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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES 09-08-81MI~=£~S OF A I~Gu~AR ~K~k~NG OF THE TUSTIN ~ COUNCIL COUNCIL CHAMBERS 300 Centennial Way September 8, 1981 TO Ol~DE~ The meeting was called to order by Mayor Sharp at 5:58 p.m. II. ROL~ CAT-?- Councilpersons Present: Councilpersons Absent: Others Present: Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli, Sharp None James G. Rourke, City Attorney William A. Huston, City Manager Mary E. Wynn, City Clerk Mike Brotemarkle, Conun. Dev. Director Bob Ledendecker, City Engineer Roy Gonzales, Personnel Director Ronald Nault, Finance Director B~yleen White, Community Services Director R. Kenneth Fleagle, Consultant AGE~DA O~DER IIX. NEW B~SINESS 6. vKH,CT~ WEIG=r LIMIT ~-'K~CTIO~$ ON CErtAIN W--~,-~ - Pacific and "B" Streets between Main and Sixth Streets A. J. Holub, 644 S. "B" St., requested that no restrictions be put on "B" Street or Pacific Street until something is done about a traffic signal and street parking at 6th and Pacific Streets. He also requested that no traffic tickets be given until this problem area is corrected. Council concurred to direct staff to study downtown truck traf- fic, weight loads, parking on 6th and E1 Camino, etc. and this to preclude any ticketing regarding weight restrictions. Matt Nisson, property owner at Walnut Ave. and Red Hill Ave., agreed that the traffic signal needs modification but felt that could be done without widening the street. Councilman Saltarelli expressed that 4 or 5 more feet would allow us to have another lane of traffic. Bob Ledendecker, City Engineer, agreed that another lane of traffic would help some but that this would have nothing to do with Tustin Meadows Association's request. People are going into Tustin Meadows to avoid the light. At the morning rush hour, 6 out of 10 cars go into Tustin Meadows. Mr. Ledendecker said that a left turn signal could be put in but he would not recommend it because it would take green time away from Red Hill which would cause a greater traffic congestion. The pedestrian way could be eliminated for a right turn lane. Councilman Hoesterey said that this would not take care of the problem, which is too many cars on Red Hill. It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kennedy, to defer any action until staff can look into alternatives discussed at this meet- ing. Carried 5-0. It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, to adjourn at 6:20 p.m. to the 7:30 p.m. meeting. Carried 5-0. City Council Minutes Page 2, 9-8-81 II. III · MATIO~S CIT~ ~CIL ~K~L'ING ~ECO~FENED 7:40 P.M. The City Council meeting was called to order at 7:40 p.m. by Mayor Sharp. Councilpersons Present: Councilpersons Absent: Others Present: Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli, Sharp None James G. Rourke, City Attorney William A. Huston, City Manager Mary E. Wynn, City Clerk Mike Brotemarkle, Comm. Dev. Director Bob Ledendecker, City Engineer Roy Gonzales, Personnel Director Ronald Nault, Finance Director Royleen White, Community Services Director R. Kenneth Fleagle, Consultant Charles Thayer, Police Chief Approximately 5 in the audience Proclamations to Southern California Water Watch, Cystic Fibrosis Week, and The National Council on Alcoholism to be mailed. Michael Shermer picked up his proclamation at the afternoon meeting for the Cure Paralysis Foundation. IV. P~BLIC CO~C~K~S . None City Council Minutes, Page 4, 9-8-81 VI. OEDINANCES FOR I~I~)D~CTIO~ - None vl~. C)~D]~HC~S FOR~3~OP'~JXX~ 1. o~.o. s55 ~ Ordinance of the City Co~cil of the City of ~stin, Califo~ nia, ~ING ~E FIN~CI~ LIMITATIONS OF THE ~DE~P~ P~ FOR THE TO~ C~R A~ ~DEV~OP~ PROJE~ It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kennedy, that Ordinance No. 855 have second reading by title only. Carried 5-0. Following ~e reading of ~e title of Ordinance No. 855 by ~e City Clerk, it was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, to pass and adopt Ordinance No. 855. RO~ ~ VOTE: AYES: Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli, Sharp NOES: None 2. O~ NO. 858 ~ ordinance of the City Co~cil of the City of ~stin, ~ZONING PROPERTY ON ZONE C~NGE ~PLICATION 81-5 AT 14351 ~D HI~ A~ It was moved ~ Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, that Ordinance No. 858 have second reading by title ~ly. Carried 4-0, Saltarelli ~stain- ing because of ~al Estate connections wi~ this property. Following the reading of the title of Ordinance No. 858'by the City Clerk, it was ~ved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, to ~ss ~d adopt Ordinance No. 858. Council Minutes, Page 3, 9-8-81 7. RES0~-r~ON NO. 81-101 (No financial Impact) A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Tustin, Califor- nia, DESIGNATING PLACEMENT OF CERTAIN STOP SIGNS (Lorelei Ln at Williams ) Adoption of Resolution No. 81-101 designating the placement of stop signs on Lorelei Lane at Williams Street as recom- mended by the City Engineer. 8. RES0X~TION NO. 81-102 A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Tustin, Califor- nia, ENDORSING THE LOCAL ~EGULATION OF CABLE TELEVISION FRAN- CHISES AND OPPOSING THE ADOPTION OF UNITED STATES SENATE BILL 898 Adoption of Resolution No. 81-102 as presented by the City Attorney. 9. RES(~uT~ONNO. 81-100 A Resolution of the Tustin City Council of the City of Tustin APPROVING TENTATIVE TRACT 11582 (1082, 1092 and 1102 San Juan) Adoption of Resolution No. 81-100 as recommended by the Com- munity Development Department. 10. ~S(~rTIO~NO. 81-103 (Budgeted Item) A ~solution of the City Council of the City of Tustin, Califor- nia, APPROVING PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR NELSON SCHOOL SIDE- WALK Adoption of Resolution No. 81-103 as recommended by the Engineering Department. 11. RESOX/~TIONNO. 81-104 A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Tustin, Califor- nia, COMMENDING CHARLES R. THAYER FOR HIS OUTSTANDING SERVICE AS INTERIM CITY MANAGER Adoption of Resolution No. 81-104 as requested by the City Council. 12. RESOluTiON NO. 81-105 A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Tustin ACCEPTING WORKS OF IMPROVEMENT AND AUTHORIZING RECORDATION OF NOTICE OF COMPLETION (Median Island Landscaping and Traffic Signal Conduit) Adoption of Resolution No. 81-105 and ass%~ning no claims or stop payment notices are filed within 30 days of the date of recordation of the Notice of Completion, authorize payment of the final 10% retention ($13,440.89) at that time. 13. CO~u~T~TC~T~CTFOR R. Authorize the Mayor to approve an agreement with R. Kenneth Fleagle for consulting services under the same terms and con- ditions as the 1980-81 agreement as recommended by the City Manager. Mayor Sharp asked that Item No. 11 be removed from the Consent Calendar. It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, to approve the Consent Calendar except for Item No. 11. Carried 5-0. It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, that Resolution No. 81-104 be passed and adopted. Carried 5-0. Mayor Sharp read Resolution No. 81-104 in its entirety and presented a framed copy of it to Charles Thayer for his service as Interim City Manager. He was also presented with a historical picture of the early Tustin officials. Mayor Sharp introduced the new City Manager William A. Huston. City Council Minutes, Page 4, 9-8-81 VI. O~DINANCE~ FOR llTFItODUCTION - None ORDINANCES FOR ~DOPTI~ 1 · O~DINANCE NO. 855 An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Tustin, Califor- nia, AMENDING THE FINANCIAL LIMITATIONS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE TOWN CENTER AREA REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kennedy, that Ordinance No. 855 have second reading by title only. Carried 5-0. Following the reading of the title of Ordinance No. 855 by the City Clerk, it was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, to pass and adopt Ordinance No. 855. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli, Sharp NOES: None 2. O~DINANCENO. 858 An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Tustin, REZONING PROPERTY ON ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION 81-5 AT 14351 RED HILL AVENUE It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, that Ordinance No. 858 have second reading by title only. Carried 4-0, Saltarelli abstain- ing because of Real Estate connections with this property. Following the reading of the title of Ordinance No. 858'by the City Clerk, it was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, to pass and adopt Ordinance No. 858. ROLL C~.