the easterly side of "B" Street between McFadden Avenue and
Mitchell Avenue)
Accept all public improvements within Tract No. 10258 and
authorize the release of Bond No. 9SM-552-792 - Faithful
Performance, $14,600.00; Bond No. 95M-552-792 - Labor and
Materials, $7,300.00; and Bond No. 95M-552-794 - Monumenta-
rich, $1,000.00, as recommended by the City Engineer.
O~DINANCE NO. 863 - An Ordinance of the City Council of the City
of Tustin, California, ADDING SECTION 1418 TO THE TUSTIN CITY
CODE REGARDING THE OFFICE OF CITY MANAGER
It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Saltarelli, that Ordinance
No. 863 have first reading by title only. Carried 4-0, Sharp
absent. Following reading of the title by the City Clerk, it
was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, that Ordinance No. 863
be introduced. Motion carried 4-0, Sharp absent. 35
O~IN~u~ NO. 859 - An Ordinance of the City Council of the City
of Tustin, California, ADOPTED AS AN URGENCY MEASURE PROHIBITING
STRUCTURES IN THE R-3, MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, DISTRICT IN
EXCESS OF PRESCRIBED HEIGHTS WITHIN CERTAIN DISTANCES OF PROP-
ERTY ZONES R-A, E-4, AND R-1.
It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, ko continue Ordi-
nance No. 859 to the December 7, 1981, meeting. Carried 4-0,
Sharp absent. 81
As recommended by the Director of Public Works, it was moved by
Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, to continue the matter to the eve-
ning meeting. Carried 4-0, Sharp absent. 100
2. POLITY ~ING ~'~I/C gZHhTNG gOTICES
The City Manager presented the staff report and recommendation.
It was then moved by Edgar, seconded by Kennedy, to approve the
policy as presented in the report dated November 10, 1981, pre-
pared by the City Manager.
Councilman Saltarelli spoke in opposition to the expanded noti-
fication radius above and beyond State requirements, but would
be agreeable to a 500' radius on an as-needed basis. Councilman
Edgar felt extending the norm is advantageous due to the sensi-
tivity of public hearing notices. Councilwoman Kennedy felt the
500' radius would act as a safety precaution and fulfill the
letter and intent of the State Code. Mayor Pro Tem Hoesterey
stated the intent was to insure that affected organizations
(such as homeowners' groups, business groups, etc.) were noti-
fied of public hearings. The City Manager responded to Council-
woman Kennedy that the computer will only store and retrieve
property owner names by parcel nun%bet, but will not draw a 500'
radius around a specific location.
A substitute motion was made by Hoesterey, seconded by Edgar, to
approve the amended policy as follows:
Ail property owners within 300 feet of the affected property
will receive written notice of the public hearing a minimum
of 10 days before the scheduled date of the hearing.
Notices will also be conspicuously posted within the
affected area.
X. OTHE~
BUSINESS
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Ail homeowner associations or other local organizations
representing the interests of property owners within 300
feet of the affected property shall receive written notice.
3. Ail notices of a public hearing will be sent by first class
mail with the envelope or postcard marked as follows:
OFFICIAL NOTICE
A~CTS ~0UR PROPEI~Y
PLEASE lq~D !
40
The City may evaluate and utilize other means of providing
public notices, such as computer programming and cable tele-
vision (announcement of public hearings on the public ser-
vice channel) which are cost-effective.
