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Summary of Public Comments
• Increased traffic
• Parking already bad along Redhill
• Reduced parking is a bad idea
• All streets around will be like parking lot
• Area already too crowded
• Density too high
• 4-5 stories too high
• Impacts to those who live in the area
• Only developers will benefit from this
• Developers money will speak louder than residents
• Developers should follow current zoning
• Tustin will become Costa Mesa and Irvine
• Redhill needs facelift
• Development proposed is not compatible with surroundings
• Stack of homes without affordable housing
• Not a very thought out plans
• Too big for the area
City and developers will get revenues at the expense of current residents
• Not a good idea
• Pre -Tustin Legacy, Tustin has so much more character
• Rising housing costs
• 325,000 sqft of commercial and 1,000 plus people in 4-5 stories is a lot!
• Tustin fireworks will no longer be provided
• Overbuilding and turning Tustin into overpopulated traffic nightmare
• Devastating to beautiful community
• Overcrowding
• Change of Tustin character
• Overburden of sewer and power grid
• Big Lots area definitely needs to be redone
• Need to improve cell ad Wi-Fi
• Mess up the City by adding more housing, less parking and more traffic
• City needs to provide incentives and accessibility to entice developments
• Tearing downs buildings and build housing is just wrong
• So much development and no place to park
• The only positive is that it would clean up the "hotel"
• This will only displace long term residents
• Council only listen to developers not residents
• City is reacting not planning
Demkowicz, Erica
From: Sonia Carrera-Vanek <
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 9:54 AM
To: Demkowicz, Erica
Subject: Concern on Traffic and parking!
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Flagged
I have an office in Prospect and City is nice and growing and I understand the success and revenue grow for Tustin (I Like
all) but Parking and traffic is very hard in old Tustin because the large amount of cars cutting main streets is large and
restaurant opening with not parking! In EI Camino Real is a problem. Please how is the city dealing with the impact in
old town?
Sonia Carrera-Vanek
Westin Financial Corporation
Tustin, Ca. 92780
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Demkowicz, Erica
From: Susan Eilenberg <
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:18 AM
To: Demkowicz, Erica; 'Adam Foster'; 'ajernegan'; 'Alice Houseworth'; 'america'; 'andrea';
'apine'; 'Austin Lumbard'; 'bluemoon'; 'bluepacific'; 'Bob Jarrad'; 'Brad Losey'; 'Bruce
Heathcote'; 'cabtguy'; 'christy'; 'chukbacca'; 'Claudia Quezada'; 'cristina'; 'cshucker'; 'clan';
'Dan Gwaltney'; 'Dat Nyugen'; 'David Larson'; 'dmc26'; 'Don Sodaro'; 'donna'; 'Donna';
'drkvarnstrom'; 'edelpizzo'; 'frank'; 'frankb'; 'gcsutd'; 'greg'; 'Howard Abel'; 'i post'; 'ithink';
'James Armistead'; 'Jenx'; 'Jerry Amante '; 'Jessie'; 'Jim Burke'; johnm'; Johnson, Eric;
Jojo'; 'Jomurillo'; 'Jon & Marty Peters'; Joseph'; 'Jruano'; 'Julia'; 'kit'; 'kymberly'; 'lara';
'last'; 'laura'; 'mdelumba'; 'mercedes'; 'mhtaylor'; 'Michael Hubman'; 'Mick Meldrum';
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'perez'; 'polly'; 'psapetto'; 'ruth'; Saldivar, Krys; 'smedina'; 'Steve Silverstein '; Swiontek,
Ryan; 'tbone'; 'Tom O'Meara'; 'trist'; 'will'; 'wilson'; 'wright'
Subject: RE: RE; Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Flagged
Thank you, Erica.
I am interested in whether there will be a 5 story parking structure built facing Tustin High School's stadium. If there is,
then I am wondering if there will be any safety measures to prevent any unguarded access to endanger spectators in the
stadium.
Ours is a rare High School built right near the freeway for easy escape access. Our sector has had shootings (e.g. years
ago at Taco Bell where no one was hurt, but our at -that -time 13 year old son witnessed it) and an FBI search (including
helicopter and TV reporters) for a walking man with a rifle, who they caught.
Of course, I am hoping there will never be a need for such safety measures but I am sure the city wants measures in
place. Parking levels with walls blocking the direction of the high school would be a suggested fix, along with trees
blocking any open parts of the parking structure.
Regards,
Susan Eilenberg
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Subject: RE; Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
Attached is the public hearing notice for the upcoming City Council hearing on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 regarding the
Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan.
If you should have any questions, please contact Erica H. Demkowicz at (714) 573-3127 or or
Scott Reekstin at (714) 573-3016 or
Erica H. Demkowicz, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Tustin
Community Development Department
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
(714) 573-3127
Demkowicz, Erica
From:
Demkowicz, Erica
Sent:
Friday, October 5, 2018 12:18 PM
To:
'Donald Sodaro'
Subject:
RE: I can't download it
Don,
Yes, it may be an issue with your individual computer. We have just mailed hard copies of the public hearing notice to
approximately 3,200 property owners and tenants within and surrounding the Specific Plan area. If you received a
notice in the past through the mail, then you will receive a hard copy in a day or two. If you did not and would like to
receive one, I am happy to mail one to you. We also have copies of the public hearing notices at the front Planning
counter if you'd like to stop by and pick one up.
Regards,
Erica H. Demkowicz, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Tustin
Community Development Department
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
(714) 573-3127
From: Donald Sodaro [mailto:
Sent: Friday, October 5, 201811:42 AM
To: Demkowicz, Erica <
Subject: Re: I can't download it
I click on it and a question comes up "download it?" and I say us and then nothing happens.
Sorry it is probably me.
Don Sodaro
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From: Demkowicz, Erica <
To: Donald Sodaro <
Cc: Reekstin, Scott <
Sent: Fri, Oct 5, 2018 11:14 am
Subject: RE: I can't download it
Hello Don,
You should be able to simply click in the attachment to open the notice. I have attached it again for your use.
Regards,
Erica H. Demkowicz, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Tustin
Community Development Department
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
(714) 573-3127
From: Donald Sodaro [
Sent: Friday, October 5, 201810:40 AM
To: Demkowicz, Erica <
Subject: I can't download it
Is there some trick to downloading the notice?
Don Sodaro
Demkowicz, Erica
From: Demkowicz, Erica
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 4:58 PM
To: 'Bruce Heathcote'
Cc: Tom O'Meara; Jerry Amante; Jenson,
Kathy; Reekstin, Scott; Willkom, Justina; Binsack, Elizabeth
Subject: RE: RE; Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
The errata will be an attachment to the City Council staff report and I can forward it to you with the report, once
finalized.
Erica H. Demkowicz, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Tustin
Community Development Department
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
(714) 573-3127
From: Bruce Heathcote[mailto:
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 3:41 PM
To: Demkowicz, Erica <
Cc: Tom O'Meara < ; Jerry Amante
< ; Jenson, Kathy < ;
Reekstin, Scott < ; Willkom, Justina < ; Binsack, Elizabeth
<
Subject: RE: RE; Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
Erica,
What happened to the attached errata that was supposedly part of the Commission's recommendation?
Bruce Heathcote
Senior Vice President
Lee & Associates I Irvine
LEE
,ASSOCIATES
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE SFRViCES
Heathcote Group
License ID 904560
9838 Research Drive
Irvine, CA 92618
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No warranty or representation is made to the accuracy of the foregoing information. Terms of sale or lease and availability are subject to change or
withdrawal without notice.
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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 3:21 PM
To: Bruce Heathcote <
Cc: Tom O'Meara < ; Jerry Amante
< Jenson, Kathy <
Reekstin, Scott < ; Willkom, Justina < ; Binsack, Elizabeth
<
Subject: RE: RE; Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
Bruce,
The version of the RHASP (dated July 2018) that the City Council will be considering is the same version that the Planning
Commission considered on August 14, 2018 and September 25, 2018, except that several errata are proposed for the
Council's consideration. No revised or edited version of the RHASP has been produced as the Planning Commission's
recommended actions have not been confirmed by the City Council. If and when the City Council agrees with the
Planning Commission recommendation and/or makes any other changes to the document, then the Specific Plan will be
edited accordingly with the errata.
The public hearing notice that you received contains the errata changes that the Planning Commission has
recommended. The Staff's recommendation is the same as the Planning Commission's recommendation to the City
Council. The discussion regarding casualty and non -conforming structures did not result in the need for any errata to
the Plan. The Tustin City Code would apply if a building was destroyed by an Act of God or if changes are desired to a
legal, non -conforming building. Newly constructed buildings would need to meet the development standards in the
RHASP, but there is no requirement that all buildings be constructed along the frontage of Red Hill Avenue. The
Commission acknowledged the concerns expressed on this by referencing them in their recommendation for
consideration by the City Council.
As recommended by the Planning Commission, a parking management plan would be required in conjunction with all
mixed use projects as part of the Residential Allocation Reservation (RAR) process. The requirement would not apply to
shopping centers.
Once the staff report is completed and finalized, by the end of next week, I will e-mail you a copy for your reference and
use (and others on this e-mail, if desired). The report and agenda will also be posted on the City's website, which is
standard practice, next week.
Regards,
Erica H. Demkowicz, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Tustin
Community Development Department
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
(714) 573-3127
From: Bruce Heathcote [
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 5:54 PM
To: Demkowicz, Erica <
; Jenson, Kathy <
Subject: RE: RE; Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
Erica,
What happened to the errata changes we negotiated... are they merely "suggestions to the council"? What are the
specifics of the parking? Does it only apply to the residential component?
Is there an update Draft of the Specific Plan. What version is the city council considering?