~. VOTE: AYES: Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Sharp NOES: None ABSTAINING: Saltarelli VIII. OLD BUSINESS 1. CO~,~I'FI'EE/BOAI~ I~I,~RlqEPORTTNG SYSTEM (No financial impact) It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, to approve the reporting form attached to the staff report from Charles Thayer, Interim City Manager, dated August 26, 1981, which will be sent quarterly to each appointed committee/board member and that the representative for the Airport Committee be included on the list of committees. R. Kenneth Fleagle, Consultant, pointed out that it is required by law that the City have a Relocation Assistance Agency which was cre- ated by Resolutions 74-32 and 76-56. Motion carried 5-0. IX. BUSINESS 1. TRAffiC SIG~A~ ~0DIFICATION AT ~D ~ AND ~%LN~T A~ This item was heard at the afternoon meeting and is recorded on Page 1 of these Minutes. 2. P~BLIC ~0~ES DEPArtMenT P~n~.-VACANCIES (Financial Savings) It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, to authorize: a. Recruitment for and filling of the Water Service Maintenance Worker position; b. Downgrading of the vacant Ass't Civil Engineer posi- tion to a Jr. Civil Engineer position and the filling of the Jr. Civil Engineer with David Poage on a closed promotional basis; and c. Downgrade the salary range of the Engineering Aide position at all steps by an amount of 5%. Carried 5-0. city Council Minutes, Page 5, 9-8-81 3. DESIGNATION OF VOTING D~.~TE FOR T.R%GU~ It was moved by Sharp, seconded by Kennedy, to designate Richard B. Edgar as the voting representative and Ronald B. Hoesterey as the alternate for the Business Session of the League Annual Conference. Carried 5-0. Since the League Annual Conference is not over until Monday, October 19th, which is a Council meeting date, it was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, to change the Planning Agency, Redevelopment Agency, and City Council meetings to Wednesday, October 21st at 3:00 P.M. Carried 5-0. 4. REqueST FOR ASHT~ R~/~OVAL (13662 Estero Circle) It was moved by Hoesterey, seconded by Edgar, to remove the two (2) parkway frontage Ash trees .at 13662 Estero Circle, to replace with trees that are mutually agreed upon by the owner and the City, and that the damaged cement work be added to the repair list to be repaired as soon as possible. Carried 5-0. 5. A~ OF BID - MI~-K..r. aN~O~S CIT~ v~-.CLE8 Bids were submitted as recorded in the City Engineer's staff report dated September 2, 1981. William Huston, City Manager, requested that one Guaranty Chevrolet be deleted frc~ the list. Bob Ledendecker, City Engineer, that Ford is under the rebate reflect the $300 or $305 rebate. reported that he had received word program and these prices do not It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, to award the following bids as recom~nended by the public Works Department: VILLA FORD 1981 Ford Fairmont standard 4-door sedan ......... ..$7,222.58 1981 " " " " " ........... 7,246.14 1981 " " " " " ........... 7,274.18 $21,742.90 6% Sales Tax 1,304.57 TOTAL $23,047.47 SANTA ANA FORD 1981 Ford Fairmont standard 4-door sedan ........... $7,524.69 1981 Ford Courier 1/2 ton pick-up .................. 6~784.50 $14,309.19 6% Sales Tax 858.55 TOTAL $15,167.74 GUARANTY CHEVROLET 1981 Chevrolet Malibu 4-door sedan ................. $7,768.00 6% Sales Tax 466.08 TOTAL $8,234.08 and the following bids as reco~nended by the Police Department: SANTA ANA LINCOLN MERCURY 1981 Mercury Marquis - 4-door hatchback ............ $9,980.27 1981. Mercury Cougar - 4-door sedan ................. 8,889.83 $18,870.10 6% Sales Tax 1,132.21 TOTAL $20,002.31 GUARANTY CHEVROLET 1981 Chevrolet Chevette - 4-door hatchback ......... $6,655.00 6% Sales Tax 399.30 TOTAL $7,054.30 Motion carried 5-0. City Council Minutes, Page 6, 9-8-81 X. OTHER B~SINESS 1 · HCDA P~0GRAM The Community Development Director recommended that the City Council should take the official action that was discussed at the Planning Agency meeting regarding the HCDA program. It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, that staff be directed to seek reasonable assurances from the county that the HCDA money would be spent in the City of Tustin and the City Attorney to study legal aspects. Attorney Rourke stated that after giving it further thought, since only 2 people spoke for the HCDA program and no one spoke against it at the two public hearings that were held, he did not see any reason to have another public hearing. The Council agreed that if the County can give them satisfactory assurances, a Special Meeting will be called. Motion carried 5-0. 