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7:02 p.m.
Given
All present
Staff present
None
Approved
Adopted
Resolution No. 3938
and Resolution No.
3939, as amended
ITEM #1
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 22, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Doug Holland, Assistant City Attorney
Doug Anderson, Senior Program Manager-Transportation
Terry Lutz, Principal Engineer
Karen Peterson, Senior Planner
Scott Reekstin, Senior Planner
Minoo Ashabi, Associate Planner
Matt West, Associate Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
1.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 25, 2004,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Menard, to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARING
2.
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 2004-256, DESIGN REVIEW
04-023, AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 04-028
REQUESTING: 1) APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP 2004-256 TO MERGE TWO PARCELS
TO CREATE A 0.68 ACRE PARCEL; 2) APPROVAL OF
DESIGN REVIEW 04-023 FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT,
ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, AND LANDSCAPE
DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED 7,400 SQUARE FOOT
RETAIL BUILDING; AND, 3) APPROVAL OF
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 04-028 FOR OUTDOOR
SEATING WITHIN THE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL,
PARKING OVERLAY DISTRICT (C-2, P) ZONING
DISTRICT.
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7:03 p.m.
Ashabi
Nielsen
Anderson
Nielsen
Brett Blanchard,
1450 EI Camino
Real, representing
Makena
John Kerenyi, Kimley-
Horn & Associates
Nielsen
RECOMMENDATION
That the Planning Commission:
1. Adopt Resolution No. 3938 recommending that the
City Council approve Tentative Parcel Map 2004-256;
and
2. Adopt Resolution No. 3939 approving Design Review
04-023 for site development, architectural design, and
landscape design of the proposed 7,400 square foot
retail building; and, Conditional Use permit 04-028 for
outdoor seating.
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report, noting the change to Condition 6.6 of
Resolution No. 3939 as follows:
"No loading or delivery vehicles shall park on the public right-of-
way. Truck deliveries shall be restricted to non-peak hours and
prohibited during the hours of 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. and 4:00
p.m. to 6:00 p.m. to avoid potential conflicts. Any modifications
of these hours shall be approved in writing by the Community
Development Director."
Asked if the bulk of the trips generated are expected to be during
the non-peak hours.
Indicated that issue would be addressed by the applicant.
Invited the applicant to the podium.
Stated he, Jeff Bergsma, Team Design, and John Kerenyi,
Kimley-Horn & Associates, were all available to answer any
questions; indicated staff worked very hard to help bring this
project forward; and, noted the applicant was in agreement with
all the conditions of approval.
Responding to the specific question regarding trip generation,
indicated that his firm used a formula based on a national
database relating to land uses to compile the trip generation,
which indicated only 10 percent of the AM hours and 10 percent
of the PM hours would be peak hours.
Suggested that, if the retail changes in composition, the traffic
patterns could also change.
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Floyd
Added the existing situation causes some conflicts in the AM
hours.
Mr. Kerenyi
Noted that the coffee house is considered separately; if there is a
large amount of traffic associated with that use, these numbers
will change; clarified that the traffic study is focused in nature,
and neither he nor City staff felt this project would have a
regional impact; the purpose of the study was to collect data on
traffic conditions in the vicinity of the project and forecast how
traffic would operate with the project in place; no credit was given
to the prior land use; specialized analysis was provided for the
ramp meter and the northbound freeway ramp intersection;
based on discussing access with the staff, only a right-in, right-
out access to each driveway was suggested; the southbound U-
turn from Newport was originally allowed but has now been re-
implemented by Public Works plans; access will be difficult
without a U-turn option to allow access to the site from
northbound Newport Avenue, and the applicant would request
that option be reconsidered by City staff.
Asked if the current congestion during peak hours at the
northbound left-turn onto EI Camino Real was considered in the
traffic study.
Menard
7:22 p.m.
The Public Hearing closed.
Floyd
Asked if this is the same developer that developed the site
across from U-Haul.
Director
Answered in the affirmative.
Floyd
Asked if a traffic study was completed for that project.
Director
Replied in the affirmative.
Floyd
Stated his concern was that this project may create traffic issues
similar to the existing Makena site.
Director
Indicated that the City also receives complaints regarding that
site, which are more often use related versus traffic complaints;
the developer is working to alleviate the problems on that site;
the only option the City has regarding the Makena proposal is to
impose the off-street parking standards and restrict related
usage.
Floyd
Stated he has no other concerns and supports the project.
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Pontious
Menard
Lee
Nielsen
Adopted
Resolution No. 3937
West
Louis Marlin,
President of the Board
of Directors of the
Tustin Ranch Estates
Homeowners
Association
Stated she has no real concerns with the project; while it does
not match what the City hoped for at the site, it is better than
what is there now.