Council/staff discussion followed. The Deputy City Attorney
commented that by enacting a limitation in excess of State law
requirements, the City may someday be challenged if it violates
its own 500 foot requirement, even though it was more strict
than the State law. Also, there is now a more strict require-
ment to check advance listings of property ownership prior to
the time they become a finalized roll if it is not too burden-
some on the public agency responsible for notice. Following his
commentS, the substitute motion carried 4-0, Sharp absent. 83
1. Ak'ARD ~ BID - 1982 ANdUaZ.
Bids were solicited for the following measured quantity items:
4" Broken Line - 192,180 L.F.; 4" Solid Line ~ 61,160 L.F.; 6"
Solid Bike Lane - 28,540 L.F.; 8" Solid Line - 28,060 L.F.;
Double Solid Line - 104,393 L.F.; and Double solid and Broken
Line - 8,170 L.F. Bids were received as follows:
Orange County Striping Service, Inc., Irvine $21,235.90
J and S Sign Company, Inc., Orange $23,666.72
Safety Striping Service, Inc., Fillmore $24,450.22
As reconmnended in the memo dated November 3, 1981, prepared by
the Director of Public Works, it was moved by Edgar, seconded by
Kenn'edy, to award the bid for street striping services to Orange
County Striping Service, Inc., Irvine, in the amount of
$21,235.90 effective January 1, 1982. Carried 4-0, Sharp
absent. 95
AgFA~D OF BID - POLICE ~PI~a~EM~NT V~I~ (F~nded from
Equipment/Vehicle Leasing Fund)
Bids were received for a 1/2-ton van-type vehicle as follows:
Villa Ford, Orange
Santa Aha Ford, Santa Aha
Guaranty Chevrolet, Santa Aha
Bill Corwin Ford, Orange
the
$8,953.66
$8,975.88
$9,260.65
$9,293.41
As recommended in the memo dated November 3, 1981, prepared by
the Director of Public Works, it was moved by Edgar, seconded by
Kennedy, to award the bid for a 1982 Ford E100 1/2-ton van to
villa Ford, Orange, in the amount of $8,953.66. Motion carried
4-0, Sharp absent. 87
~ES~TIO~ NO. 81-124 - A Resolution of the City Council of the
of Tustin, ~ONFIRMING THE MASTER PROPERTY TAX TRANSFER
City
AGREEMENT FOR PROPOSED NEWPORT/VANDERLIP ANNEXATION NO. 129
As recommended by the City Manager, it was moved by Edgar, sec-
onded by Kennedy, to adopt Resolution No. 81-124. Carried 4-0,
Sharp absent. 24
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2. STREET MARKINGS DESIGNATING FI~ HYDP~%NT LOCATI(H~
In response to Councilman Edgar, the Public Works Director
reported that the blue reflectors used to designate location of
fire hydrants were installed in County areas as a joint project
with the Fire and Road Departments. To do this within City
limits would be solely financed by the City, with no financing
from the County. Staff has kept this type project in mind, and
if the b~dget is within reason, intends to suggest same towards
the end of the year at a rough approximate cost of $8,000 to
complete throughout the City.
3 .' TOXIC ~%STE DISPOSAL SITE
Councilman Edgar made reference to written correspondence from
the City Attorney regarding certification of the EIR on the
waste disposal site, and urged the City to continue critizing
the EIR process to maintain any legal standing should the EIR be
certified without the City's active critical input. The City
Manager responded that staff will continue to raise objections
and demand response during the EIR process. Staff has met with
the County Dept. of Education encouraging them to respond which
they have, and the Irvine Company has also been contacted and
responded.
The Community Development Director stated that staff did
respond to the draft EIR within the 45 days, and the consul-
tant's next step is to prepare a final EIR. Once the final EIR
is prepared, a hearing will be set before the County Planning
Commission to certify the EIR. At this point, there has been no
response to City comments on the draft EIR. City co~u~ents
should be included, along with the response to those comments,
in a final EIR which we would then have an opportunity to review
before the Planning Com~aission hearing for certification. The
City Manager added that the City is waiting to respond to the
final draft and will continue to stay alert on the matter.
In response to Councilman Edgar, the City Manager indicated that
correspondence to our legislative respresentatives in terms of
the urgency of a Clean Water Act decision was mailed by his
office on this date.
5. TI~rA~LE OF
The Public Works Director responded to Councilman Edgar that the
time schedule indicated that solicitation of bids would commence
in November before a consultant prepares the designs. Staff has
commenced solicitation of bids on the E1 Camino Real design pro-
ject which are scheduled to be submitted on November 25, with a
recommendation to the Redevelopment Agency on December 7.
On the park project, bids will be going out this month; once
those are submitted staff will screen them down to six or seven
consultants and conduct interviews; and the recommendation to
Council will be submitted approximately January 4, 1982.
6. TOXIC ~%STE TRAN~K STATI(~
Councilwoman Kennedy reiterated Councilman Edgar's concerns on
the matter, and requested that this be held in top priority.
Jeffrey McElderry, Chamber of Commerce representative, reported
that the Chamber of Commerce has written to both Supervisor
Riley and Assemblyman Lewis on the matter. Assemblyman Lewis,
in turn, has communicated with Supervisor Riley. Mr. McEldery
continued that Assemblyman Lewis' assistant sent him a letter
advising him of Assemblyman Lewis' actions, and was informed
that it still appears the No. 1 site is in Tustin, with a deci-
sion expected in December.
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XI.
RECESS--
avoWING
It was moved by Saltarelli, seconded by Edgar, to adjourn at 4:00
p.m. to the 7:30 p.m. evening session. Carried 4-0, Sharp absent.
CIT~ CO~CIL ~TING
7:30 P.M. ~riNG
I · CLTT'T.
The City Council meeting
Hoesterey at 7:30 p.m.
was called to order by Mayor Pro Tem
II.
C~T.'r.
Councilpersons Present:
Councilpersons Absent:
Others Present:
Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy
Saltarelli, Sharp
Alan R. Watts, Deputy City Attorney
William A. Huston, City Manager
Mary E. Wynn, City Clerk
Mike Brotemarkle, Co~. Dev. Director
Bob Ledendecker, Director of Public Works
Charles R. Thayer, Police Chief
Jeff Davis, Planning Intern
Approximately 25 in the audience
III. P~E-~-
TATIO~S
Plaques were presented by Mayor Pro Tem Hoesterey to Cherrill Webb
for managing the Tustin Tiller Day Fair and to Terry Sorenson, repre-
sentative of the Tustin Jaycees, for managing the Tustin Tiller Day
Parade. 84
IV. ~ECESS
It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kennedy, to recess to the Plan-
ning Agency at 7:34 p.m. Motion carried 3-0, Sharp and Saltarelli
ab sent.
V.