2. Jsa~lsa~J~v~ SESSION Bill Huston, City Manager, requested an Executive Session following the meeting for legal and personnel matters. Councilwoman Kennedy asked if the Police Dept. wanted to agendize some of the suggestions contained in the Police report on the chemi- cal spill for the next meeting. Chief Thayer responded that the mobile phones will be brought before the Council at the next meet- ing. Councilman Edgar suggested mailing a copy of the report to other Police Chiefs in Orange County. 4. T0XIC~A~rm STATION Councilwoman Kennedy brought up that the Council had agreed to try to block a toxic waste station in Tustin. City Manager Huston said that staff would have a report for the Council soon. 5. ~.~AL~EA~ESTATE SIGN Mike Brotemarkle, Community Development Director, reported that the owner of the illegal real estate sign in Tustin Meadows will not remove the sign and staff will probably have to follow up with legal action. Councilwoman Kennedy reported that a resident of the "B" Street Mobile Home Park had talked to her about the improvements that were promised if they were annexed which have not been done. Councilman Saltarelli responded that those residents of the Mobile Home Park voted unanimously not to be annexed to the City. We made no promises to them whatsoever. They were annexed under the MORGA Act. Dr. Fleagle, Consultant, agreed. Mr. Saltarelli felt the improvements for "B" Street Mobile Home Park annexation should be put on a priority list and be treated the same as other areas of the City. City Council Minutes, Page 7, 9-8-81 XI. Councilman Edgar suggested that we ask the County for financial help on the Columbus Tustin Park Recreation Facility since the park is so close to County area. Royleen White, Community Services Director, pointed out that the amount the County would contrib.ute is a very small portion and if they contribute, we will not be able to charge non resident fees for programs. Mr. Edgar agreed we should not pursue it. Council concurred to send letters to legislators opposing legisla- tion forbidding cities to ban sale and use of fireworks. Councilman Edgar commended Ron Nault on the Water Fund Budget Report and suggested that we should try to find funds for next year. 10. i~l~'£]sd~C~ OF S][D~4]~T~ ~ '~0 ~ #~'r.'r~; Councilman Edgar received a complaint from one of the neighbors who jogs on Yorba Street about maintenance of the sidewalks next to block walls. Bob Ledendecker, City Engineer, responded that at pre- sent we do not have enough staff to maintain all the sidewalks at the rear of property so it is up to the adjacent owner. He said he -would prepare a report on how many miles or feet of sidewalk would have to be maintained. Mayor Sharp reported illegal sale of fire wood on Second and "B" Street. The Co~nunity Development Director said that we are almost to the point of legal action on this matter. It could be a lengthy court case. ADJO~c~q~T- It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Hoesterey, to adjourn at 8:27 P.M. to an Executive Session for Legal and Personnel matters and thence to the next regular meeting on September 21, 1981. MI~x'~S OF AN ADJOUI~n ~OI~KSHOP OF THE TUSTIN CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL CHAMBERS 300 Centennial Way August 31, 1981 I. CAL~ TO O~DER The meeting was called to order by Mayor Sharp at 7:35 p.m. II. ~OF.