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REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
AUGUST 23, 2016
7:00 p.m. CALL TO ORDER: 7:00 p.m.
Given INVOCATION/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Thompson
ROLL CALL: Chair Lumbard
Commissioners Kozak, Mason, Thompson
ABSENT: Commissioner Smith
None. PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Approved the 1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES— JULY 12, 2016
July 12, 2016
Minutes, as RECOMMENDATION:
amended.
That the Planning Commission approve the Minutes of the July 12,
2016 Planning Commission meeting as provided.
Motion: It was moved by Thompson, seconded by Kozak, to approve the Minutes
of the July 12, 2016 Planning Commission meeting, as amended. Motion
carried 4-0-1.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
7:04 p.m. Opened Public Hearing for Item #2.
Lumbard recused himself due to a conflict of interest with this project.
Due to the absence of Chair Pro Tem, it was moved by Kozak, seconded
by Mason, to elect Commissioner Thompson to chair the item.
2. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (CUP) 2016-12 & DESIGN REVIEW
(DR) 2016-15
APPLICANT: Didar Singh
Tustin Field Gas & Food
3017 Edinger Avenue
Tustin, CA 92780
PROPERTY OWNER: Dr. Harvinder Sahota, MD
N.E. Enterprises
9810 Park Street
Bellflower, CA 90706
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LOCATION: 3017 Edinger Avenue
REQUEST:
A CUP to authorize joint-use parking to accommodate service
station, carwash and retail store uses and a DR to authorize the
installation of vacuum units.
ENVIRONMENTAL:
This project is categorically exempt (Class 1) pursuant to Section
15301 of the California Environmental Quality Act.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 4317
approving CUP 2016-12 authorizing joint-use parking to
accommodate service station, carwash and retail store uses, and
approving DR 2016-15 authorizing the installation of three (3)
vacuum units on a property located at 3017 Edinger Avenue.
Hutter Presentation given.
Binsack Binsack informed the Commission of the supplemental item presented at
the dais for Resolution No. 4317, which resulted from questions
discussed with a Commissioner prior to the Planning Commission
meeting. She stated that staff is recommending additional revised
language to Condition 1.8 related to the payment of fees. Binsack also
stated that this approval would require a positive vote by all three (3)
members of the Commission.
Thompson Thompson mentioned the supplemental items presented at the dais for
Condition 2.5, new addition of Condition 2.7, as well as a revision to
Condition 3.1. He also noted a minor correction to one (1) word within
Condition 2.5.
7:08 p.m. Public Comments Opened.
Ms. Cecilia de Heras, Action Property Management, representing
Jamboree Plaza Owners Association, voiced her concerns which
generally included: current parking issue in Jamboree Plaza; the car
wash business currently has four (4) spaces allotted within the common
parking area, which is part of their CC&R's; and that the property
management will be conducting a parking survey soon to see about
creating more parking spaces.
Mr. Peter Buffa, representing the applicant, Danny Singh, responded to
Ms. De Heras concerns and stated that the current parking is not
accurate. He also mentioned the parking spaces where the vacuums are
located are not just for vacuums and that anyone can park in those
spaces. Mr. Buffa discussed the parking study completed by Michael
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Baker Company and stated there are no parking issues and that since
the project opened in 2012, there have been no complaints of using other
businesses parking spaces. He then shared a video with the
Commission showing the parking and circulation, as well as spaces at the
gas pumps being used as parking spaces. Mr. Buffa stated that the
vacuums were in place for three (3) years before receiving a violation.
Mr. Buffa then asked that Condition 3.1 (a) related to suspending the use
of vacuum stations until permit and final inspection are obtained, be
eliminated.
Kozak For clarification, Kozak asked Mr. Buffa if a building permit was ever
obtained for the existing vacuum cleaning stations.
Per Mr. Buffa, there was no discretion for a building permit when the
vacuum stations were installed three (3) years earlier therefore; the
existing vacuum cleaning stations do not have a building permit.
Mason Mason asked Mr. Buffa if he was aware that the vacuum stations were
not part of the original CUP submittal in 2015. She also asked if a CUP
was provided at the time of purchase in 2012 as well as what was
perm itted and what was not.
Per Mr. Buffa, there was a CUP for the car wash and the schematics
showed where the vacuum stations would be. He also mentioned that
the applicant did not understand that there could not be dedicated parking
spaces just for the vacuum stations; however, there was no
documentation to confirm that statement.
Mason Mason asked for further clarification on the four (4) additional parking
spaces being part of the CC&R's previously mentioned.
Mr. Buffa did not know if the four (4) additional parking spaces were part
of the CC&R's. He stated that the 2009 CUP application had discretion of
using four(4) parking spaces in the common parking area.
Thompson In response to Mason's statements, Thompson clarified that there is no
change to the parking inventory, per the staff report. He further explained
that the current property has eleven (11) on-site parking spaces and four
(4) off-site parking spaces that are part of the association, which would
not be changing.
