HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC Minutes 02-26-07
7:00 p.m.
Given
Staff present
None
Approved
Adopted revised
Resolution No.
4051
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 26, 2007
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Present:
Chair Floyd
Chair Pro Tem Puckett
Commissioner Kozak, Lee, and Nielsen
Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
Jason Retterer, Deputy City Attorney
Dana Ogdon, Assistant Community Development Director
Justina Willkom, Senior Planner
Chad Ortlieb, Associate Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - FEBRUARY 12, 2007,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Kozak, to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARING
2. CONTINUED APPEAL OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DIRECTOR'S DECISION TO DISALLOW THE USE OF
FIBERCEMENT SIDING ON A DETACHED TWO-CAR
GARAGE WITH SECOND-STORY GAME ROOM THAT IS
CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON A
PROPERTY IMPROVED WITH AN "A"-RATED DWELLING
IN THE CULTURAL RESOURCE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
THE PROJECT WAS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT
AND APPROVED WITH REDWOOD SIDING BY ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR ACTION 05-007. THIS PROJECT IS
LOCATED AT 200 SOUTH A STREET IN THE SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (R-1) WITH CULTURAL
RESOURCE (CR) OVERLAY DISTRICT ZONING
DISTRICT.
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7:02 p.m.
Ortlieb
Nielsen
Floyd
Ortlieb
Ms. Young
Ortlieb
Ms. Young
Floyd
Nielsen
Ortlieb
Bill Hankins,
220 South A Street
7:08 p.m.
Retterer
Nielsen
RECOMMENDATION:
Pursuant to the Planning Commission's direction at the
February 12, 2007, meeting, staff has included Resolution
No. 4051 to reverse the Community Development Director's
decision disallowing the use of fibercement siding on a
detached garage structure approved by Zoning Administrator
Action 05-007.
The Public Hearing opened.
Presented the staff report.
Asked for a closer look at the fibercement sample.
Suggested that the only noticeable difference is the lack of beveling
on the fibercement.
Stated that one of the primary differences is the rounded edge;
there is also a gradation on the redwood siding where the wood is a
little thinner on one end than the other.
Asked if the sample was the second or the first that she provided.
Answered that it was the second sample.
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Stated she would have preferred the sample with paint on it had
been provided.
Indicated the sample provided was fine.
Asked for clarification whether or not the color scheme was the
same.
Answered in the affirmative.
Commented that his observation of the process and outcome of this
appeal was a good learning experience for him; the appellant and
staff are to be commended.
The Public Hearing closed.
Stated that, since two of the Commissioners were absent from the
last meeting, it might not be appropriate for them to participate in a
decision on this item.
Indicated that he had reviewed the minutes and spoken to the
applicant and felt well informed as a result.
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Lee
Confirmed that he had also read the minutes, spoken with the
applicant, and visited the property.
Floyd
Thanked the City Attorney for raising the question.
Nielsen
Indicated that he had a discussion with Ms. Young today, drove by
the site over the weekend, and had a conversation with a neighbor
who was not in favor of the project.
Retterer
Stated that, if both Commissioners felt properly informed, it would
be acceptable for them to participate in the decision.
Nielsen
Noted that after looking at the material, reading the detailed
minutes, and talking to the two individuals, both for an against, his
feeling was that the issue came down to where the line should be
drawn regarding the Guidelines in the Overlay District; since the
garage structure is not the primary structure or on the Historical
Survey, it would seem to be a judgment call as to how the
standards are applied; this will be an ancillary structure that
maintains the spirit of the Overlay District, is setback 67 feet from
the street, and 24 feet from the original structure, the difference will
not be noticeable and therefore an exception should be allowed.
Suggested that it would be a good idea for the Planning
Commission to review the Cultural Resources Overlay District,
perhaps in a workshop, including the rules and regulations that are
in effect for the residential homeowners in that District either by
legal obligation or by voluntary participation.
Lee
Stated he had a telephone conversation with the appellant and also
drove by the property; complimented Ms. Young for keeping the
property in such good condition; and, added his support for the use
of the fibercement which blends well with the original structure.
Kozak
Indicated that he supports the action; thanked staff for bringing
back the alternative resolution; stated the minutes fairly represent
the discussion; and, added that the intent of the Guidelines is being
met.