~. C~T~ Councilpersons Present: Councilpersons Absent: Sharp, Kennedy, Saltarelli Hoesterey and Edgar Charles Thayer, Interim City Manager Mary E. Wynn, City Clerk Mike Brotemarkle, Comm. Dev. Director Robert Ledendecker, City Engineer Alan Warren, Senior Planner Ed Knight, Associate Planner R. Kenneth Fleagle, Consultant Approximately 75 in the audience Doug Gfeller, Gfeller Development Company, explained the project. Gfeller will be preserving the Stevens House and building seven other office build- ings. The remodeling on the Stevens House will be finished around November 1 at which time Gfeller Company will move in. He displayed the landscaping plans and the brick walls with wrought iron. He explained that originally they had planned to have underground parking but decided against it because it would limit landscaping. They purchased lots on "C" Street for parking and had received approval from the Planning Agency for the change in parking. There is enough parking on the lot to acco~.odate their project. The City was offered air space rights for a parking structure if it desired to pay for the structure with no cost for the land. The City Council approved the parking structure at its meeting on August 3, 1981. Mr. Gfeller continued that this workshop was primarily for ~nformation about the Plaza. The first proposal left "C" Street as it is today. City staff was concerned about one of the prime lots being turned into a parking structure and ramp as they felt the ramp might block the privacy of the homes in the area. If all the traffic from the parking structure exited onto "C" Street, it might require a signal at "C" and Main Streets. Staff suggested eliminat- ing the ramp and designing the parking structure so that half the traffic would use the northern access and half the southern access. Gfeller lowered the parking three feet below street grade for the neighbors' benefit which will make it less than a one-story building. "C" Street was realigned so that it could be used by local traffic and so that traffic from the structure would be split in each direction. The Plaza could be used for park concerts or for people to sit in, and it is about three feet above street level with the rest of the area at standard street level. Since the Plaza would be used by the public, the City would provide approximately $50,000 and Gfeller Development approximately $125,000 of the cost. Mr. Gfeller stated that if the City does not participate in the Plaza or even the parking structure, his development can stand on its own merits. George Broome11 was opposed to the Plaza because he felt it would increase traffic on "B" Street and Pacific Street, and he pointed out that Jamestown Village and E1 Camino Plaza have plenty of parking space in their lots. Abby Andrews agreed with Mr. Broomell and added that Sixth and "B" Streets and Sixth and E1 Camino are becoming hazardous intersections. The City Engineer responded that the Sixth and E1 Camino Real intersection is becoming a problem spot with poor visibility and will need a signal in the future. A resident of Pacific Street asked about the height of the wall. Mr. Gfeller responded the wall itself is 42" high and within City standards,, which was verified by the Comunity Development Director. Ed Pankey of "B" Street was concerned about traffic increase on "B" Street as a result of the Plaza and wants "C" Street to be left as is. CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 2, 8-31-81 Walter Flaherty, 190 E1 Camino, was concerned about increase in traffic, traf- fic jams, undesirable truck traffic, the need for at least three traffic signals, and whether the streets are built to withstand increased traffic. He felt the public should have the right to know what Gfeller paid for the lots for the parking structure. Mr. Gfeller agreed to make the amount available to City staff, but stated that their financial costs were confidential; however, he revealed that the land cost was more than the cost for the parking structure. John Roach, downtown merchant, was in favor of the Plaza and said that the property bought for the parking structure had begun to look like a ghetto. The owner of Rose Marie Draperies was in favor of the Plaza. She stated when she first moved in it was like a ghost town with nothing for a parking lot. Ruth Rowland did not see the need to close "C" Street and stated her opposi- tion · Mr. Gfeller explained that the street would not be closed, but would be realigned and constructed for two-way traffic and fire and emergency equip- ment. Councilman Saltarelli stated that irrespective of this project, we should look at restricting truck traffic on Pacific, "B" and "C" Streets and direct them to Sixth and E1 Camino Real. Paul Berkman, owner of Rutabegorz Restaurant on Main at "C" Street, spoke in favor of the project. Speed Schuster, speaking as a resident, was in favor of the project, stating that the City has an obligation to clean up this area and if it is not done, we will have a st~ area. The downtown area would be fortunate if they had a traffic problem. N. Dawson wanted to be sure the residents were considered. She asked what was going to camouflage the parking structure. Mr. Gfeller explained that the parking structure would be three feet below street grade, it will have three foot wall with opening of wrought iron and then a foul-foot band of concrete. The design is subject to City approval. It will not be a tilt-up block wall 14 ft. high, but will be aesthetically pleasing. In response to Mrs. Kennedy, he said that the Plaza area for sit- ting and activities would be about 5,000 sq. ft. Mrs. Dodge, resident of Tustin Meadows, was opposed to the project. Councilman Saltarelli explained that this workshop was not regarding the park- ing structure, as the Council was already committed to that, but was just for the Plaza and the realignment of "C" Street. The Council does not want to condemn anyone's property for parking purposes, but would rather work with developers to accomplish this. In eight or nine years, the taxes from the Gfeller proposal will pay for the parking structure. Bill Moses, owner of Tustin News, criticized City staff for failing to have an up-to-date traffic study on "C" Street. He was concerned about truck traffic if "C" Street is realigned. He was in favor of developing a pleasant histori- cal plan for the Stevens house and felt the parking structure merits consider- ation, but was opposed to realignment of "C" Street. Mr. Alman, "C" Street, questioned the Iow fignre of $600,000 to build a park- ing structure. Mr. Gfeller explained that for the past 12 months the struc- tures have been built for about $15 to $20 per sq. ft. Because of the depressed economic outlook, builders are putting them up cheaper. A markup will be charged on this, but it will just be Gfeller's cost. At the Redevel- opment Agency's direction, Gfeller's attorney and the City Attorney are work- ing on an agreement with some fixed maxim~ price. Gfeller will have fixed price bids. The digging of the hole will not cost anything and 'construction management costs will be absorbed by the project. Mayor Sharp responded to another resident that the City is looking into other parking sites as well, but this was an opportunity the City saw a need to take advantage of now. CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 3, 8-31-81 Carl Greenwood, Tustin Presbyterian Church, said their main concern is traf- fic. He did not feel it would be easy for people to get in and out of the realigned street. It may be that the Plaza will not accomplish what is intended. Mr. Pankey thought the project was very attractive but expressed that if "C" Street were left as is, it would continue to be a comercial area. However, if the Plaza were approved, it would become semi-residential and semi- commercial. Audrey Heredia said she was in favor of the project and thought it would be a shot in the arm for downtown merchants. Her business is on the second floor and she has never been aware of large trucks on "C" Street. There is a lot of pedestrian traffic. If there is a traffic problem on "B" and Pacific now, the realignment of "C" Street is not going to affect that. Victor Anderson, Tustin Blacksmith Shop, pointed out that there is a park just a block away and people are not just sitting around in it. He was in favor of intalling stop signs on Main Street to encourage traffic to use First Street. Floyd Bridges, business owner in Jamestown Village, asked if the realigned street could accommodate fire trucks. Mr. Gfeller advised that the design meets all City standards. There will be a permanent easement to the City. There will be a loss of about eight parking spaces on "C" Street. The parking in the Plaza area will be for the Gfeller Development. Barbara Cox, "B" Street, was not in favor of the Plaza and asked who would maintain the Plaza, would the parking structure be closed