HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 06-27-05
7:00 p.m.
Given
All present
Staff present
None
Approved
Adopted Resolution
No. 3977 and
Resolution No.
3978, as modified
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 27, 2005
CAll TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Dana Ogdon, Assistant Community Development Director
Jason Retterer, Deputy City Attorney
Justina Willkom, Senior Planner
Matt West, Associate Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
1.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JUNE 13, 2005, PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING.
It was moved by Floyd, seconded by Menard, to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 3-0. lee and Pontious
abstained.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2.
USE DETERMINATION 04-002, CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT 04-019, AND DESIGN REVIEW 04-018
REQUESTING A USE DETERMINATION TO ESTABLISH
INDOOR, ONE-ON-ONE FITNESS TRAINING AS A
CONDITIONAllY PERMITTED USE IN THE
COMMERCIAL DISTRICT OF THE FIRST STREET
SPECIFIC PLAN AND TO CONDITIONAllY PERMITTHE
USE AT 155 WEST FIRST STREET. THE APPLICANT IS
ALSO REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO DEMOLISH
AN EXISTING 1,710 SQUARE FOOT AUTOMOTIVE
SERVICE BUilDING AND CONSTRUCT A NEW 2,111
SQUARE FOOT BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE THE
PROPOSED USE.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission:
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1. Adopt Resolution No. 3977 approving Use Determination
04-002 to establish indoor, one-on-one fitness training as
a conditionally permitted use in the Commercial as
Primary District of the First Street Specific Plan (FSSP);
and,
2. Adopt Resolution No. 3978 approving Conditional Use
Permit 04-019 and Design Review 04-018 to
conditionally permit indoor, one-on-one fitness training at
155 West First Street and allow the demolition of a 1,710
square foot automotive service building and permit
construction of a new 2,111 square foot building to
accommodate the proposed use.
7:02 p.m.
The Public Hearing opened.
West
Presented the staff report.
Floyd
Asked what business is next door to this site.
West
Replied that the business is Surfas Furriers.
Floyd
Asked if parking is available at the furrier site.
West
Responded that question could be asked of the owner of that
business, who is present this evening.
Pontious
Suggested it is not necessary to provide disabled parking for a
fitness use; asked if that space could be changed; and, asked if on-
street parking would be available.
West
Answered that the disabled parking counts in the parking
requirements; and, noted staff did not review the on-street parking.
Pontious
Stated she understood that but would feel more comfortable if there
were on-street parking to compensate for the fact that a disabled
space is required.
Nielsen
Added that he visited the site today; and, asked if staff was aware
of on-street parking requirements.
West
Indicated he was not aware of any restricted on-street parking;
based on the site plan, there would probably be two parking spaces
on the street in front of the business.
Director
Noted the disabled access cannot be eliminated on this site; there
might be one space on First Street and one on the side street that
could be used but ænnot be counted toward the required number.
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Menard
Added there is also parking across First Street at Peppertree Park;
and, noted that he spoke to Michael-Ann Pevehouse, one of the
adjacent owners at Healthy Lifestyles Weight Management.
Asked about the designation C on Resolution No. 3978 that was
not listed on the source codes.
West
Stated that would be revised; the C is provided during the
application process and is changed to a number when it becomes
part of a resolution.
Menard
Noted that on page 6 in Condition 3.3 "first" class should be
changed to "prior" class to clarify there will be more than two
classes per day.
Lee
Asked if it would be possible to consider tandem parking.
West
Responded that the City does not allow tandem parking; all spaces
must be free and accessible.
Lee
Asked if there might be fire issues regarding the back-out turning
radius.
Menard
Suggested that the trash enclosures could be moved to the wall
where the disabled parking stall is located and reduce the 27 -foot
drive aisle; this would help pull in the compact and standard stalls
that are adjacent to the alley; if the City allows, perhaps parking
could be provided off the alley and off a driveway.