Can you provide more specifics on the staff "Recommendations"?
Bruce Heathcote
Senior Vice President
Lee & Associates I Irvine
LEE &
ASSOCIATES
TES
COMMERCIAL, REAL ESTATV SIERVICFS
Heathcote Group
License ID 904560
9838 Research Drive
Irvine, CA 92618
No warranty or representation is made to the accuracy of the foregoing information. Terms of sale or lease and availability are subject to change or
withdrawal without notice.
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Subject: RE; Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
Attached is the public hearing notice for the upcoming City Council hearing on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 regarding the
Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan.
If you should have any questions, please contact Erica H. Demkowicz at (714) 573-3127 or or
Scott Reekstin at (714) 573-3016 or
Erica H. Demkowicz, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Tustin
Community Development Department
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
(714) 573-3127
Demkowicz, Erica
From: Dat Nguyen <
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 12:07 PM
To: Demkowicz, Erica
Subject: Red Hill Ave Specific Plan - Tustin
Hi Erica,
I left a message on your phone and have summarized some questions for you. Hopefully you can answer if applicable at this
time.
My wife's dental office (99 cent store block) is on the corner of walnut/red hill ave. It looks like that block will now be affected
for the specific plan.
I did not see this area included on the 2016 map.
Can you let me know when this project might be expected to begin?
For the block in question, will there be only street improvements? What else?
Will there be parking lot improvements?
Will ATT finally put high speed internet for the business complex there? (currently only DSL)
Are there any negatives to this project besides the obvious traffic slowdown during construction?
Thank You for your time!
Dat Nguyen
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From: Tom O'Meara <
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:12 PM
To: Binsack, Elizabeth; Willkom, Justina; Demkowicz, Erica; Reekstin, Scott; Tiscareno, Vera;
Craig, Jerry
Cc: Mike Abel ( ; 'Bruce Heathcote'; Howard Abel; Robert Jarrard
Subject: RHASP Item
Hi Elizabeth:
Thank you for your time yesterday. An item we are still having heart burn over is in the event of an insured building
casualty within the RHASP where more than 50% of the building's replacement value is destroyed I cannot rebuild
the building in the same approximate location. I understand that the building will need to be rebuilt to current
construction code and per the development standards and architectural elements of the RHASP. However, if a
casualty occurs and I'm required to be constructed per the RHASP design criteria then it will require me to relocate
the building up front, along Red Hill Avenue.
This requirement would put us in direct violation of our existing leases, lender requirements, shopping center
CC&Rs and creates undue legal and financial burdens. Could we look at a carve out in the RHASP whereby, in the
event of an insured building casualty, we can rebuild the building at approximately the same location where it
currently sits? This is especially important to our ownership as we own a single tenant 26,00o SF building which we
will be re -tenanting in the next few years. If I cannot offer prospective tenants a concrete right to rebuild then I will
not be able to find a tenant to occupy and invest in our building.
Could you please provide the Planning Commission a copy of this email tonight? Perhaps we can discuss at tonight's
meeting.
Regards,
Tom O'Meara
ICI Development Company, Inc.
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From:
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Sent:
Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:40 PM
To:
Demkowicz, Erica;. Robert Jarrard;
Mike Abel;
Cc:
Binsack, Elizabeth; Willkom,lustina; Reekstin, Scott; Craig, Jerry; Tiscareno, Vera
Subject:
RE: RE; Second Revised Attachment F - Errata List for the Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
Thank you, Erica. A quick question along the lines of your most recent strikeout edit to section 4-6. Could you please
confirm if my understanding is correct?
1) When remodeling an existing non -conforming structure and the remodel cost exceeds fifty (50) percent of
the structures assessed value this will only trigger the application of the development standards in Table 4-3
and NOT require conformance with the RHASP design criteria? Correct?
Thank you,
Tom O'Meara
ICI Development Company, Inc.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:15 PM
To: Tom O'Meara < ; Robert Jarrard < ;
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< ; Craig, Jerry < ; Tiscareno, Vera <
Subject: RE: RE; Second Revised Attachment F - Errata List for the Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
Please note the staff has made some additional changes to the Errata List that I e-mailed to you this morning. There is
some additional language that will be removed from the document in Sections 4.6 and 6. It is shown in strikeout with a
line through it. Please see attached.
Regards
Erica H. Demkowicz, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Tustin
Community Development Department
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
(714) 573-3127
From: Demkowicz, Erica
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:29 AM
To:' < Robert Jarrard
< Mike Abel <
Cc: Binsack, Elizabeth < ; Willkom, Justina < ; Reekstin, Scott
< ; Craig, Jerry < ; Tiscareno, Vera <
Subject: RE; Revised Attachment F - Errata List for the Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
Good Morning Everyone,
Please find the attached revised Errata List, which is Attachment F of the Staff Report for tonight's Planning Commission
meeting.
Regards,
Erica H. Demkowicz, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Tustin
Community Development Department
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
(714) 573-3127
By my recollection it has taken about ten years but Red Hill Plaza is now at full
occupancy.
Across Red Hill Avenue from Red Hill Plaza is the only open land available. This is not
really large parcel. I think that is too small even considering the Coldwell Banker
Property to base all of the grandiose plans contained in the Specific Plan.
The idea of a five story building on that property is an abomination. It will block the
horizon and the sun. The increased human density of residential units in this position in
an area that is already crowded iiWso not warranted. Please consider holding the height
To two stories and setting it well back from the street.
Parking in the residential and apartment areas around San Juan is already an impossible
situation. Increasing the human density in this area will only make the parking situation
worse. You should examine the traffic situation on a school morning at Vee Elementary.
The idea of creating residential permit parking in these areas is another abomination. We
don't need that kind of government supervision in our neighborhood.
At the last meeting about 90 percent of the speakers who were not already boosters of the
plan expressed negative opinions of it.
At the last meeting someone expressed that the appearance of homeless people as a
reason to up develop the area. Up development is not any way to address homelessness.
Let's remember that homeless people are our human brothers and sisters not cattle to be
shunted about on sight. Everybody has to be somewhere. In the gospel Christ calls the
less fortunate the least among us.
Public comment by:
Michael Hubman
Demkowicz, Erica
From: Pam Sapetto <
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:30 AM
To: Demkowicz, Erica
Cc: Craig Swanson; Andrea Maloney; Mary Coffee; John Nielsen
Subject: Red Hill Corridor Specific Plan - for the Administrative Record,
Attachments: Park Land Dedication and In -Lieu Fee Revised Mitigation Measure.pdf
Importance: High
Dear Erica:
We are re -submitting our memo from August 13, 2018 which outlines our position .
regarding the imposition of Parkland fees for the Red Hill Specific Plan area. We would
appreciate this memo and email being distributed to the Planning Commission as soon
as possible since it is for tonight's hearing.
While the developer appreciates the staff's consideration of changes to the fee ordinance
to make it less burdensome, the ordinance still suffers from all the same legal issues,
and is still overburdens projects in Red Hill Specific Plan. The multiplier remains too high
to reflect actual unit occupancy, resulting in Specific Plan developers providing a subsidy
to address staff's belief that there is an existing deficit of parkland in the City, for which
the developer would not be legally responsible.
Thank you for your assistance
Pamela Sapetto
Principal, Sapetto Real Estate Solutions, Inc
www.sapettorealestate.com
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SAPETTO REAL ESTATE SOLUTIONS, INC.
August 13, 2018
Chairman and Members of the Planning Commission
City of Tustin
Sent via email
RE: Public Hearing of August 14, 2018, Agenda Item 5: Red Hill Avenue Specific
Plan EIR — Mitigation Measure 14.12-1 Recreation
Dear Chairman and Members of the Planning Commission:
We have been discussing with City staff the Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan EIR
Mitigation Measure 14.12-1 requiring the Park Land Dedication or In -lieu fee (the
"Mitigation Measure"). The Mitigation Measure provided in the January 2018 draft
EIR would have required a fee that, based on the most recent Park Land Valuation,
would have totaled approximately $3,644,444 per acre or $24,000 per dwelling
unit, which is an amount that would make any development project infeasible.
According to the staff report released on August 10, 2018 for the Red Hill Specific
Plan and related Environmental Impact Report (EIR); the Mitigation Measure has
now been revised and indicates that a Park Land Dedication of 3 acres per 1,000
population, consistent with the Quimby Act, is required for all projects within the
Specific Plan. Further, for projects with density of greater than 25du, the Average
Persons Per Dwelling Unit will be determined by the Community Development
Director based upon product type. (See Attachment A.)
We appreciate staff s willingness to address our concerns, however, this revision
does not provide the information needed for a developer to determine with
sufficient certainty the feasibility of a project proposed within the Specific Plan
area. Specifically, the revised Mitigation Measure provides no set fee amount or
calculation parameters for projects with densities greater than 25 du per gross acre.
We have reviewed the population generation rates developed by a number of
Orange County cities for apartment units and they range from 1.3 to 1.9 persons
per unit, with fees ranging between $5,000 to $10,000 per dwelling unit. We
recommend that a per unit fee be provided by the Mitigation Measure for projects
greater than 25du per acre at no more than $8,000 per base unit (as defined in the
recently approved City of Tustin Voluntary Workforce Housing Ordinance No.
Sapetto Real Estate Solutions, Inc • One Park Plaza, #600 PMB 313, Irvine, California 92614 - (949) 252.0841
www.SapettoRealEstate.com -
RedHill Avenue Specific Plan EIR Mitigation Measure 14.12-1
August 13, 2018
Page 2
1491), and that the measure should require that fees collected pursuant to the
Mitigation Measure be used only for additional park land or improvements to
existing parks located in reasonable proximity to specific residential project paying
fees, and within the Specific Plan area.
