HomeMy WebLinkAbout01 PC Minutes 12-08-03ITEM #1
MINUTES
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING -- 7:00 P.M.
7:00 p.m.
Given
Nielsen absent
Staff present
None
Approved
Adopted Resolution
No. 3887
DECEMBER 8, 2003
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Doug Holland, Assistant City Attorney
Karen Peterson, Senior Planner
Matt West, Associate Planner
EIoise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - NOVEMBER 10, 2003,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
It was moved by Pontious, second by Amante, to approve the
consent Calendar. Motion carried 4-0
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 03-021 AND DESIGN
REVIEW 03-022 REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO
REMOVE AN EXISTING 599 SQUARE FOOT TWO-CAR
GARAGE AND REPLACE IT WITH A 1,405 SQUARE
FOOT ACCESSORY BUILDING WITH A 620 SQUARE
FOOT TWO-CAR GARAGE CONTAINING TWO (2)
VEHICLE PARKING SPACES, A 225 SQUARE FOOT
LAUNDRY ROOM AND BATHROOM ON THE FIRST
FLOOR AND A 560 SQUARE FOOT SECOND STORY
INCLUDING TWO (2) GUEST ROOMS, A READING
ROOM, AND A BATHROOM. THIS PROJECT IS
LOCATED AT 455 SOUTH PACIFIC STREET IN THE
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (R-l) ZONING
DISTRICT.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use
Permit 02-021 and Design Review 03-022 by adopting
Resolution No. 3887.
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7:01 p.m.
Holland
Menard
Holland
Menard
West
Pontious
Peterson
Jennings
Peterson
Amante
West
Jennings
Maw Susan
McCance, 455
Pacific Street
Pontious
The Public Hearing opened.
Stated it was his understanding that one of the members of the
Planning Commission may have a potential issue and might wish
to step down; this would be the appropriate time for the
Commissioner to indicate why there is a conflict and to step
down from the dais.
Indicated that his residence is within 500 feet of the site.
Stated that, in order to avoid any appearance of a potential
conflict, it was his understanding that Commissioner Menard
wished to recuse himself and step down from the dais.
Stated that was correct and left the dais.
Presented the staff report.
Expressed concern that adding a second stow next to a single
stow might infringe upon the privacy of the neighbors; and,
asked if it would be possible to restrict or eliminate the windows
on the north elevation.
Stated it was within the Commission's latitude to recommend
changes to the aesthetics, but one or more of the windows might
be required for light and ventilation under the Uniform Building
Code; and, suggested a condition could be added to require
elimination of windows, if feasible.
Asked how far back the windows would be compared to the
single stow house next door.
Suggested the applicant might be better able to answer that
question.
Asked what the setback from the property would be for the north
elevation.
Stated the setback would be five feet.
Invited the applicant to the lectern.
Noted the house next door is a two stow structure set forward on
the lot; and, added that she had confirmed with those neighbors
that they are comfortable with the windows and this addition to
her home.
Withdrew her concerns.
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7:10 p.m. The Public Hearing closed.
Jennings
Menard
Adopted Resolution
No. 3903
West
Jennings
Holland
Greg Grover,
1410 N. Daly St.,
Anaheim, Donco &
Sons (for Mobil)
Menard
West
Stated that this project looks as though it will fit well into Old
Town.
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Amante, to adopt
Resolution No. 3902. Motion carried 3-0.
Returned to the dais.
REGULAR BUSINESS
SIGN CODE EXCEPTION 03-001 REQUESTING A
MODIFICATION TO AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING
POLE SIGN AT 13872 RED HILL AVENUE IN THE
CENTRAL COMMERCIAL (C-2) ZONING DISTRICT.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 3903
denying Sign Code Exception 03-001.
Presented the staff report.
Stated that the findings support the denial of this application.
Suggested the Commission should receive any testimony that the
property owner or tenant may wish to provide.