at night, and would there be a nuisance of skateboarding in the Plaza. Mr. Gfeller responded that the maintenance of the Plaza would be their responsib%lity but responsibility for maintenance of the parking structure had not been determined at this time. Interim City Manager Thayer responded that no decision has been made on clos- ing the parking structure at night and that there probably would be some skate boards and bicycles, but certain devices could be installed to discourage that. The area would be patrolled and would have adequate lighting. Margaret Byrd was opposed to the Plaza and thought it would be a waste of money. Another resident thought it was a lovely project but was concerned how stran- gers to the town would find it. Mayor Sharp said that Fullerton (where he is employed) has three redevelopment projects and from what he has observed, this is one of the best deals where a private developer helps a City meet some of its needs. Mr. Thayer pointed out that the Plaza would be used by employees of the Stevens Development, 75 employees just north of this project, and people from the E1 Camino Center and the Jamestown Center. It could also be used for art sales by townspeople and senior citizens. In response to Mrs. Kennedy, Mr. Gfeller said they were looking into a surface that would be easy to walk on in high-heel shoes. Mayor Sharp said that those who had spoken at this workshop were about equally divided for and against the Plaza. This project will be considered at the afternoon Redevelopment Agency meeting on September 8, 1981. The workshop was adjourned at 10:25 p.m. 1. C~T.T. '~O MI~=£~S OF A ~EG~LAR N~TING ~'rz ~ TUSTIN, C~T.TFO~A September 8, 1981 The meeting was called to order by Chairman Sharp at 4:38 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, 300 Centennial Way, Tustin, California. 2 · ~:~OT.T. ~?AT.T. Agency Members Present: Agency Members Absent: Others Present: Edgar, Hoesterey, Kennedy, Saltarelli, Sharp None James G. Rourke, City Attorney william Huston, City Manager Mary E. Wynn, City Clerk Mike Brotemarkle, Comm. Dev. Director Bob Ledendecker, City Engineer Roy Gonzales, Personnel Director Ronald Nault, Finance Director Royleen White, Community Services Director Nancy Miller, Administrative Aide Alan Warren, Senior Planner Approximately 30 in the audience 3. APP~A~ OF MINUTES - August 17, 1981. It was moved by Hoesterey, seconded by Edgar, to approve the minutes of the August 17, 1981, meeting. Carried 5-0. 4. P~OPO~D PLAZA I~~zB ON wC' ~ Jeffrey J. McElderry, 10351 Mira Vista Drive, Santa Aha, representative of the Tustin Chamber of Commerce, said that the Cha/nber of Com~erce did not want to take an active position on the Plaza but requested that traffic counts be taken on "C" Street, "B" Street and Pacific Street (all between Main Steer and 6th~Street) and on 6th Street west of E1 Camino Real prior to the City Council taking a vote on the "C" Street project. He also pointed out the need for a traffic signal and adequate turning accommoda- tions for large trucks at E1 Camino Real and 6th Street. Doug Gfeller of Gfeller Development Company said that they could not wait any longer for approval of the Plaza. Every delay is costing them money. A delay beyond this point would mean that they would have to withdraw their plan and proceed without the Plaza. He said that many of the ques- tions that have been brought up by the public are regarding traffic at other locations than "C" Street and are not relevant to his project. Bill Moses, Editor of Tustin News, spoke in opposition to the closure of "C" Street and agreed with the Chamber of Commerce's request for traffic co~ntSo A. J. Holub, 644 S. "B" Street, with General Mailing Company, requested that the Police Department refrain from issuing tickets for excess loads until a traffic signal is installed at 6th Street and E1 Camino and the parking is restricted at that corner. Kate Kolub, 1392 Cameo, requested that a traffic count be taken prior to the development of the Plaza. She felt "C" Street was important to the commercial traffic. Agnes Bacon, 140 Mountain View Drive, spoke in opposition to the Plaza. She expressed that "C" Street should not be limited in size and if we intend to maintain Old Tustin, the