Further, we request that the Parkland Mitigation Fee should only be imposed on
the basis of "base units" because it is not clear pursuant to the existing Mitigation
Measure text whether the City intends to require payment of the fee imposed for
bonus units provided to projects receiving a density bonus under California
Density Bonus Law (Gov. Code, §§ 65915-65918) as an incentive to provide
affordable housing units on-site or offsite. California Density Bonus Law
encourages development of affordable housing via a package of incentives,
including density bonuses and project concessions, that are intended to make
development of affordable housing economically feasible. To the extent the City
intends to _calculate the Parkland Mitigation Fees for Red Hill Specific Plan
projects in a manner that allocates a fee to these incentive bonus units provided
under state law, it would be contrary to the purpose of the Density Bonus Law and
burdensome for projects that would otherwise help the City achieve important
affordable housing goals.
We believe that in order to encourage the development of much needed housing,
(and affordable housing) in the Specific Plan area, which is in need of
revitalization, the City should provide incentives to builders. Exclusion of bonus
density units from application of the Parkland Mitigation Fee is one of the best
ways for the City to assure that developers attain the full benefit. of incentives
provided by state law to encourage development of housing.
We sincerely appreciate to your consideration of our request.
Respectfully,
Pamela Sapetto
Principal
Sapetto Real Estate Solutions, Inc.
RedHill Avenue Specific Plan EIR Mitigation Measure 14.12-1
August 1.3, 2018
Page 3
Attachment "A"
Existing Text:
Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
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Prior to the issuance of
community Development
Code (Amide 9, Chapter 3, Section 9331 of the Tustin City Code), prior to the
Building Permits
Department— Planning &
issuance of building permits a0pil4ants shall dedicate parkland or pay a park
Zoning Division
fee, on a -per unit basis, reflecting the value:of land required for park
purposes. The amount of such fee shall be. based. upon the fair market value
of the amount of iandwhich would otherwise be required for dedication,
according to the following standards and formula.
Standards and Formula for land Dedication:
The. public interest, convenience, health, welfare, and safety requires that
three (3) acres of usablepark land per one thousand (1,606) potential
population tie devoted to local park and recreational purposes.
The minimum amount of land that would be otherwise be required for
dedication shall be computed by multiplying the nuMber of proposed
dwelling urjitsby the Parkland Acres per Dwelling Unit in accordance with the
appropriate density classification in the following table:
Dwelling Units per average Persons per Parkland Acres per
Gross Acre Dwelling Unit Dwelling Unit
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based upon proposed achieve'three (3) acres/
product type 1,O0o population
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These density ranges, average persons per dwelling unit and/or parkland
acreage per dwelling unit shall be Used to achieve a parkland dedication rate
of three. (3) acres of parkland per one thousand (1,000} persons.
Recommended text:
Delete 4th row of of the table set forth in Mitigation 4.12-1. Add text following the revised tab
mandating:
"Projects proposing a Residential Allocation Reservation of base units that result in
a density of 25.1 du per gross acre or more shall pay a Parkland Mitigation Fee of
$8,000 per "Base Unit," as that term is defined in Municipal Code Section B9912."
Demkowicz, Erica
From: Pam Sapetto <
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:30 AM
To: Demkowicz, Erica
Cc: Craig Swanson; Andrea Maloney; Mary Coffee; John Nielsen
Subject: Red Hill Corridor Specific Plan - for the Administrative Record.
Attachments: Park Land Dedication and In -Lieu Fee Revised Mitigation Measure.pdf
Importance: High
Dear Erica:
We are re -submitting our memo from August 13, 2018 which outlines our position
regarding the imposition of Parkland fees for the Red Hill Specific Plan area. We would
appreciate this memo and email being distributed to the Planning Commission as soon
as possible since it is for tonight's hearing.
While the developer appreciates the staff's consideration of changes to the fee ordinance
to make it less burdensome, the ordinance still suffers from all the same legal issues,
and is still overburdens projects in Red Hill Specific Plan. The multiplier remains too high
to reflect actual unit occupancy, resulting in Specific Plan developers providing a subsidy
to address staff's belief that there is an existing deficit of parkland in the City, for which
the developer would not be legally responsible.
Thank you for your assistance
Pamela Sapetto
Principal, Sapetto Real Estate Solutions, Inc
www.saDettorealestate.com
SAPETTO REAL ESTATE SOLUTIONS, INC.
August 13, 2018
Chairman and Members of the Planning Commission
City of Tustin
Sent via email
RE: Public Hearing of August 14, 2018, Agenda Item 5: Red Hill Avenue Specific
Plan EIR — Mitigation Measure 14.12-1 Recreation
Dear Chairman and Members of the Planning Commission:
We have been discussing with City staff the Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan EIR
Mitigation Measure 14.12-1 requiring the Park Land Dedication or In -lieu fee (the
"Mitigation Measure"). The Mitigation Measure provided in the January 2018 draft
EIR would have required a fee that, based on the most recent Park Land Valuation,
would have totaled approximately $3,644,444 per acre or $24,000 per dwelling
unit, which is an amount that would make any development project infeasible.
According to the staff report released on August 10, 2018 for the Red Hill Specific
Plan and related Environmental Impact Report (EIR), the Mitigation Measure has
now been revised and indicates that a Park Land Dedication of 3 acres per 1,000
population, consistent with the Quimby Act, is required for all projects within the
Specific Plan. Further, for projects with density of greater than 25du, the Average
Persons Per Dwelling Unit will be determined by the Community Development
Director based upon product type. (See Attachment A.)
We appreciate staff's willingness to address our concerns, however, this revision
does not provide the information needed for a developer to determine with
sufficient certainty the feasibility of a project proposed within the Specific Plan
area. Specifically, the revised Mitigation Measure provides no set fee amount or
calculation parameters for projects with densities greater than 25 du per gross acre.
We have reviewed the population generation rates developed by a number of
Orange County cities for apartment units and they range from 1.3 to 1.9 persons
per unit, with fees ranging between $5,000 to $10,000 per dwelling unit. We
recommend that a per unit fee be provided by the Mitigation Measure for projects
greater than 25du per acre at no more than $8,000 per base unit (as defined in the
recently approved City of Tustin Voluntary Workforce Housing Ordinance No.
Sapetto Real Estate Solutions, Inc • One Park Plaza, #600 PMB 313, Irvine, California 92614 • (949) 252-0841
www.SapettoRealEstate.com
RedHill Avenue Specific Plan EIR Mitigation Measure 14.12-1
August 13, 2018
Page 2
1491), and that the measure should require that fees collected pursuant to the
Mitigation Measure be used only for additional park land or improvements to
existing parks located in reasonable proximity to specific residential project paying
fees, and within the Specific Plan area.
Further, we request that the Parkland Mitigation Fee should only be imposed on
the basis of "base units" because it is not clear pursuant to the existing Mitigation
Measure text whether the City intends to require payment of the fee imposed for
bonus units provided to projects receiving a density bonus under California
Density Bonus Law (Gov. Code, §§ 65915-65918) as an incentive to provide
affordable housing units on-site or offsite. California Density Bonus Law
encourages development of affordable housing via a package of incentives,
including density bonuses and project concessions, that are intended to make
development of affordable housing economically feasible. To the extent the City
intends to calculate the Parkland Mitigation Fees for Red Hill Specific Plan
projects in a manner that allocates a fee to these incentive bonus units provided
under state law, it would be contrary to the purpose of the Density Bonus Law and
burdensome for projects that would otherwise help the City achieve important
affordable housing goals.
We believe that in order to encourage the development of much needed housing,
(and affordable housing) in the Specific Plan area, which is in need of
revitalization, the City should provide incentives to builders. Exclusion of bonus
density units from application of the Parkland Mitigation Fee is one of the best
ways for the City to assure that developers attain the full benefit of incentives
provided by state law to encourage development of housing.
We sincerely appreciate to your consideration of our request.
Respectfully,
Pamela Sapetto
Principal
Sapetto Real Estate Solutions, Inc.
RedHill Avenue Specific Plan EIR Mitigation Measure 14.12-1
August 13, 2018
Page 3
Attachment "A"
Existing Text:
Red HIII Avenue Specific Plan
Mitigation Mon ftoring and Reporting Program
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Applicant
Prior to the Issuance of
Community Development
Code (Article 91 Chapter 3, Section 9331 of the Tustin City Code), prior to the
Building Permits
Department — Planning &
Issuanceof building permits, applicants shall dedicate parkland or pay a park
Zoning Division
fee, on a per unit basis, reflecting the value of land required for park
purposes. The amount of such fee shall be based upon the fair market value
of the amount of land which would otherwise be required for dedication,
according to the following standards and formula.
Standards and Formula for land Dedication:
The public interest, convenience, health, welfare, and safety requires that
three (3) acres of usable park land per one thousand (1,000) potential
population be devoted to local park and recreational purposes.
The minimum amount of land that would be otherwise be required for
dedication shall be computed by multiplying the number of proposed
dwelling units by the Parkland Acres per Dwelling Unit In accordance with the
appropriate density classification in the following table:
Dwelling Units per Average Persons per Parkland Acres per
Gross AcreDwelling Unit Dwelling Unit
_
0-7 3.39 .0102
7.1-15 2,9S .0086
1511.25 2.24 .0067
25.1 & Above As determined by CDD To be calculated to
based upon proposed achieve three (3) acres/
roduct t 1,000 po ulation
Mobile Home Parks 2,24 ,0067
These density ranges, average persons per dwelling unit and/or parkland
acreage per dwelling unit shall be used to achieve a parkland dedication rate
of three (3) acres of parkland per one thousand (1,000) persons.