7:31 p.m. Public Comments Closed.
Mason Mason requested that, for the record, staff state what the
revisions/changes to the Conditions of Approval were.
Binsack In response to Mason's request, Binsack stated the following
recommendations, in general: amendments to Condition 1.8, 2.57 3.1
and addition of Condition 2.7; staff could suggest that the building permit
timeframe be modified; however, this is an appealable item (10 days) to
the City Council which would make it difficult to modify if the applicant
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was issued a building permit and the City Council took another action;
and the original DR and CUP did not include the vacuum stations that
were installed, therefore no building permit as well as the current vacuum
stations at the carwash; and staff's concern of the vacuum stations being
improperly installed with respect to their use.
Thompson Thompson referred to Condition 3.1 and if the item were appealed, would
fifteen (15) days be reasonable for the applicant to obtain a building
permit. He also asked if staff would be able to modify and report
differently to the City Council. Thompson asked if the condition could be
modified with regards to the immediate suspension of the vacuum use
and what staff would find reasonable as far as timeframe.
Binsack Per Binsack, staff could receive plans, along with a letter of risk, during
the appeal period and issue a permit on the eleventh (11th) day, as long
as there is no appeal. She was not sure if staff could say a non-permitted
electrical improvement is acceptable to use without staff inspecting the
vacuum stations.
Kozak Kozak commended Binsack for clarifying the matter sufficiently. He
inquired on the original vacuum units ever receiving a review and
approval of a building permit. Kozak stated Condition 3.1 is important for
public safety and was concerned that the vacuum stations were installed
without review and approval from the City in order to meet City standards.
Mason Mason inquired on the signage placed on the vacuums (FREE
VACUUM). She asked if the intent was to alleviate parking.
Thompson In response to Mason's statement, Thompson stated that staff needs to
review the signage and it is not within the Commission's purview to
regulate signage.
Bobak Bobak asked the Commission if she could read the revised Condition 1.8,
as amended, into the record since it was not typed up for the Commission
and to ensure the language is clear and that there were no questions, in
the event there is an issue.
Motion: It was moved by Thompson to adopt Resolution No. 4317, as amended,
seconded by Kozak. Lumbard abstained from the vote. Motion carried 3-
0-2.
3. DESIGN REVIEW (DR) 2016-011
APPLICANT: Zahra Khalafi
Bublyz Cafe
2505 EI Camino Real
Tustin, CA 92782
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PROPERTY OWNER: FGHK Ltd.
750 Old Hickory Blvd.
Two Brentwood Commons, 150
Brentwood, TN 37027
LOCATION: 2505 EI Camino Real
REQUEST:
To authorize the establishment of a 7,231 square foot outdoor
restaurant seating area in conjunction with an existing restaurant
located at 2505 EI Camino Real.
ENVIRONMENTAL:
This project is categorically exempt (Class 3) pursuant to Section
15303 of the California Environmental Quality Act.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 4318 approving
DR 2016-011 to authorize the establishment of a 7,231 square foot
outdoor restaurant seating area in conjunction with an existing
restaurant located at 2505 EI Camino Real.
Reekstin Presentation given.
Binsack Binsack stated that staff made recommendations to Condition 1.6 and
Condition 2.10 to be amended further and she read the amendments into
the record.
7:55 p.m. Opened Public Hearing for Item #3.
The public that spoke in favor of the item generally made the following
favorable comments: desirable outdoor seating; family dining;
international food; and that it is a good use for the neighborhood.
The public that spoke not in favor of the item generally stated the
following concerns: noise pollution; hours of operation; loud music;
allowance of smoking and alcohol; and the impact it would have in the
neighborhood.
Reekstin Reekstin's response to comments previously made generally included:
alcohol will not be served on the patio; conditions in the resolution with
regards to alcohol for future business owners who want to serve alcohol
which is an outright permitted use and no CUP is required in conjunction
with a bonafide restaurant; a condition with regards to no amplified music
or live entertainment and compliance with the City's Noise Ordinance;
and smoking is allowed by California Law within an outdoor seating area
unless the restaurant owner prohibits smoking.
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Mr. Matt Ahmad, a representative for the applicant, made favorable
comments for Reekstin and he also stated the following in general: any
noise coming from the outdoor seating would be muffled by the walls;
requested Condition 2.2 related to removal of the existing masonry wall
be removed; Bublyz will abide by the City's Noise Ordinance; there will
not be amplified music; the applicant would never request to serve
alcohol; requested that the applicant not be required to remove the walls
or make large openings to the walls; match occupancy inside/outside;
and he presented a list of signatures from the local residents, in favor of
the project.
Ms. Zahra Khalafi, applicant, in general, stated the following: removing
the wall would diminish the property value; the wall is a noise buffer;
occupancy inside/outside; patio; alcohol not being served; low music; no
live music; and she provided a short video of a resident that could not be
in attendance but who was in favor of the project.