Director
Indicated that staff explored those options; none was desirable to
the applicant and owner; tandem parking would create a precedent;
the applicant wanted to consider the desirability and livability for the
adjacent residential properties; this site might qualify for variance
opportunities given the size, shape, and other issues associated
with this unique site.
Menard
Noted that the staff report indicates the proposed parking would be
in compliance with City Code.
Director
Agreed that the parking will be acceptable for this use; reuse could
be an issue and will have to be considered on a case-by-case
basis; a variance could be considered at that point in time, if
necessary.
Nielsen
Asked for the current height of the structure existing on the site.
West
Stated the current building is 16 feet high, which is two feet lower
than the proposed building, except for the rear portion that will be
higher.
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Nielsen
West
Menard
Nielsen
Margo Mavridis,
representing the
applicant
Menard
Ms. Mavridis
Mr. Menard
Ms. Mavridis
Tina Surfas,
Surfas Furriers
Menard
Asked how the setbacks compare with the furrier company's.
Stated he did not know the precise setback; the new structure will
be closer to First Street than Surfas Furriers.
Indicated that it appears setback aligns with the new construction
on the opposite side of the furrier.
Invited the applicant to the lectern.
Stated the applicant agrees with the report as presented; it is the
applicant's desire to be a good neighbor to the commercial and
residential elements; alley access would not be beneficial to the
residential property owners and, therefore, will not be used.
Indicated he is very excited about this project on a corner that has
been vacant a long time; the proposed building is a clean style of
architecture; since this structure will be next to an intricately
detailed building in Old Town, it would be nice to design something
to blend in, such as: something with less stucco; elimination of the
standing seam roof to offset the costs and make it a wash for
construction; add an area of veneer brick at the top underneath the
cornice to match the structure being built on the opposite side of
the furrier; make the trash structure an integral part of the building.
Asked if Commissioner Menard was suggesting squaring off the
top.
Stated he was suggesting removing the standing seam, having a
step, and dressing up the front of the building with a band of veneer
to reduce the mass of the stucco.
Indicated that Commissioner Menard's suggestions would be taken
into consideration.
Stated her husband could not be at the meeting due to being
activated to duty at the Pentagon; their major concerns are: the
visibility of their property; parking; the building finish and the colors;
the trees planted in front of their sign; access to the alley is
important for deliveries to their building and is therefore not
available for parking; the front setback was an issue when they built
their structure; now it seems the City is allowing the buildings on
either side of them to be closer to the street and higher; it seems
the City is not using the same regulations and standards that were
applied to their site; the Econo Lube lot does need to be developed,
but the City should first consider all the above issues.
Thanked Mrs. Surfas for coming forward; and, asked her if the bin
at the rear of the Surfas building is permanent.
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Mrs. Surfas
Menard
Mrs. Surfas
David Grant,
130 North C Street,
Tustin
Floyd
Mr. Grant
Floyd
Mr. Grant
Floyd
Mr. Grant
Geoff Frost,
133 C Street,
Tustin
Kris Massaro
owner, Starting
Line Fitness
Floyd
Menard
Stated the bin has been there for a long time.
Asked what the bin is used for.
Indicated it is a storage bin.
Stated he lives near the location and is concerned about the
business hours since his young son's bedroom is very close to the
parking area; the parking is very tight on C Street, and this site will
make the problem worse; putting the entrance to the building on the
First Street side would seem a better option.
Asked Mr. Grant if he lived in the same location when Econo Lube
was the tenant and whether or not he remembered what their
business hours and noise factors were.
Indicated he was not sure but thought the business opened at 8:00
a.m. on weekdays and 9:00 a.m. on weekends.
Stated his recollection that the residents were concerned about the
traffic and the noise during the time that business was in operation.
Noted that the residents are excited to have something new on this
site and have the residential values increase as a result of this use.
Asked if Mr. Grant was satisfied with the business that is being
proposed.
Indicated in the affirmative.
Stated his concern was the parking; however, he likes the building
design and business planned for the site.