Recommended text:
Delete 4' row of of the table set forth in Mitigation 4.12-1. Add text following the revised tab
mandating:
"Projects proposing a Residential Allocation Reservation of base units that result in
a density of 25.1 du per gross acre or more shall pay a Parkland Mitigation Fee of
$8,000 per "Base Unit,” as that term is defined in Municipal Code Section B9912."
City of Tustin Planning Commission
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
Dear Planning Commissioners,
RECEIVED
AUG 28 2018
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMH%-f
BY;
I live adjacent to the Red Hill Specific Plan area. I am writing to urge you to make the two modifications,
set out below, to the current version of the Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan.
First, the height of buildings on the north side of the freeway need to be limited to three stories, just as
those on the south side are. The area north of the freeway, along Red Hill, is a community of single
family residences, lower density apartments, a park, and a school. The addition of a
commercial/residential mix along the north side of the freeway would be fine, but the visual impact of
huge, looming five story buildings would be jarring and not fit well with the rest of the area.
Second, high density housing will provide too much automobile traffic in the area. The corner of Red Hill
and EI Camino is already, according to the Tustin Police, one of the worst intersections for accidents. In
addition, the auto pollution (emissions + brake dust) create microparticles that are unhealthy to
children's lungs—and Tustin High is right next door. Apartments are fine, but please make them low
density to conform to other apartment concentrations in the area and limit traffic. If Caltrans widens the
freeway, there's already going to be more air pollution (electric cars are only slowly catching on).
Finally, I have some suggestions:
Please make the sidewalks wide enough for multiple people to walk side by side and two wheelchairs to
pass, and also mandate bike lanes. The sidewalks in the older part of Tustin are generally too narrow, as
are the bike lanes down Bryan. Pedestrian -bike conflict on the sidewalks happens all the time and
accidents have happened.
And the trees for the Plan area—please no more magnolia trees or messy carrot wood trees! Magnolias
consume too much water; they have surface roots the heave sidewalks, invade sewer systems, and crack
slabs. Magnolias are found throughout parks and public places in the Deep South where it rains a lot,
but they just don't work here. They shed leaves year-round, making a mess on sidewalks here. (The
leaves when dry are very slick. They form layers and slide against each other, making a walking hazard
for elderly people). Chinese Pistache (which are planted near the Specific Plan area, on Lear Lane)
consume less water than magnolias, and don't heave sidewalks with surface roots. They have miniscule
scarce flowers in summer, the leaves turn a beautiful gold in October and they shed leaves only for
about 6 weeks in November and December. They leaf out again in the spring to shade the area. These
trees would save the city maintenance money and look a lot better than the scrawny drought -starved
magnolias currently planted along Bryan Ave.
Next, a company called Carbon Cure makes concrete that is injected with carbon dioxide, making it
stronger and longer -lasting that conventional concrete for city infrastructure. That would save the city
money in the long run too. And could we require solar power and backup batteries for all buildings?
It would be great if the city was in the forefront of progress for a change instead of dragged kicking and
screaming from the past into the present.
Anyway, thank you for the opportunity to voice my concerns.
Sincerely,
Beverley Laumann
August 28, 2018
Mayor AI Murray
Honorable Members of the City Council
Chairman Austin Lumbard
Honorable Members of the Planning Commission
Erica Demkowicz, Senior Planner
Re: Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
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AUG 28 2018
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
B l;
Thank you for letting me speak at the Planning Commission Meeting on August 14th and I look forward
to the next meeting on the Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan.
I am actually in favor of mixed land use within the Plan's boundaries.
However there are some things that would need to change before I could fully support the Plan.
• Restrict developments or projects to 3 stories or 30 feet in height.
o Developments higher than that do not reflect the nature of the surrounding land uses.
o Even with stepped setbacks taller developments would create a canyon like feel.
■ No one has developed a virtual 3-D model showing the visual impact to a
pedestrian, cyclist, or driver traveling along Red Hill Avenue.
■ The only exhibits shown are the possible street widths with bicycle or
pedestrian paths without the adjacent 5 story buildings.
■ In addition, all the photographs appear to be taken with a wide angle lens which
distorts the perspective by making the space look larger. The photographs
should have been taken with a 50 mm lens (considered to be what the human
eye sees) and at the appropriate height of a pedestrian, cyclist, and driver of a
standard vehicle.
o Taller developments could funnel Santa Ana winds down Red Hill Avenue.
o Residents who purchased their homes that border the Plan area envisioned that their
neighborhoods would retain their character based upon the General Plan.
• The overall residential density needs to be reduced in the plan to the R2 and R3 of the
surrounding properties especially when combined with 325,00o square feet of commercial uses.
o The increased density will affect the lifestyle of current residences and business by
increasing traffic on an already congested Red Hill Avenue.
o Do not allow the transfer of 105 residential units allocated for the land south of 1-5 to be
transferred to the to the land on the north side. This is a tremendous increase in
density.
o The General Plan Goal 1, Policy 1.1: "Preserve the low-density quality ofTustin's
existing single-family neighborhoods while permitting compatible multi -family
Demkowicz, Erica
From: Victoria Kim <
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:14 PM
To: Demkowicz, Erica
Subject: Red hill specific plan
Hi Erica
Thank you for your presentation of the Red Hill Specific Plan at Planning Commission in August.
I am new to Tustin and I've heard of the proposal for Red Hill. My only concern is the traffic congestion- a few people
had mentioned parking at the meeting but what about the traffic, especially to 1-5 south? It is the only entrance to that
highway in that area; Newport doesn't have one. The cars taking the freeway already back up and there is only one lane
going unto the freeway.
I saw that there is a traffic study done - with the increased density I'm afraid that there will be an increase of the number
of cars and thus congestion on that road.
Thank you,
Victoria
Demkowicz, Erica
From: TustinPlanning
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:39 PM
To: L Ka h rs
Cc: Demkowicz, Erica; Reekstin, Scott
Subject: RE: Red Hill Specific Plan
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Flagged
Hello Leane,
The City is in receipt of your e-mail and it will be added to the public record.
Regards,
Erica H. Demkowicz, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Tustin - Community Development Department
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
(714) 573-3127
From: L Kahrs [
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:42 AM
To: TustinPlanning
Subject: Red Hill Specific Plan
Dear All:
I attended my first Planning Commission meeting last night, August 14, 2018 and found it fascinating. I have
been a resident of Tustin Meadows for over 20 years.
Thank you for all of the work you do and the difficult decisions you must make on a regular basis.
I did not speak at the meeting, I just wanted to observe the proceedings.
I understand that the commissioners are still interested in getting resident input on the Red Hill Specific Plan. I
hope this is the correct email address to use to send comments.
My first comment is regarding parking. Yes it is bad - right now it is bad. I don't like the piecemeal 'solution' of
requiring permitting in any of the neighborhoods. Permitting just pushes the problem over a block or two.
Residents have already shown that they won't need/want fewer cars because of parking problems. The parking
issues have already spilled over into Tustin Meadows as people leave their cars here for days and get rides to
their apartment buildings nearby. Everyone seems to agree that Tustin currently does an inadequate job of
requiring enough parking spaces in any of the local shopping centers either. If anything parking space
requirements should be increased, not decreased. Its no wonder that many people prefer to shop online and
order take-out delivery rather than battle traffic and parking problems. How will any mixed-use businesses find
customers if there is nowhere to park?
Please reexamine the mixed use properties in Old Town Tustin. It took years to get those sold and even now
many of the lower level businesses sit empty or unused.
I was really dismayed at the dismissive attitude of the experts Tustin hired to come up with a plan. There won't
be any new parks in an already open space deficient area. They agreed that traffic will be worse, pollution will
be worse, noise will be worse. What will be better? It might be prettier??? I don't like that trade-off at all.
There was no discussion regarding if any of this will be affordable housing either. One of the charms of Tustin
is that it is more integrated then many of the surrounding communities. We need to at least try to keep Tustin
affordable.
Thank you so much to Dr. Moore who spent some time researching plans by Caltrans to expand the 5 freeway
through this area. Our hired 'experts' didn't address that issue at all. The expansion will clearly cause more
issues with traffic flows on Red Hill and parking on Nisson. Please consider the bigger picture of these plans.
The shopping center owners also made great points against the Specific Plan. Unless the city plans to take
control of the properties entirely, or somehow subsidize them for their lost rents during transition/construction
how could this possibly be implemented? Are these owners in a financial position to implement these plans
even if they wanted to? I sort of doubt it or they most likely would have made improvements to their properties
already to try to attract higher rents.
Thank you for your kind attention,
Leane Kahrs
SAPETTO REAL ESTATE SOLUTIONS, INC. RECEIVED
AUG 1A 2018
August 13, 2018 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BY: -
Chairman and Members of the Planning Commission
City of Tustin
Sent via email
RE: Public Hearing of August 14, 2018, Agenda Item 5: Red Hill Avenue Specific
Plan EIR — Mitigation Measure 14.12-1 Recreation
Dear Chairman and Members of the Planning Commission:
We have been discussing with City staff the Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan EIR
Mitigation Measure 14.12-1 requiring the Park Land Dedication or In -lieu fee (the
"Mitigation Measure"). The Mitigation Measure provided in the January 2018 draft
EIR would have required a fee that, based on the most recent Park Land Valuation,
would have totaled approximately $3,644,444 per acre or $24,000 per dwelling
unit, which is an amount that would make any development project infeasible.