8:27 p.m. Public Hearing Closed.
Thompson Thompson stated the following in general: wall does not fit the
architectural design appropriate; suggested modifying the existing wall;
Condition 2.2 "substantially remove" with reference to the wrought iron;
reuse of the block wall; asked staff to clarify appropriate interpretation of
that term; and sound attenuation.
Lumbard Lumbard asked staff to address Condition 3.7 with instruction on
interpreting the language. He wanted to avoid approving something that
is untenable. Lumbard informed the Commission that they need to either
approve or continue the item in order to direct staff to continue working
with the applicant on alternative methods.
Binsack Binsack stated that staff's desire to modify Condition 3.7 was to allow
flexibility to give staff the opportunity to work with the applicant to look at
what could be considered and in the event an agreement could not be
made, then the item would be brought back to the Commission for
consideration.
Bobak Bobak said staff intended Condition 3.7 would supersede Condition 2.2
which has to be consistent with the revised Condition 3.7 otherwise there
would be conflicting conditions in the resolution. She suggested the
Commission consider removing Condition 2.2.
Mason Mason asked for clarification with regards to "substantially un-enclosed".
Bobak Bobak's response to Mason's question generally included: the
Commission may provide staff direction on what the Commission thinks
substantially un-enclosed means because staff may have a different
understanding of that term than the Commission (i.e. does the masonry
wall come down orjust the wrought iron?).
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Lumbard Lumbard's concern is that the wall has not stopped the noise from
bothering the neighbors.
Mason Mason was in support of Thompson's statement previously made. The
intent should be to create an environment that is amenable to both the
commercial and residential areas.
Kozak Kozak voiced his concern with Condition 3.7. He did not want to read
"substantially unenclosed" because to him that means, "no covering".
Kozak suggested adding "shall not be covered". He also suggested
revising Condition 2.17 which would remove the ability of obtaining a "live
entertainment permit". Kozak stated that If revising Condition 3.7 causes
a legal issue, then he would withdraw his suggestion.
Bobak Bobak suggested that if it is the consensus of the Commission, simply
state, "no live entertainment is permitted".
Binsack Binsack stated some forms of live entertainment are exempt and that
anything over and above an individual or a duo are non-exempt.
Kozak Kozak stated he is now satisfied with addressing the noise issue.
Lumbard The Commission is willing to support a slight modification to the wall to
address noise and the impact to the surrounding neighborhood.
Mason Mason reminded that there may be limitations based on the landlord.
Lumbard Lumbard further stated that the Commission wants an amenable solution
that can actually happen. As per the applicant's request on the increase
of occupancy on the patio (Condition 2.1), Lumbard is of the opinion to
start with the recommendation first, then if successful, the applicant could
request to modify the approved DR (per Bobak).
Reekstin Reekstin noted that Condition 2.1 does allow the applicant to request an
increase in the number of seats subject to the Community Development
Director's approval.
Lumbard Lumbard reiterated that the Commission is proposing Condition 2.2 be
removed.
Motion: It was recommended by Lumbard to approve Resolution No. 4318, as
amended, seconded by Mason. Motion carried 4-0-1.
None REGULAR BUSINESS
STAFF CONCERNS:
Binsack Binsack informed the Commission of the upcoming Planning Officials
Forum in September.
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COMMISSION CONCERNS:
Mason Nothing to report.
Thompson Thompson attended the following:
7/13: USC Commercial Real Estate Program
7/15: Ethics Training
7/18: Neighborhood Meeting —420 W. 6t" Street
8/2: Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting
8/2: Opening of the La Pada Avenue in South Orange County
8/18: Urban Land Institute
Thompson thanked staff for the notes on the Red Hill Corridor Study
Workshop. He congratulated Kozak for being nominated to the
Successor Agency. Kozak requested he be excused for October 11 and
October 25 since he will be out of town for training.
Kozak Kozak thanked staff for their hard work on the agenda items and as well
as the Red Hill Corridor Study Workshop comments. Kozak attended the
final concerts in the Park and commended Parks & Recreation. He
attended OCTA Citizens Advisory Board Committee Meeting on August
2, 2016.
Lumbard Lumbard attended the following:
7/21: Red Hill Corridor Workshop
7/28: Veterans Housing Ribbon Cutting
7/29: OC Animal Shelter Groundbreaking
8/10: Concerts in the Park
8/14: Marconi Auto Museum Open House
8/19: Broadway in the Park— "Beauty & the Beast"
Lumbard congratulated Luke Thompson, who will be attending Northern
Arizona State University to play football. He also congratulated Rusty
Kozak for attending Chapman University Law School to obtain his
graduate degree.
8:56 p.m. ADJOURNMENT:
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is scheduled for
Tuesday, September 13, 2016, at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chamber at
300 Centennial Way.
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