Stated that special circumstances exist since the property right
allows for the legally existing nonconforming sign; the sign has a
legal right to remain even though it does not conform with current
sign standards; staff's findings are primarily based on the
nonconforming aspects of this sign; these findings fail to recognize
the special circumstance involved which is the basis of the
exception request; allowing the replacement of this sign will not
extend the service life of this nonconforming sign; Mobil will
maintain whatever sign is there for as long as the legal right exists;
if the exception were allowed, Mobil would also maintain that sign
for a long as the legal right exists; the exception would not alter the
service life but will be equivalent; the existing sign will remain; the
option is to have it remain at its current size or, by approving the
sign code exception, at a significantly smaller size.
Asked what the appropriate size would be if the site were allowed
to have a freeway sign.
Responded that such a sign could be 24 feet high and 50 square
feet in sign area.
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Pontious
West
Peterson reported
Menard
Holland
Jennings
Holland
Amante
Holland
Stated that she had been involved in going through the Sign Code
many times over the years and pole signs have always been
something that both the Planning Commission and City Council felt
strongly should be eliminated at every possibility; the precedent-
setting of this application, regardless of any other considerations,
would not be a good idea; indicated she would not be comfortable
with future requests if this one were granted; asked that the
Commission stand firm in its direction; and, stated that she would
vote to deny this request.
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Menard to adopt
Resolution No. 3903, denying Sign Code Exception 03-001.
Noted that the applicant had been informed regarding the seven-
day appeal period.
STAFF CONCERNS
REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE NOVEMBER 17
AND DECEMBER 1,2003, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
The City Council approved the updated grading ordinance and the
water quality ordinance.
The City Council approved the Tustin Block development; the
Mayor asked that staff bring forward a parking ordinance to
address the Planning Commission's concerns.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Asked if it would be possible to put in place a signage ordinance,
similar to what the City of Anaheim adopted for the area around
Disneyland, eliminating Tustin's nonconforming freeway signs.
Answered in the affirmative; and, stated an amortization ordinance
requires that nonconforming uses are amortized over a period of
time.
Asked if such an ordinance would cover all nonconforming signs.
Indicated an ordinance could apply to any nonconforming use or
be limited to a specific class.
Asked about the issue of due process.
Stated a rational basis could be established to identify a particular
group.
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Amante
Peterson
Menard
Amante
Pontious
Peterson
Jennings
Noted the risk of allowing a nonconforming sign to be replaced by
a less nonconforming use would open the floodgates for future
agenda items regarding signs; and, requested that this issue be
explored in the upcoming workshops on the Zoning Code.
Indicated that she recalled the City of Anaheim participated
financially in the sign remodel, and staff could request information
regarding their ordinance from Anaheim for the Planning
Commission's reference.
Stated there is graffiti on the Do Not Enter sign at the Chevron
station on Irvine Boulevard and on the apartment complex behind
the Petco shopping center on El Camino Real.
Noted the tree lighting ceremony was very nice.
Offered his condolences to Commissioner Pontious in the loss of
her mother.
Congratulated Mayor Worley Hagen on the completion of her
fourth year as mayor; and, offered further congratulations to Mayor
Tony Kawashima and Mayor Pro Tem Lou Bone.
Wished everyone a Merry Christmas.
Stated the LA Fitness on Newport Avenue has a tent-like structure
on which banner signs have been hanging; and, asked staff to
check to see if those signs are approved.
Noted she also enjoyed the tree lighting ceremony.
Asked if a Planning Commission meeting will take place December
22nd.
Answered in the affirmative.
Explained that she missed the tree lighting ceremony because she
was out of town.
Indicated she enjoyed the Planning Officials' Forum.
Stated that Golden State Insurance at 520 West First Street still
has a broken sign.
Requested that the meeting be adjourned in memory of Eileen
Pontious, Commissioner Pontious' mother.
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7:28 p.m. ADJOURNMENT
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is
scheduled for Monday, December 22, 2003, at 7:00 p.m. in the
Council Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
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