According to the staff report released on August 10, 2018 for the Red Hill Specific
Plan and related Environmental Impact Report (EIR), the Mitigation Measure has
now been revised and indicates that a Park Land Dedication of 3 acres per 1,000
population, consistent with the Quimby Act, is required for all projects within the
Specific Plan. Further, for projects with density of greater than 25du, the Average
Persons Per Dwelling Unit will be determined by the Community Development
Director based upon product type. (See Attachment A.)
We appreciate staff's willingness to address our concerns, however, this revision
does not provide the information needed for a developer to determine with
sufficient certainty the feasibility of a project proposed within the Specific Plan
area. Specifically, the revised Mitigation Measure provides no set fee amount or
calculation parameters for projects with densities greater than 25 du per gross acre.
We have reviewed the population generation rates developed by a number of
Orange County cities for apartment units and they range from 1.3 to 1.9 persons
per unit, with fees ranging between $5,000 to $10,000 per dwelling unit. We
recommend that a per unit fee be provided by the Mitigation Measure for projects
greater than 25du per acre at no more than $8,000 per base unit (as defined in the
recently approved City of Tustin Voluntary Workforce Housing Ordinance No.
Sapetto Real Estate Solutions, Inc • One Park Plaza, #600 PMB 313, Irvine, California 92614 • (949) 252-0841
www.SapettoRealEstate.com
RedHill Avenue Specific Plan EIR Mitigation Measure 14.12-1
August 13, 2018
Page 2
1491), and that the measure should require that fees collected pursuant to the
Mitigation Measure be used only for additional park land or improvements to
existing parks located in reasonable proximity to specific residential project paying
fees, and within the Specific Plan area.
Further, we request that the Parkland Mitigation Fee should only be imposed on
the basis of "base units" because it is not clear pursuant to the existing Mitigation
Measure text whether the City intends to require payment of the fee imposed for
bonus units provided to projects receiving a density bonus under California
Density Bonus Law (Gov. Code, §§ 65915-65918) as an incentive to provide
affordable housing units on-site or offsite. California Density Bonus Law
encourages development of affordable housing via a package of incentives,
including density bonuses and project concessions, that are intended to make
development of affordable housing economically feasible. To the extent the City
intends to calculate the Parkland Mitigation Fees for Red Hill Specific Plan
projects in a manner that allocates a fee to these incentive bonus units provided
under state law, it would be contrary to the purpose of the Density Bonus Law and
burdensome for projects that would otherwise help the City achieve important
affordable housing goals.
We believe that in order to encourage the development of much needed housing,
(and affordable housing) in the Specific Plan area, which is in need of
revitalization, the City should provide incentives to builders. Exclusion of bonus
density units from application of the Parkland Mitigation Fee is one of the best
ways for the City to assure that developers attain the full benefit of incentives
provided by state law to encourage development of housing.
We sincerely appreciate to your consideration of our request.
Respectfully,
Pamela Sapetto
Principal
Sapetto Real Estate Solutions, Inc.
RedHill Avenue Specific Plan EIR Mitigafion Measure 14.12-1
August 13, 2018
Page 3
Attachment "A"
Existing Text:
Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
Mitigation Monitoring and Reporting Program
Table 1-1. MRigatkm Monitoring Requirements
r
MM 4.12-1: For residential projects not subject to City of Tustin Subdivision
Applicant
Prior to the issuance of
Community Development
Code (Article 91 Chapter 3, Section 9331 of the Tustin City Code), prior to the
Building Permits
Department— Planning &
Issuance of building permits, applicants shall dedicate parkland or pay a park
Zoning Division
fee, on a per unit basis, reflecting the value of land required for park
purposes. The amount of such fee shall be based upon the fair market value
of the amount of land which would otherwise be required for dedication,
-
according to the followingstandards and formula.
Standards and Formula for land Dedication:
The public Interest, convenience, health, welfare, and safety requires that
three (3) acres of usable park land per one thousand (1,000) potential
population be devoted to local park and recreational purposes.
The minimumamount of land that would be otherwise be required for
dedication shall be computed by multiplying the number of proposed
dwelling units by the Parkland Acres per Dwelling Unit in accordance with the
appropriate density classification in the following table:
'
Dwelling Units per Average Persons per Parkland Acres per
Gross Acre Dwelling Unit Dwelling Unit
0-7 3.39 .0102
7.1-15 2.95 .0086
15.125 2.24 ,0067
25,1 & Above As determined by CDD To be calculated to
based upon proposed achieve. three (3)acres/
product tWe 1,000 population
-
Mobile Home Parks 2.24 ,0067
These density ranges, average persons per dwelling unit and/or parkland
acreage per dwelling unit shall be used to achieve a parkland dedication rate
of three (3) acres of parkland per one thousand (1,000) persons.
Recommended text:
Delete 4th row of of the table set forth in Mitigation 4.12-1. Add text following the revised tab
mandating:
"Projects proposing a Residential Allocation Reservation of base units that result in
a density of 25.1 du per gross acre or more shall pay a Parkland Mitigation Fee of
$8,000 per "Base Unit," as that term is defined in Municipal Code Section B9912."
LEE &
ASSOCIATES
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE SERVICES
August 9, 2018
Via E-mail
Mayor Al Murray and Chairman Ryder Smith and
Honorable Members of the City Council Honorable Members of the Planning Commission
City of Tustin City of Tustin
300 Centennial Way 300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780 Tustin, CA 92780
E-mail:
Erica Demkowicz, Senior Planner
City of Tustin
300 Centennial Way
Tustin, CA 92780
E-mail:
Re: Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan
E-mail:
RECEIVED
AUG 1' 0 2018
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BY:
Dear Mayor Murray, Chairman Smith, Honorable City Council Members and Planning Commissioners
and Ms. Demkowicz,
Lee & Associates represents Richter Farms Trust, the owner of Red Hill Village shopping center
(99 Cent center) located at 14511-14601 Red Hill Avenue. We appreciate the city's desire to improve the
Red Hill Avenue commercial corridor. However, we are opposed to the plan as currently drafted and
believe it will result in the exact opposite of the intended objective. Some of our reasons are listed below:
Forced Obsolescence and Blight: Paragraph 4.6 Nonconforming Uses, Structures and
Parcels states in part; "When land uses intensify or change (including re -tenanting of existing commercial
spaces), existing structures or sites are modified by more than 50% of their existing square footage,
additional square footage, or new development is proposed, conformance with the regulations and design
outlined in the Specific Plan will be required".
This provision would force a landowner to comply with the new guidelines whenever they re -
tenant a commercial space. A change in tenancy occurs on a regular basis. If not allowed to re -tenant, a
shopping center owner would be forced to leave a space vacant, perhaps board up to avoid vandalism and
crime. Nearly every new tenant requires more than 50% of the space to be renovated with new tenant
improvements. Frequently a highly desired national quality tenant will require upgrades to the fagade
which would not be allowed under the RHASP. This forced obsolescence would occur of the next few
decades before the buildings and existing long-term leases expire wherein the value of the shopping
centers would be the land value only and permit the development as proposed in RHASP.
This would also force out all of the "Mom and Pop" convenience store merchants who rely upon
existing centers to provide reasonable rental rates. Customers, many of whom have enjoyed decades of
convenience to their favorite stores and restaurants, would be forced to shop elsewhere. The shopping
centers currently for the most part are 100 percent leased.
Lee & Associates - Irvine, Inc. A Member of the Lee & Associates Group of Companies
Corporate ID# 01044791 / 9838 Research Drive / Irvine, CA 92618
Office: 949.727.1200 / Fax: 949.727.1299
August 9, 2018
Page 2
Unfair Burden: Paragraph 3.2.1 Mixed Use states in part; "Freestanding
commercial/office uses will likely continue to be the dominant pattern within the Specific Plan area, as
many parcels are too small to accommodate the parking, common open space, and pedestrian -oriented
requirements outlined in the Development Regulation and Design Criteria in an integrated mixed-use
development." This correctly identifies that all of the smaller "freestanding" commercial properties along
this proposed corridor would not be able to comply with RHASP set -backs and improvements leaving the
entire cost and land dedication burden upon three shopping center owners (Red Hill Village, Stater
Brothers Center and Red Hill Plaza). In order for these three owners to comply, it would require that their
properties be reduced to land value wiping out 2/3`ds of the current value equating to tens of millions of
dollars in losses.
We ask the question: Who is going to pay for all of the overhead utilities going underground for
the non -center properties? Will they go underground at the shopping centers, then pop up in the non -
center commercial properties? By having only three properties eventually improved along the corridor it
would look more like a smile with missing teeth than the pedestrian friendly environment RHASP
envisioned.
Not My Tustin: Paragraph 1.1 Executive Summary states in part; "The RHASP provides
for an additional 500 dwelling units and an additional 325,000 square feet of non-residential uses as a
threshold of development intensity." This increased "intensity" would require as stated in RHASP 4 and
5 story buildings on the three shopping center parcels. I have lived near Foothill High School in North
Tustin for over 30 years. On a daily basis we enjoy shopping and dining in Tustin primarily for
convenience but also for the quiet charm that Tustin has been famous and envisioned by Columbus Tustin
over 150 years ago when he and his partner purchased 1,300 acres from Rancho Santiago de Santa Ana.
We have enjoyed for the most part single story buildings with our children participating in the Tiller days
parade.
This proposed increased density would increase traffic, pollution and population. All of which is
contrary to what we Tustin residents have grown to enjoy. This RHASP plan may work on vacant land
such as the District but not in our existing neighborhoods.
Viable Alternative: We welcome the plans to increase street median plantings and partitions
such as currently provided in the southern portion of the plan area. Also, nicer bus stop and sidewalk
areas could be provided. If a parcel becomes vacant, such as the parcel to the West of Red Hill Plaza,
then I would suggest a Mixed Use overlay that could be obtained through the Conditional Use Permit
process where each project could be evaluated on its own merits. Then at that time and place, residents
and governing agencies could evaluate and potentially allow greater densities than what are currently
allowed.