Stated that she understands the residents' concerns; noise has
never been a problem for her business since music is not played
loudly; at her present location, her neighbors are very close and
noise has never been a problem; most of the time it will just be
three employees and three clients in the building; she and her
trainers will utilize the parking at Peppertree Park to alleviate the
situation.
Suggested that it would be a good compromise to have employees
park near the Park.
Thanked Ms. Massaro for speaking; and, asked her where her
business is located now.
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Ms. Massaro
Stated she is at another location in Old Town.
Menard
Indicated he is pleased that Ms. Massaro chose this site and chose
to stay in Old Town.
Director
Reiterated that the parking is in compliance with the Code
requirements for the number of individuals expected to be on-site at
any given time; when the furrier proposal was considered, staff
provided some relief administratively based on the warehouse use
versus storage which is typically not done; the hours of operation
are within the Planning Commission's discretion; there are
conditions of approval in the resolution providing for further staff
consideration if there are complaints regarding impacts on the
surrounding property; the hours can be modified this evening or the
Planning Commission can grant approval, giving the applicant the
opportunity to ensure there will not be an impact. Language
modifying the conditions was suggested for the Commission's
consideration as follows:
1. Condition 3.3 could be modified to replace "first" with "prior."
2. Condition 1.1 could be modified to add a sentence at the
end: "Prior to submittal into plan check for the Planning
Commission's direction, the applicant shall eliminate the
standing seam roof, integrate the trash enclosure into the
overall architecture, and reduce the stucco mass."
Menard
Stressed that his suggestions are not intended to increase the cost
of the project, but for the project to blend in better with Old Town;
this use will be a vast improvement over what is there now.
7:45 p.m.
Floyd
The Public Hearing closed.
Stated his support of the project and Commissioner Menard's
recommendations as long as no significant cost is imposed;
understands the applicant's need to start at 6:00 a.m. and also
understands the concerns of the residents but will take the
applicant's word that noise will not be a problem; staff has the
option to bring this back to the Commission if problems arise; it will
be good to be rid of the blight on that corner and welcome this new
business at that location.
Pontious
Noted that when she first started on the Planning Commission, the
First Street Specific Plan (FSSP) was being considered; for many
years, nothing happened that was within the goals and objectives
of that plan; it is wonderful to see a non-automotive use project
coming forward that does fit; the parking concerns should be
alleviated by the owner and employees parking elsewhere; she
supports the project, with the modifications requested by
Commissioner Menard.
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Lee
Stated his full support of the design, with the modification that the
trash enclosure will be concealed.
Menard
Asked staff about the reason for the setback at the adjacent
building and whether or not there are requirements in the FSSP for
buildings be a certain distance from the sidewalk.
Director
Responded that the FSSP encourages the buildings to be more
pedestrian oriented and brought to the sidewalk; staff proposed this
orientation to Surfas Furriers, but the applicant chose the existing
design.
Menard
Thanked Mrs. Surfas, Mr. Grant, and Mr. Frost for letting the
Planning Commission know they feel about these projects; public
comments are important to the process; the hours of operation are
in conformance; the parking is in compliance; the setbacks comply
with the FSSP; the building will not be any closer or any more of an
obstacle than the current building; therefore, the Planning
Commission cannot make changes to those conditions; this is a
perfect use for the site; he supports the project and hopes the
business will be successful at this new location.
Nielsen
Stated he also favors the project; the shape and size of this
property creates a unique design problem, and he applauds staff
and the applicant for their efforts; while he understands the
concerns that were expressed, this will be an excellent use and
ideal solution for that tight site, considering what was there before
and what could have been requested; the only concern would be
that the signage for Surfas Furriers should not be obscured by the
landscaping that is proposed; the signage should be visible from
First Street heading east.
West
Indicated that staff could address that issue.
Menard
Asked that a line-of-sight study be done before removing any trees.
Pontious
Agreed with Commissioner Menard; a tree will not obstruct the view
as bushes might.
