HomeMy WebLinkAbout01 PC Minutes 6-28-04
7:01 p.m.
Given
Menard absent
Staff present
None
Approved
Adopted Resolution 3.
No. 3918,as
amended
Amante
ITEM #1
MINUTES
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING - 7:00 P.M.
JUNE 28, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Elizabeth A. Binsack, Community Development Director
Doug Holland, Assistant City Attorney
Chad Ortlieb, Associate Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
1.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JUNE 14, 2004, PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING.
STAFF'S MEMORANDUM TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSIONERS RECAPITULATING THE PLANNING
COMMISSION'S DIRECTION ON OFFICE USE
PROVISIONS IN OLD TOWN TUSTIN.
2.
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Nielsen, to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 04-013 REQUESTING THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF A MASTER SIGN PROGRAM FOR
THE GATEWAY VILLAGE COMMERCIAL CENTER
WHICH IS LOCATED ON CURRENTLY VACANT
PROPERTY AT 1621 EDINGER AVENUE AT THE
NORTHEAST CORNER OF EDINGER AND RED HILL
AVENUES. THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE
INDUSTRIAL (M) ZONING DISTRICT.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use
Permit 04-013 by adopting Resolution No. 3918.
Stated he had a conflict of interest regarding this property and
excused himself from the hearing; Chairperson Pro Tem Pontious
took the gavel.
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7:03 p.m.
Ortlieb
Nielsen
Ortlieb
Floyd
Director
Pontious
Connie O'Connor,
representing
Ultrasigns
7:20 p.m.
Nielsen
Pontious
Ortlieb
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report.
Asked for clarification regarding signage on the rear of Building A.
Responded that non-illuminated secondary signs would be
allowed.
Asked why the applicant needs an eight foot sign.
Answered that the sign face proposed for the monument sign is
within the requirements of the Tustin Sign Code; the applicant
requested the sign because of the center's configuration; the
architectural embellishments create a more attractive sign that
staff is more inclined to support than a basic large, tall sign.
Suggested that, if the self-storage were developed separately, a
third sign would have been included legally and not have required
any action on the part of the Planning Commission; perhaps the
Findings should be modified to include information that the self-
storage could have been developed separately, making this
approval as unique as possible to avoid complications with future
applicants; the unique shape and size of the property makes the
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Chairperson Pro Tem Pontious asked the applicant's
representative if she was in agreement with everything that had
been presented.
Answered that the applicant worked very hard with staff to
develop an acceptable project; noted that everything along
Edinger will be covered with landscaping, making the extra
signage necessary; and, thanked staff and the Commission for
their support and help.
The Public Hearing closed.
Agreed that the property is unique; however, a buffer is needed
for the residents of Tustin Meadows; signage should be
eliminated on the north-facing back walls; the monument sign on
Red Hill is not necessary; the commercial and retail areas around
this site have muted signage.
Indicated the vegetation proposed behind the building might
preclude signage.
Reiterated that only non-illuminated, secondary signage is being
proposed for that wall.
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Nielsen
Director
Nielsen
Pontious
Floyd
Nielsen
Director
Amante
Ortlieb presented
Pontious
Stated that any signage on that wall will be unsightly for the
residents of Tustin Meadows.
Indicated there would be limited visibility from Red Hill; and,
stated this is a discretionary action which the Planning
Commission has the ability to modify.
Restated his request that the wall signage and second monument
sign be eliminated.
Stated she would support the elimination of the wall signage but
would not support the elimination of the additional monument sign
because, as stated earlier, three monuments would be allowed if
the property were developed separately.
Agreed with Chairperson Pro Tem Pontious.
Stated his primary concern was for the residents of Tustin
Meadows not being exposed to unnecessary signage while
entering their tract.
Provided the language modifying the resolution as follows:
Add Finding 13 to read: "Due to the unique shape and
configuration of the property and the number of uses, the granting
of additional signage will not grant a special privilege that other
properties under similar zoning designations enjoy."