streets should not be eliminated. Vick Madison, Tustin Blacksmith, was opposed to realigning "C" Street and said there was not enough room to put the parking structure and Plaza as designed. Mark Ainslie, whose father owns 530 and 570 C" Street, was in favor of the Plaza and urged immediate approval. Redevelopment Agency Minutes Page 2, 9-8-81 Mr. Gfeller assured that the Plaza could be engineers. We will be maintaining the Plaza. participation in the maintenance of it. built as drawn by his The City will have no Councilwoman Kennedy stated that this is a complex problem and it requires balancing the pros and cons. This is going to impact the public more than help the public. "C" Street has been reduced from 40' to 27'. It will look like it is part of the Stevens Development. The City will lose 8 parking spaces. Stevens Development will benefit by having employees cross a non-busy street. It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Hoesterey, to deny all four staff recommendations concerning the Plaza contained in the Con--unity Development staff report dated September 8, 1981. Councilman Saltarelli spoke in opposition to the motion. We have had good public input and he has observed the traffic and there is very little traffic on "C" Street. It is essential to have a traffic signal at 6th St. and E1 Cemino. We have provided additional access by putting 6th Street through to Newport Avenue. This will be a tremendous asset to the area. Councilman Edgar also opposed the motion. 600 cars per day on "C" Street amount to less than one car per minute. The parking structure will attract people into this area who will utilize the commercial stores in the area. Councilman Hoesterey was in favor of the motion because we do not have a total plan for the Redevelopment area. He saw this as a first step but felt we would have had less opposition if we had a total plan for the area. The motion failed 2-3, Saltarelli, Sharp and Edgar opposed. It was moved by Saltarelli, seconded by Edgar, to approve the Plaza on "C" Street as proposed by Gfeller Development Company and the following recommendations: 1. Appropriate a sum of money not to exceed $50,000 for improvements to circulation and traffic safety in the interest of the downtown area; 2. Direct staff to begin vacation procedures on the affected portion of "C" Street; 3. Distribution of these funds shall be dictated by the agreement between the Redevelopment Agency and Gfeller Development Company; and 4. That traffic counts on "C" Street be carried out at the easliest possible date after street improvements are completed. The motion carried 3-2, Kennedy and Hoesterey opposed. It was moved by Saltarelli, seconded by Kennedy, to direct staff to study funding possibilities and immediate design plans and signalization at E1 Camino and 6th Street. Motion carried 5-0. Mayor Sharp declared a five minutes recess at 5~45 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 5~50 p.m. 5. RESOLUTION NO. RDA 81-10 A Resolution of the Board of Directors of the Tustin Community Redevelopment Agency appointing staff to the Agency. It was moved by Hoesterey, seconded by Edgar, to adopt Resolution No. RDA 81-10. Motion carried 5-0. 6. RDA ANNUAL REPORT It was moved by Hoesterey, seconded by Edgar, to receive and approve the report pending receipt of the audit at which time a resolution of adoption and transmittal will be presented for consideration. Carried 5-0. Redevelopment Agency Minutes Page 3, 9-8-81 It was moved by Kennedy, seconded by Edgar, to limit participation in the parking structure on "C" Street to $600,000. Mayor Sharp expressed that we would be placing the whole project in jeopardy and this would be unfair. Councilman Saltarelli said he could not support the motion either. He did not think there was a need to set a limit. Councilman Edgar withdrew his second to the motion. The motion died for lack of a second. 8. ~l-.K~ ~SII~SS- l~edevelol~e~t ~orkshop It was moved by Edgar, seconded by Kennedy, to set a Redevelopment Agency Workshop for October 26, 1981 at 7:30 p.m. Motion carried 5-0. 9. ADJOuKdM~q~- It was moved by Hoesterey, seconded by Edgar, to adjourn at 5:58 p.m. to the next regular meeting on September 21, 1981. Carried 5-0. ~ F SEC~