Nielsen
Asked that staff make any modification necessary to ensure that
the Surfas Furrier sign will be visible from First Street; stated his
agreement with Commissioner Menard regarding the building
design; and, asked if the applicant agreed with the suggested
modifications.
Pontious
Suggested that the new language can provide for flexibility that
would allow staff to work with the applicant on the design.
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Director
Stated that there is enough leeway in the condition of approval to
allow for staff approval of minor modifications.
Nielsen
Asked the applicant to respond.
Ms. Mavridis
Indicated the only concession creating difficulty would be the
request to make the structure single story; two stories are
necessary for the office space to be upstairs to allow the space
necessary for parking; taking the diagonal off the roof line would be
problematic for supervision from the office space; the workout
space must be visible from the office.
Nielsen
Suggested the applicant and architect could work with staff to
resolve that issue.
It was moved by Pontious, seconded by Menard, to adopt
Resolution No. 3977 and Resolution No. 3978, as modified. Motion
carried 5-0.
None
REGULAR BUSINESS
STAFF CONCERNS
3.
REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE JUNE 20, 2005,
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Director
Stated the City Council held public hearings and approved the two
Tentative Maps for conveyance purposes related to the Lennar
project; Lennar has been working with City staff to fulfill the
conditions of approval; the Final Maps will be going to the City
Council at the next meeting.
Noted the City Council appealed the La Sera! Baby Jun! conditional
use permit; a public hearing will be scheduled for the City Council's
second meeting in July.
Menard
Asked what the reason was for the appeal.
Director
Indicated the City Council had concerns regarding the potential that
it may become a night club.
Floyd
Asked what the specific City Council concerns were.
Director
Responded that the concerns were generally related to operations,
the hours of operation, cover charges, etc.
Pontious
Suggested that the policy issues involved would warrant further
consideration by the City Council.
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Director
Commissioners
Lee
Nathan
Floyd
Pontious
Asked the Commissioners to determine the best date for a tour of
The Legacy, beginning at 5:30 p.m.
Indicated the first meeting in August would be best for everyone.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Thanked staff for this evening's report.
Thanked staff for their hard work on the report.
Congratulated Linda Jennings and Kenn Hobson as the Tustin
Area Woman and Man of the Year for 2004.
Congratulated Mary Hill on her election as Chamber of Commerce
President.
Reminded everyone that Concerts in the Park take place every
Wednesday.
Thanked Tustin News for the wonderful article regarding his
AIDS/LifeCycle4 ride from June 5-11; acknowledged three other
people who rode with him: Jim Tyhurst, Gary Drake, and Josh
Levezow, who were with him through the entire experience and
deserved equal recognition. Commissioner Menard further stated
that he "could not have done the ride without the support of these
three great friends."
Thanked staff for the nice job on the presentation.
Congratulated Kenn Hobson and Linda Jennings, both of whom are
outstanding individuals and wonderful citizens of Tustin.
Encouraged everyone to attend and bring their friends to the
concerts.
Reminded everyone of the July Fourth fireworks display at Tustin
High School.
Asked that tonight's meeting be adjourned in memory of John
Dobak who passed way this week; he is survived by his wife,
Susan, and both were active citizens within the City; services will
be held at Saddleback Mortuary at 1 :00 p.m. this Saturday.
Wished everyone a happy Fourth of July.
Noted that she recently visited Columbus, Ohio, and was struck by
the lack of architectural features in the housing; what is being done
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in Tustin compares favorably with the less creative developments
she observed during her travels throughout the Midwest.
Nielsen
Encouraged everyone to attend the Fourth of July Fireworks where
he will again be working the parking facilities.
Congratulated Linda Jennings and Kenn Hobson; and, noted that
Ms. Jennings is a former Planner Commissioner and Chairperson
of the Commission.
Thanked staff for their work on tonight's project, which is a tough
site.
8:08 p.m.,
In Memory of
John Dobak
ADJOURNMENT
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission is scheduled
for Monday, July 11, 2005, at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council
Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
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Elizabeth A. Binsack
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