VE~ The meeting was reconvened by Mayor Pro Tem Hoesterey at 8.' 18 p.m.
VI. P0~uIC
~%RINGS
1..
APPWaT. ~ PLA~Tf~G ~=~C~ ~ISI(H~ u~x~G ~I%RIANCE 81-7 (Monu-
ment sign for Liquor/Deli store in Enderle Center, 17440 17th,
Suite D)
The staff report was presented by the Community Develo~anent
Director, reconm~ending upholding the Planning Agency's denial of
Variance 81-7.
Mr. Kam Yee, applicant, explained that he is not asking for a new
sign but permission to relocate a sign. Without a monument sign,
the future of his store is uncertain because traffic in the
center is not sufficient to support the store. Two previous
variances were granted for restaurants and this sign would not be
detrimental to the community. Two-thirds of the store is deli and
one-third is liquor.
Jim Shimozono, Managing General Partner of Enderle Center, sup-
ported Mr. Yee's request saying that businesses in that location
have had problems surviving. The Center will sacrifice a 75 sq.
ft. center identification sign if the variance is granted.
The public hearing was closed at 8:32 p.m.
It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, to authorize a sign
that precisely matches all dimensions of the "Ho-Ho" Restaurant
sign. He justified the motion on the basis of the large footage
of the facility, dispensing of food, and deletion of a center
identification sign.
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VII. PUBLIC
CONCERNS None
VIII. OLD
BUS~S
IX. OTHER
BUSINESS
Councilwoman Kennedy stated she could not support the motion
because Enderle Center is setting a precedent. Salty Sam's,
despite a variance for a sign, is no longer in business. The
motion carried 2-1, Kennedy opposed, Saltarelli and Sharp absent.
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PBOPOSED Z~qING ~0~E ~DM~TS FOR ~ESIDENTIAL HEIGHT LImITA-
TIOnS - ORDINANCE NO. 862
The Community Development Director recommended that this item be
continued to the December 7, 1981 meeting to coincide with the
Planning Agency hearing.
The public hearing was opened at 8:39 p.m.
There being no conunents or objections, it was moved by Edgar,
seconded by Kennedy, to continue the public hearing to the
December 7 meeting. Carried 3-0, Saltarelli and Sharp absent.
1. SYCAMOI~ AV~E/CARFAX AVENUE TRAFFIC STUDY
The Director of Public Works reported that staff had previously
investigated installation of a four-way stop sign at Carfax and
Sycamore and the warrants were not met. The traffic counts are
between 9300 and 9800. Widening of the street was not studied,
as that would increase traffic. The City has only 15 or 20 per-
cent of the right-of-way to widen. If widened, some buildings
would have to be remodeled or removed. The Director did not
think the City could consider widening until traffic counts reach
15,000 or 16,000, and recon~nended that no additional action
regarding the intersection of Sycamore and Carfax Avenue be taken
at this time.
Councilwoman Kennedy said that since the recommendation is to do
nothing at this time, could the crosswalks and red curbing be
repainted. The Director agreed to this.
Suzanne Zier, 1152 Meir Lane, asked about reducing the speed
limit of 35 mph on Sycamore between Red Hill and Newport.
The Public Works Director responded that speed limit studies have
to be reviewed every five years, and he would check if this is
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POSSIBLE HEGIO~AL A~RPOI~ SITE
Councilwoman Kennedy requested that staff stay informed on the
possible site of a regional airport near Irvine Lake. Councilman
Edgar said that there has been no analytical reports on this and
it would be premature to make any reco~endation at this time.
2. USE 0~ I~A FD~DS FOR uv~RPA~S ~A~DING
Councilman Edgar acknowledged the memo from the City Attorney
relating to the possibility of using existing RDA funds for the
Newport Avenue overpass at Edinger but asked if there was some-
thing else that needed to be done to further investigate this.
The City Manager explained that the City Attorney has given the
legal opinion that you can use tax increment funds outside of a
project area. The real issue is the priority of the project. We
have many projects that have potential. This project could lead
to land acquisition and bonding. Staff will be studying these
projects.
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
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Jeff McElderry, representative from Chamber of Cc~nerce, asked if
the City could install an at-grade crossing which would save alot
of money. It was explained to him that staff has been pursuing
this for some time but the public Utilities Co~nission (PUC) has
to approve it and we have not yet been able to get approval.
Staff will continue c~mmunicating with PUC.
3. ~ ~ PO~ITI~an SI~S
Councilman Hoesterey suggested withholding bonds until political
signs have been removed within the City. Council concurred.
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Because of confusion to Paramedics re Walnut Avenue and Walnut
Street on a recent call, Councilman Hoesterey asked about chang-
ing the name of Walnut Street.
The Director of Public Works responded that the City had looked
into this about five or six years ago, the residents were polled,
and the 100% response was that they did not want the name
changed.
Council concurred to poll the residents again.
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Councilman Hoesterey reported that there are quite a few bicycles
that traverse the sidewalks outside City Hall and asked staff to
look into signing or other possible action.
ADJOU~NT
It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kennedy, to adjourn at 9:00 p.m.
to the next regular meeting on December 7, 1981. Carried.