Modify Condition 2.1 by adding another bullet point as follows:
"The signage along the northerly elevation of Building A shall be
eliminated."
It was moved by Floyd, seconded by Pontious, to adopt
Resolution No. 3918, as amended. Motion carried 2-1.
Returned to the dais.
REGULAR BUSINESS
4.
Project Summary.
The summary focused on the status of projects that the Planning
Commission, Zoning Administrator, or Community Development
Director approved, major improvement projects, and other items
of interest.
Asked if Heritage Plaza appears to be moving forward
expeditiously.
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Director
Answered in the affirmative.
Floyd
Asked if there is any information regarding what businesses will be
going in at the former Barn site (tonight's item).
Ortlieb
Responded that staff has no such information at this time.
Nielsen
Asked what business is at 14141 Red Hill Avenue.
Pontious
Suggested that business would be the Mexican restaurant at the
corner by Stater Bros.
Floyd
Asked if the Tustin Ranch golf course expansion involves the
banquet facility.
Ortlieb
Answered in the affirmative.
Amante
Asked if there is any update regarding how long Bedrosian's
banner sign will exist.
Director
Indicated that staff would follow up on that question.
Floyd
Asked if the water feature at Pioneer Road Park is now up and
running.
Pontious
Stated that the Tustin News reported that feature is operational.
Amante
Asked where the City is regarding the Red Hill Avenue widening
project.
Staff
Indicated the City has submitted its application to Caltrans, but the
application was not approved; the application was recently
resubmitted to address the prior concerns of Caltrans.
Amante
Expressed interest in whether or not this involves a funding problem
or a project glitch; and, asked if staff could investigate.
Director
Stated staff will do so and report back to the Commission.
Amante
Stated it would be good to get that project going during the
summertime when students will not be jeopardized.
Nielsen
Asked if there was coordination with the Orange County Sanitation
District and Public Works regarding the sewer line improvements
along Newport Avenue and EI Camino Real and whether or not the
recent street improvements will now be torn up.
Ortlieb
Indicated staff would need to get that information from the Public
Works Department and provide it on the next summary report.
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Nielsen
Asked if planning areas are numbered based on the developers
who own them rather than sequentially.
Indicated the numbering follows the Specific Plan, which identifies
the planning areas for the Legacy.
Asked if those numbers were pre-designated.
Answered in the affirmative.
Noted these updates are useful in keeping the Commission
refreshed on the items that have come before them, and it is
always good to see the different projects that are going on in the
City.
Asked what is happening with the Tustin Auto Center signage.
Indicated some dealers have come forward to take advantage of
the modified sign program.
Stated he was more interested in the LCD signage.
Answered that staff is not sure that will be happening; that would be
a decision of the Auto Center dealerships.
Asked if the same is true for the entry monument signs.
Indicated that is very likely.
STAFF CONCERNS
5.
REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE JUNE 21, 2004,
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
The City Council held a budget workshop on June 21, 2004; the
budget has been set for public hearing on July 6, 2004; the seven-
year Capital Improvement Program will be a part of that budget;
staff will provide the Planning Commission with a copy and invite
Tim Serlet to come before the Commission with a presentation of
the major projects.
Agreed that such a presentation would be very helpful.
Added that future updates on those nights when the Planning
Commission has a light agenda will be appreciated.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Thanked staff for the good job on tonight's items.
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Nielsen continued
Floyd
Pontious
Amante
7:55 p.m.
Encouraged everyone to attend the Fourth of July fireworks
extravaganza at Tustin High School.
Noted it is always nice to see how the City is progressing,
especially at Tustin Legacy.
Thanked staff for their work on tonight's items.
Added her thanks to the staff for their hard work; and, agreed with
Chairman Amante that future updates will be helpful and welcome.
Noted there will be a Fourth of July parade at Tustin Meadows and
a 70s disco boogie band later at the high school stadium; and,
encouraged everyone to have a good time celebrating America's
birthday.
ADJOURNMENT
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is scheduled
for Monday, July 12, 2004, at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chamber at
300 Centennial Way.
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