Conclusion: Although our above concerns do not address all the issues, we believe the Red
Hill Avenue Specific Plan as. currently drafted is without economic foundation, putting the primary cost
on three owners. The Plan is contrary to the Tustin charm and destined for failure. We hope the city will
not adopt this plan.
Best regards,
Bruce Heathcote
L EE Si
ASSOCIATES®
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE SERVICES
August 9, 2018
Page 3
Principal
cc: Richter Farms Trust
L&EE &
ASSOCIATES®
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE SERVICES
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From: Kristen Nesselrod <
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 4:10 PM
To: Demkowicz, Erica
Subject: Redhill Plan feedback- Re: Can we email comments if we can't attend planning
meeting?
Hello Erica,
As a resident of Tustin, just off 1st Street near Redhill, I have some big concerns regarding the Redhill Ave
Specific Plan. In particular, for the proposed 4-5 story high-density housing. That level of density is much
greater than that of the surrounding areas. The neighborhoods nearby area all 1 to 2 story (with the
exception I think if the development near the freeway by the corner of EI Camino). The smaller streets
and older infrastructure are not meant to handle the increase in traffic (especially with the proposed "1St
street diet." A 4-5 story level of density is seen over in the newer developments of The District where new
infrastructure is created to manage that level of density. Furthermore, 4-5 story developments would
impact the sight lines of the neighbors and change the setting of the surrounding areas.
Also, maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any propositions for green spaces or walking paths.
Please let it be known that I wish the city to preserve the vanishing character and charm of our
neighborhood. I feel a collaborative approach that respects the voices of people who live with the
impacts of decisions is the best way to go about this. Maybe the 4-5 story proposition is in "shoot for the
moon" style, but 2, maybe 3 stories max would be more appropriate.
Please don't sacrifice my/our neighborhood for the benefit of for-profit developers.
Sincerely,
Kristen Nesselrod
From: Demkowicz, Erica <
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:18 AM
To:
Cc: TustinPlanning
Subject: FW: Can we email comments if we can't attend planning meeting?
Hello Kristen,
Please feel free to e-mail me with any comments or feedback regarding the Red Hill Avenue Specific Plan. My e-mail
is
Regards,
Erica H. Demkowicz, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Tustin - Community Development Department
300 Centennial Way
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-----Original Message -----
From: Tustin Planning
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 9:11 AM
To: Demkowicz, Erica
Subject: FW: Can we email comments if we can't attend planning meeting?
Please see below regarding Red Hill SP.
-----Original Message -----
From: Kristen Nesselrod [
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 11:33 AM
To: TustinPlanning
Subject: Can we email comments if we can't attend planning meeting?
Hi,
Just saw the Facebook post about the public meeting on the proposed Redhill Ave development plan. Can we, if so
where, send feedback/comments, if we are unable to attend the meeting?
Thank you,
Kristen Nesselrod
Sent from my iPhone. Please forgive typos & strange auto corrections. Thanks.
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centcxs with rnut'tiple parcels, such as tllcsa that"extst on the cast sIie of Reil"till Avenue, parking
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requireniertt. is zero -slim game Lana u:se for l ndsc�ping artd right of �+a r cart ofi be used dor.
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ih://www.tustinca.org/depts/cd/planningupdate.asp
Jim Williams
, -5d ago
Sounds like they want to mess up Red Hill also. You talk
about a traffic nightmare.
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Jim Williams
, -5d ago
What's up with these proposals. Am i missing something
know more money because of taxes.
Shane Darlington
-4d ago
I put a Post about this BS back in June.
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Catherine Reynolds
, -4d ago
Wow, I didn't know about the Redhill change too! But it said
they don't plan on changing this amount of lanes so I guess
the 71 bus will still be able to come down? This is crazy! I
didn't know they were going to build more houses but it
shouldn't be a surprise. There's already housing being built
on 6th. Street too!
me
Karol Williams
, -4d ago
But still not enough parking any where. It doesn't take a
brain surgeon
Penni Foley
, -5d ago
Neighbors, please take notice of the information in the yellow
box. Four to five story residences with 500 residential units
with shared or reduced parking. I am reminded of a time
more than 20 years ago. I was secretary to the Community
Development Director. It was a time when Tustin Ranch was
building out. I decided to actually read an EIR
(Environmental Impact Report). I came across the traffic
concerns and the answer to everything was that the issues
would be mitigated to a level of insignificance. I asked the
Director how you mitigate traffic to disappear. His reply was
that ou don't, you just add more lights to control the traffic.
Jim Williams
, -5d ago
That was a stupid answer huh. Add more lights. This is all
we need four to five story residences. They want it to look
like what there building down on Jamboree. More traffic
wonderful.
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Penni Foley
, Tustin Meadows -4d ago
Problem is, that is the solution to the traffic issue. I thought
he was joking, but he was serious.
Emil Geris
, -4d ago
This project is disaster to the area More Traffic , parking
problems to all residents around , if one of these 500 units
can't find a spot he will park in front of my house , all streets
around will be like a parking lots. I can't believe such this
project in Tustin . How and what this developer do to get
such this project to a level of public hearing , ohh yes money
talks ...
Brian Miller
, -4d ago
Hmmmm... the city conveniently edited their attached
document to remove more than a page of details containing
Camino Real. A far lesser, but real concern is the that the
development that has been proposed has ZERO consideration for
any surrounding architecture (it looks like Irvine puked an
apartment cube into vintage Tustin)
Frankly I'm gobsmacked that the city has allowed this to go this
far. I can't imagine us lowly residents being able to tell the city
council what we want will do any good when the big money
developers are seemingly the only ones they will listen to.
Julie Crowell This b
Julie Crowell They had a few input meetings last year at the Rec
center. My concern was traffic and all the new "stack a homes"
with no affordable housing.
Stephen Ramm 500 "dwelling units" and 325,OOOsq ft of
commercial space. That's a fairly large project. Hey, at least they
determined that they won't "destroy a unique paleontological
resource or site or unique geologic feature." G9
I can't believe they think this is a good idea.
Chuck Rogers I file this into "City Reacting" as opposed to "City
Planning." My wife and I as well as a handful of our neighbors
went to some of the meetings seeking community input ... we
quickly realized that they were only seeking input that was in
favor of the proposed development. This is not the district, the
only way this won't stick out like a sore thumb is if they bulldoze
the surrounding residences... and even then it will be a white
elephant.
Stephen Ramm Chuck Rogers and I thought Tustin was better than
that. Isn't the development next to the 5 bad enough?
Chuck Rogers Stephen Ramm Tustin WAS better than that ... I don't
mind that they went the sterile master -planned route at the
District; Pre -District Tustin has so much more character in it's
architecture.
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Stephen Ramm Chuck Rogers exactly ... I'm sure they spend their
nights wondering how they can demolish the old houses with
yards and build multi -story condos in their place.
Karen Kohler It's not a very thought out plan but then again not a
very detailed plan. It doesn't take into account for the traffic
impact it creates and the rise in housing costs it will create by
building 4 story Units nor the impact on residents who live in the
area. Its disappointing that the city council is even considering
this.
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Stephen Ramm I agree ... 325,OOOsq ft of commercial space is a lot
and will generate a lot of traffic both from employees and
customers. Then add in 1000 plus people living in the new 4-5
story "dwellings".
Karen Kohler Stephen Ramm I totally agree that Redhill needs a
facelift and that area especially but this proposition is just too
large.
Chuck Rogers Krys Saldivar (public works manager) once replied to
my concern about the street light timing stating the "signal
system has been functioning to its potential"...to it's potential! It
makes me giggle even still ... and they want to add another traffic
light a half block from the system of traffic lights that are about 5
car -lengths apart from one another
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Jeff Gallagher They have an upcoming meeting on what they are
calling the Redhill Specific Plan.
Chuck Rogers This is one of the last meetings... it's been years in
the making ... only a miracle will stop this now.
Jeff Gallagher Chuck Rogers, you can thank Jerry Amante and his
wrecking crew.
Guy Ball You can kiss the Tustin fireworks display goodbye if they
build a ton of condos/apts on that property! And good points on
the 5 fwy access. I guess all the decision makers (city planner,
manager, etc. ?) and regular planners in the city live in other
cities. (And do our current council have any input on this
process?)
Diane Triantis The current city counsel seems determined to
overbuild and turn Tustin into an overpopulated traffic nightmare.
They all need to be voted out. The planning commission is just as
bad.
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Kristen Dalen Freeman Such a devastating thing to do to the
beautiful community of Tustin. Unbelievable. They just want BIG
government. And fill their pockets.
Guy Ball We need to let our "elected" officials know this - as well
as the planning people. I will be sending out some emails as soon
as I really review the online content so I can comment with some
facts. In reality, the Redhill area needs help. But overbuilding isn't
the way to do it without negatively impacting our city. It was bad
enough what they jammed into the District area. Now, they want
to super -populate the older part of town. Does anyone remember
what happened in Santa Ana during the 80s when they did the
same thing? (I'm talking about overcrowding, zero -lot line,
minimal parking, and no greenbelts.) While our condos are
"prettier," the issues with parking, traffic, and change of city
character are the same. We don't need to be LA and can fight this
stuff. BUT we all need to voice our opinion early. (Kinda what we
did a bit with the stupidity on 4th St. And even that we really
didn't win.)
Karen Kohler Not to mention the over burden on our sewer
ysystems and power grid.
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Julie Crowell Stephen Ram holy crap) l Wonder if they sold. How
sad.