Indicated he has concerns regarding the existing traffic problems
but gave the project his support.
Stated he agrees with the other Commissioners; the overall
aesthetics will be an improvement over what is there now; as
long as the traffic does not create a problem, he supports the
project.
Stated he had mixed emotions; while this looks like a nice project
for that area, there are traffic concerns which it is hoped staff will
monitor closely; he is in favor of the project.
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Floyd, to adopt
Resolution Nos. 3938 and 3939, with the modification provided
by staff. Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS
3.
DESIGN REVIEW 04-007 A REQUEST TO
CONSTRUCT A 199 SQUARE FOOT GUARD HOUSE
AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE TUSTIN RANCH
ESTATES. THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE
EAST TUSTIN SPECIFIC PLAN (ESTATE DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL) ZONING DISTRICT.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No.
3937 approving Design Review 04-007.
Presented the staff report.
Thanked staff for the assistance they provided on this project;
indicated the guard gate will add to the area since it is a very nice
building that will fit in well with the neighborhood; staff's support
was appreciated.
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Menard, to adopt
Resolution No. 3937. Motion carried 5-0.
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4.
DENSITY BONUS WORKSHOP.
The workshop is intended to provide the Planning
Commission with an oveNiew of how the incentives for
the development of affordable housing and the density
bonus law applies to the City of Tustin. Staff will provide
a PowerPoint presentation at the meeting.
Director
Presented the PowerPoint presentation, explaining that even
though the law may change after the first of the year, a workshop
was necessary because projects to which current laws apply
may be coming before the Commission.
Nielsen
Thanked staff for the workshop; and, asked if this workshop was
also provided to the City Council.
Director
Answered that the workshop was provided to the Council before
it became apparent that the new law will take effect.
5.
REVISED MASSAGE REGULATIONS AND APPEAL
PROVISIONS.
The Community Development Department in coordination
with the City Attorney has identified the need to further
revise the City's massage regulations and the associated
appeal provisions and is providing substantive revisions.
Reekstin
Presented the staff report.
Floyd
Asked if any of the 31 applicants referred to in the report took the
National Certification Examination.
Reekstin
Answered that only one applicant had passed the test.
Floyd
Questioned whether there is an actual requirement that
applicants take the national examination (versus another type of
exam).
Reekstin
Responded that some cities, such as Newport Beach, administer
their own test and do not require the national test.
Floyd
Asked if there is a reason for the increase in these requests to
the City of Tustin.
Reekstin
Indicated that, in addition to the increased population in the area
and the general growth of the profession, the fact that the City's
regulations have not been updated recently may be a factor.
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Nielsen
Reekstin
Nielsen
Reekstin
Nielsen
Director
Floyd
Director
Reekstin
Pontious
Reekstin
Floyd
Staff
Nielsen
Director reported
Asked if these applicants are found more in spas or massage
only establishments. .
Answered the applications are dispersed among chiropractic
offices, salons, and massage establishments.
Asked if the applications seem to be for a certain area of the
City.
Answered in the negative.
Indicated the changes look good; and, asked if there have been
issues with these uses.
Indicated there have been some problems; the City wishes to
appropriately regulate these individuals.
Asked if there would be a City test in addition to the national
testing.
Answered the City plans no additional test at this time.
Added that the ordinance would give the City the option of
requiring testing.
Asked if taking the test is difficult.
Indicated there is a well-organized website; the test is given
frequently; anyone well trained in massage would be able to
pass the test.
Asked if current operators would be grandfathered in.
Answered in the negative.
Indicated this ordinance is an important step in the right direction.
STAFF CONCERNS
6.
REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE NOVEMBER 1
AND 15, 2004, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
The City Council held a special meeting on November 1, 2004,
during which the framework for the master development of Tustin
Legacy was presented.
At the November 15, 2004, City Council meeting, the potential
annexation of the 24-acre parcel at Seventeenth Street and
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Lee
Menard
Pontious
Floyd
Floyd continued
Nielsen
8:07 p.m.
Tustin Avenue was considered, and the Council voted to take a
neutral position on this issue.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
No concerns.
Thanked the American Legion for the Tustin Veterans Day
Parade.
Wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.
Thanked staff for their work on the various reports.
Indicated he enjoyed seeing Commissioner Menard with his Boy
Scout troop in the Veterans Day Parade.
Wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.
Added his thanks to staff for their diligent work.
Indicated he still has concerns with the congestion problems at
the 1-5 and SR-55; and, added that he is not sure if that is a
Caltrans or a Public Works issue.
Added his wishes for a Happy Thanksgiving.
ADJOURNMENT
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is
scheduled for Monday, December 13, 2004, at 7:00 p.m. in the
Clifton Miller Community Center at 300 Centennial Way.
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