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Stephen Ramm Julie Crowell I know ... I couldn't believe it when I
saw it outlined. I always thought it was sad that Red Hill is
basically right on the front doorstep but tearing it all down to put
up apartments or whatever is just wrong.
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Julie Crowell Please please please we have to fight this. Coming
from Costa Mesa, it is now a 4-5 story town with way too much
traffic and no affordable housing. We were pushed out because
rent was so high. So much development and no places to park.
They built so much that with the problems it created, some
dwellings still are empty. There's no demand. Just rich developers
flipping the lots. We can't let that happen to Tustin.
Julie Crowell August 14th at 7pm city council chambers.
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Karen Kohler The only positive is that it would clean up the
�"hh�otel" area on EI Camino. Other than that, I see no benefit.
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Julie Crowell Uh, no. Have you driven by the new dwellings in
Costa Mesa?
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Julie Crowell That's what was promised by council. It would "clean
up" the city. It's only displacing long term residents from the
community. Super sad.
Julie Crowell Sorry. Didn't mean to laugh, its just not what
happens. Those are two different issues and need to be addressed
as such.
Karen Kohler Julie Crowell I live in this specific area. I am
completely opposed to this. Look at what the District looks
like ... ugh ...
Julie Crowell Karen Kohler totally.
Karen Kohler Julie Crowell I guess we will all have to show up on
the 14th.
Julie Crowell Costa Mesa has these 4-5 stories EVERYWHERE and
the drug addicts still there. They just also built a new library and it
won't clean up that problem either.
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Ok folks lots of mis-information going on about the proposed
project on Red Hill across from Big Lots. Fust, It is NOT 500
units, it is less than half that amount. Second, it is mostly studios
and one bedroom units creating less vehicles. There will be an
onsite hidden parking structure, to park all vehicles. No entry &
exit off of San Juan.
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Mary Lynn Coffee John is correct. Elevations and landscaping
plans are also very attractive, and amenities are significant.
Lori Brown Badilla Do you have any information on the Big Lots
shopping area. Will they be upgrading that are to keep up with the
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new Del Taco. WO
Mary Lynn Coffee I do not know immediate plans for upgrades. I
do believe the quality of the proposed project willl lead to an
upgrade if one does not occur prior to the construciton of the
propoed project.
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ChristyLee Lee May I post this on Nextdoor, please?
Steve Giddings ESTABLISHMENT OF THE RED HILL
AVENUE SPECIFIC PLAN (SP -13) AND ADOPTION OF
ASSOCIATED GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 2017-00001,
ZONE CHANGE 2017-0001 AND FINAL PROGRAM
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE PROJECT
AREA
APPLICANT: City of Tustin, 300 Centennial Way, Tustin, CA
92780
LOCATION:
36 acres along a portion of Red Hill Avenue generally bounded by
Bryan Avenue to the north and Walnut Avenue to the south
bisected by Interstate 5 (I-5), extending one (1) parcel east and
west of the Red Hill Avenue right-of-way.
REQUEST:
To establish new development standards and regulations for a
portion of Red Hill Avenue through the approval of the Red Hill
Avenue Specific Plan (SP -13) that would allow up to 500
additional residential units and 325,000 square feet of additional
nonresidential square footage and introduce new integrated mixed-
use land uses within the project area. Zone Change (ZC 2017-001)
would amend the City of Tustin zoning map and change the
existing zoning designation from Retail Commercial (C-1), Central
Commercial (C-2), Commercial General (CG) and Professional
(PR) to SP -13. General Plan Amendment (GPA) 2017-01 would
amend the City of Tustin General Plan land use map and include
minor text amendments to ensure consistency with the proposed
specific plan.
Darcie Cancino Thank you! I recall reading that as well.
ChristyLee Lee I wish we had more things for kids to do. We do
not have a bowling alley anymore, it is just sad. A skating rink
would do well. I would drive van loads of kids to the one in
Orange. It was worth the trouble because the kids had such fun.
Derek Mannion I would love to have a new Skating Rink in
Tustin!!! The District would be a perfect place for one. It would
have to have a maple wood floor of course. vv0
Amy Bui Hey there's a bowling alley at the district! 60
Jonathan Land 000000hhhhh no. We don't need any more of
those roller derby troublemakers around.
Derek Mannion Jonathan Land
Roller Rink, I Said Roller Rink!!!
Young Man!!!
Jonathan Land Aw c'mon! Next the youngsters will wanna play
POOL!
ChristyLee Lee Amy it has been so long since you kids have been
around I forgot about that one! So glad you are doing so well my
friend. I miss all of you.
Brett Olivier If your looking at plans for a new development in
Tustin maybe less is more!
Jill CrussemeyerJill and 104 others joiner! Tustin Buzz within
the last two weeks. Give them a warm welcome into your
community! Darcie Cancino no they don't (DO. I lived in
Eugene during the first wave of CA migration and the locals
weren't happy about what it did to housing costs.
Andrea Chang Jill Crussemeyer I lived in Eugene from 1995 to
2009. Never felt unwanted as most people there were transplants
rom here or elsewhere. I wouldn't go back though. Too liberal for
me.
Adriana Medina My dream home is waiting for me in Texas!!! I
can't afford anything but a closet in California!
Natasha Bhagat As someone who's spent 50% of life in Portland,
50% here, I can agree that there are more Californians than ever
there, but "Californian" is still a dirty word, mostly because of the
following: Don't bother moving there because property value and
rent is nearly equal to Tustin now, mostly because of "the
Californians" overpaying for everything
Cher NB Most likely Vancouver. No state tax and 5 min over the
border to Portland is no sales tax.
Natasha Bhagat Cher NB - True, there are still deals to be found
in Vancouver i
Kathryn McGovern Tapie I have clients who just moved to
Vancouver and love the easy lifestyle. I lived in Roseburg OR for
5 years and never felt like I wasn't wanted. I'm still very close to
most of my friends from there. It's all in what you do when you go
there. Just settle in and be a good person. We've been checking out
Vancouver to retire in.
Jonathan Stone For those of you interested/concerned about
development in Tustin, I highly recommend you attend the
Business and Economic Development Council monthly meeting.
Hosted by the Tustin Chamber of Commerce, the meeting is
relatively informal with presentations from the City on ongoing
work and frequently from larger stakeholders in the community
(often Marketplace and District management). There's a lot to be
learned by attending and many of the questions offered in this
thread (parking, congestion, water, etc) are addressed candidly. It's
generally referred to by its cryptic acronym but is held at the
Community Center in the Marketplace (the old Edwards theater)
on the second Thursday of every month.
http://business.tustinchamber.org/.../bedc-meeting-09-13...
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Kris McCue Where exactly do you think the money comes from
to beautify your home town? Development needs to happen. And
the city's terms of development can force the developers to pay all
of the costs to put in more landscaping. It'll clean up that entire
block end to end, fix the sidewalks, get rid of abandoned buildings,
add trees, increase city revenues to fix other problem areas within
the city, add jobs in both construction as well as the businesses in
the area. If it takes me 5 more minutes to get down the street, so be
it. The city will probably get upwards of $2M just in permit fees. I
drive Red Hill every day and rm all for this happening. It's long
overdue for a facelift there.
Chris McCrar% Agree to Disagree that this needs to happen.
Kris McCue Needs to happen.. Tustin looks like crap there.
Maybe you like busted sidewalks and poor landscaping, abandoned
buildings, and run-down shopping centers but I certainly don't.
a maximum of 55 gallons per person per day, indoor and outdoor
use. So it makes perfect sense to keep adding high density
housing - G) (sarcasm)
Darcie Cancino Jill
Crussemeyerhttps://www.pacificresearch.org/new-pennanent-
state.../...
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Jill CrussemeyerX11 and 104 others joined Tustin Buzz within
the last two weeks Give thein a warm welcome into your
community! Darcie Cancino didn't know this had become law.
Smack in the face for residents that have lived here for years to
make CA an amazing place to live.
Diane De Vaul I thought that didn't pass.
Darcie Cancino Diane De Vaul Brown signed the two companion
bills into law on May 31 MWQ
Diane De Vaul I am glad my exit plan is going into action.
California will always be in my heart. But I won't be in California.
Darcie Cancino Diane De Vaul me neither. I have maybe five
more years here, depending. Hopefully not much further out than
that.
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John Nielsen Did your traffic planner friend tell you that daily
trips decrease when you go from commercial/retail to residential?
Marcia Bartosik Moreno John Nielsen The stats from the planner
as well as a civil engineer are based on residential units.
Emily Martinez We are in a housing shortage. We need new
developments. Sorry. It's part of living in urban/suburban areas.
I'm hoping with more housing it will help with the rising cost of
buying/renting in OC. With the housing shortage landlords and
developers can demand more, because people are willing to pay it.
Maybe some of thein will be in the "affordable" range.
Julie Crowell https://voiceofoc.org/.../oc-one-of-least-
affordable.../
Julie Crowell New development can opt out of having units that
are "affordable" by paying a fee. That fee goes into a pool of
money that is not regulated.
Julie Crowell So they will most likely opt out from the get go.
Yay us.
Jill Crussemeyerfl/ and 104 others jointed Tustin Buzz within
the last two weeks Give them a warm welcome into your
environment when we moved here. The state's natural resources
are completely mismanaged, and we've put no money into roads
and other infrastructure, despite constant tax increases and bond
resources.
Chris McCrary We do not need more housing. There's enough
people here already.
Chuck Rogers John Nielsen Even if there are 250 studios you can
bet your bottom dollar that there will be two people on average
with two cars per unit.
The fact that the city is considering ANYTHING that might have
yet another traffic light is absurd. The city can't get the timing on
the current lights right and they haven't been able to do it in the
decade rve lived here. Before ANY significant housing like this is
considered the freeway access must be redesigned... According to
Krys... ifs working to it's potential... how cute, and sad.
Lastly, This size development fits right in at the district. it will
forever stick out like a sore thumb in this area. Just like the
behemoths on random streets in Fullerton.
I'd attend tonight's meeting, but after attending so many other city
meetings rve come to realize that the council has turned a deaf ear
to the residents. Please know that I won't be supporting any of the
city council next election and I would fully support any recall
efforts.
Julie Crowell QLysame! And know that the developers will
have people speak out in their favor. I've seen it happen' ' oowish
I could attend also but I'm with my little
Mary Rizzaro Yup
Delia Falls Unfortunately all politicians, even the ones working on
a small, local level, are most interested in keeping their campaign
contributors happy rather than their constituents.
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John Nielsen Chuck, What do you propose in a neighborhood
where the apartments and duplexes in the area were built in the
60's and 70's with continual deferred maintenance continue to
deteriorate and age in place. What usually happens to those types
of neighborhoods is that crime increases. I want to see that
neighborhood upgraded, and the only that happens is by giving
landowners and developers incentives to build new.
Chuck Rogers John Nielsen, I respect your point of view and I get
that affordable housing is certainly needed. I also appreciate that
developers may need incentives to build what the city wants (as
opposed to what the developers want). Frankly, I live a half block
away; the area definitely needs love (that being said most of the
crime seems to come from Key Inn not the aging apartments)
I was watching last night's meeting. One of the staff was referring
to mixed use parking and when it's managed well, it works well.
We need the city to protect the residents from future
mismanagement; we can not presume that the businesses that lease
in that center will close at 5 when folks get home from work or that
management will be willing or able to prevent the parking plague
at nearly all the condo complexes in Tustin.
The challenge with virtually all of the proposals that I saw at
meetings long ago was the traffic issues, parking and design.
There have got to be better uses for that land that will not add
another signal in the less than half mile stretch and dump hundreds
of cars at the end of the funnel with a tiny hole (the onramp to the
freeway). The planner referencing Up last night presented a perfect
picture of what we all see, virtually everything in that area is single
and two story housing - anything taller will be out of place.
I am a little curious sometimes if all of the community meetings
and meetings seeking input are just for the legality of it all. When I
attended the meetings at the high school and community center last
year my neighbors and I felt as though the only input that was
being absorbed was the input that the developers could spin to use
to their advantage.
Thanks for responding - it was a pleasant surprise. :)
Chuck Rogers I'm sure that's true; but if all the city is getting from
CalTrans is lip service in the way of poor timing of lights, it's
irresponsible to make it worse by overpopulating the area
Marcia Bartosik Moreno Agree with you 100% Chuck.
Darcie Canino I actually wouldn't mind a reasonably sized
housing development, maybe two stories, with ample parking. But
these five story monstrous projects are another sort of eyesore,
notwithstanding all the adverse community impacts. Or it would be
awesome if TUSD could buy the property. THS's parking lot is
woefully undersized.
Tina Weirens Craig Weirens
Joan Cumbo I've been to many council meeting for this city for
over 20 years one thing I've learned is that every time you think
that voicing your opinions they have already made up there minds
and there is nothing you can do to change there mind on their vote
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Julie Crowell Ding ding dingAVO
John Nielsen Not True
Amanda Barringer What kind of development? Is it rental
properties or privately owned units. That will make a difference in
how it is received. We don't need more rental property in that area.
Do we know how the price range of the units?
Rita Schrank And yet the proposed senior facility on Newport
near 17th where there would really be less cars is denied.
Marcia Bartosik Moreno Rita
Schrank: http://www.foothillssentry.com/oc-planning-
commission...
FOOTHILLSSENTRY.COM
OC Planning Commission approves compromise plan...
Rita Schrank Marcia Bartosik Moreno I didn't know this. Thanks
for the info.
ChristyLee Lee Maybe we should put back the other on-ramp that
was on Newport?
Kenzie Morrow Bosma Off topic (sort of) but does anyone else
see an AMAZING amount of people running the red light at the 5-
S Red Hill offramp? I mean, as we make the left tum ON to Red
Hill from the freeway off ramp the traffic going south runs the red.
It's crazy how many times I've almost been hit and I don't
understand why? This new proposal sure won't help that
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John Nielsen I have made that walk many times over the years
ChristyLee Lee John I am not surprised my friend. So you know
the temperature is so much cooler there because of the trees. We
are quite lucky that we do have parks and trees. We do need more
groves.
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John Nielsen I knew Matt Nisson for several years and he was
kind enough to let me into his Orange Grove. place has always
been a landmark to me.
ChristyLee Lee John me as well. I met them when I fust lived
here in tustin in the 80's. Their peacock got out and running around
Redhill. Thank you so much for being involved. We are lucky to
have you as part of our community.
Cherie Bennett Seiler Just what we need, more cars and traffic.
Guy BaI110 John - How is this Tustin city illustration not the
wrong information you're claiming? Have you ever driven through
Santa Ana to see all the wonderful high-density housing they put in
the city (during the'80s and'90s) that are now slums? Can't happen
here? Well that's what the SA Council said back then too.
Sometimes people in power don't learn. Ask Scott Reeksten, on the
Tustin staff, how bad Santa Ana was during those years. I lived
there trying to fight the blight and overcrowding and failing
neighborhood values (as a resident) while he worked for their
neighborhood improvement office. (We lost and we both moved
out of the city.)
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Mitch DeBenedetto Isn't Scott Reeksten part of the problem here?
Chuck Rogers The problem is the fact that the council is only
listening to folks with too many letters after their names; they can
study stats and find great solutions on paper.
A mechanic once shared his experience with me ... his experience
was the higher the degree the less common sense remained. I tend
to agree.
Mitch DeBenedetto "proclaiming themselves to be wise, they
became fools instead"
Marcia Bartosik Moreno The truth of it is that the developers
have the eats of the staff and council. I'm not suggesting anything
illegal or inappropriate is going on, it's just that access is easier for
them. Most residents don't make appointments with staff or council
members so guess who gets listened to? By the time a project gets
to public meeting its pretty much decided. As Chuck Rogers said,
the developers have the money and staff to fund studies which look
great on paper and staff and council buy into it.
John Nielsen Guy trying to compare Tustin and Santa Ana are like
apples & Oranges
the will have to board up vacant units making the blight worse. I
don't understand what Tustin Planning Commission is thinking.
Yes, it would be great to beautify the area. Did you know that they
'forgot' to even consider Caltrans plans to expand the 5 and its
impact onRed Hill? There is a major issue with big picture
planning...
Kathryn McGovern Tapie Did they discuss the downtown area.
Last I heard they wanted something like the Anaheim Packing
District to go in there.
-Sandi BeeSandi and 102 others joined Tustin Buzz within the
last two weeks. Give them a warm welcome into your
community! N00000!
Kathryn McGovern Tapie Yesssssssss
Bryan Biehl No thanks.... go build in another city
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Danielle Murray Stop building!!! No more residential housing
needed.
Bobby Espinoza Not according to Tustin Legacy.
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Sandi BeeSandi and 102 others joined Tustin Buzz within the
last two weeks. Give them a warm welcome into your
community! The District is already crowded and traffic has
increased in that area.The buildings are hideous. I hate to be a
NIMBY, but overcrowding is not what we want in Tustin.
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Darcie Cancino I just drove down Katella between the 5 and State
College and was shocked at all the huge new apartment buildings.
They are awful looking but more suited for the area. NOT on Red
Hill in Tustin. But the cumulative impact of all these thousands of
new units has to be devastating to traffic and already scarce natural
resources.
Brett Olivier Are they talking about The District or Old Town?
Leane Kahrs Neither - Red Hill
Brett Olivier It would be nice to have a master plan for Old Town.
Tired of looking at dirt lots around Old Town.
Kathryn McGovern Tapie Pm referring to Old Town with the
Packing House type area. It would help the business's in old town a
lot getting people down there spending money and supporting all
the local business
Sandi BeeSandi and 102 others joined Tustin Buzz within the
last two weeks. Give them a warm welcome into your
community! But, it would completely destroy the feeling of Old
Town.
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Anne Miller Lukas OMG This is absolutely INSANE. They don't
have enough building at the District? They are totally ruining
Tustin. We can't drive on the roads now. It's horrible. Certainly not
the bedroom community we moved into 35 years ago. It is s000
very sad. 609
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Gwen Ferguson
Please click on "Public Hearing" above for info about a new 500
unit 4-5 story housing development proposed on Red Hill near
Tustin High. Speak up if you're concerned. The hearing is August
14.
"I strongly oppose the proposed number of stories and high
density. Red Hill is already heavily impacted with traffic and
would become a quagmire if this plan is approved as is. Please
don't let developers ruin this area. I suggest a two story maximum
height, which used to be Tustin's policy, and lower density, or a
different use."
Gwen Ferguson
48 year resident of Tustin
Karen Kohler Absolutely No. This not good for Tustin and
especially those who live in that area. The impact is too huge for
anything but driving residents out of Tustin. 49@
Stuart Jackson Tustin isn't Santa Ana for a very good reason.
There's already a planning process for zoning variances on a case-
by-case basis. If this is to make the on-again/off-again assisted
living project at 13800 Red Hill Ave. let them pay for it for their
project instead of opening the door to other developers because of
Karen Kohler Sounds like it's just added housing. No mention of
assisted living.
Stuart Jackson There were some assisted living units with the
senior housing development. Who ever buys the land/project
would have those approvals grandfathered in