Agreed that arranging for further study of the Overlay District by the
Planning Commission should occur; however, it will be necessary
to first understand the rules and regulations of the Overlay District
within the context of the Design Guidelines and the City's Zoning
Code and also the work plan of the Historical Resources
Commission, the Fiscal Year 2007-08 Budget, and the proposed
realignment of committees and commissions. With those facts in
mind, he would suggest to his fellow Commissioners that the
Commission request staff to report back with the topical items that
would need to be considered in making a decision regarding an
update to provide a better understanding of what would be involved
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in the review and also to help prepare the Commissioners for such
a decision.
Puckett
Indicated this result is a good example of staff and government
working together to reach a good solution; and, complimented Ms.
Young on her persistence, perseverance, and the fine job she did in
pursuing this action; this is one of the prettiest homes in Old Town,
and this addition being 67 feet back will enhance the area.
Floyd
Agreed that the appellant has done a fine job on the original
structure and that it is one of the nicest homes that Tustin is
fortunate to have in Old Town; the Guidelines were created when
Commissioner Puckett was on the City Councilor Planning
Commission more than ten years ago; at that time such products
were not available; the Guidelines need to be revised to determine
what will be allowed in the future and how to avoid opening the
floodgates for other projects; it is important that Tustin change with
the times and consider the use of new products in the Overlay
District; a Design Guidelines workshop as soon as possible would
be appropriate.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Lee, to adopt Resolution
No. 4051. Motion carried 5-0.
Director
Noted that this approval is an appealable item; the appeal period
ends one week from today unless a member of the City Council
appeals the item; in that event, the appeal period would end a week
after the Council's March 6th meeting.
None
REGULAR BUSINESS
STAFF CONCERNS
REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE FEBRUARY 20, 2007,
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
Director
Stated the Assistant Director would comment regarding Hangar 29.
Indicated that the City Council asked staff to look at possible
opportunities for minimizing impacts on the City's resources
specifically relating to City Boards, Commissions, and Committees.
City staff researched the issue and made a recommendation to the
City Council regarding the Parks & Recreation Commission, the
Planning Commission, Historic Resource Commission, and the
Tustin Community Foundation.
Staff recommended that the Parks & Recreation Commission would
serve as a liaison with oversight and/or coordination with various
groups within the community, such as the Senior Advisory Board,
the Youth & Adult Sports Facilities Association, Tustin Pride, the
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Tustin Community Foundation, and Special Events Committees.
The Commission would also be renamed the Community Services
Commission.
The Planning Commission would accept the responsibilities of the
Historic Resource Committee.
The Tustin Community Foundation would accept the responsibilities
of the Community Development In-House Citizens' Participation
Committee. The Tustin Community Foundation would make a
recommendation related to the Public Service Category Projects for
the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) dollars which
are allocated by the City to various community groups.
The Historic Resource Committee has a work program that is
examined annually, which the Planning Commission may now be
doing. The Planning Commission may want to look at what the
work program would be.
The City Council recommended the initiation of an ordinance and
proceedings that would include the Planning Commission, the City
Council, or the Director; there is a process that has to be gone
through; public hearings would be held allowing individuals to speak
before the Commission and appropriate recommendations made;
the City Council requested that the Planning Commission initiate an
ordinance that would consolidate that function; staff will be bringing
that ordinance to the Commission in March.
Nielsen Asked if the ordinance will include a recommendation to the
Council.
Director Answered in the affirmative; and, added that an ordinance is
required because these changes are part of the Zoning Code and
an amendment will be required; if it were only in the Tustin City
Code it would not necessarily come before the Planning
Commission.
Nielsen Suggested this seems a conflict of interest and might be better
handled at the City Council level.
Director Responded that this is a procedural issue required by law and must
come to the Planning Commission first.
Assistant Director Stated the former MCAS-Tustin was closed in 1999; because it was
a Navy disposal of property action and a community reuse planning
effort, the environmental document that was prepared included a
National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) and a California
Environment Quality Act (CEQA); that the EIS/EIR identified a
worst case scenario which included the potential that the hangars
could not be saved; there are two National Registered blimp
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hangars at the Base; the environmental documents considered the
possibility that those hangars could not be saved; the Navy was
obligated as part of that effort to identify potential mitigation for the
loss of those hangars; the Navy had to negotiate with the State
Historic Preservation Office (SHPO) and the Advisory Council on
Historic Preservation, which is the Federal equivalent to the SHPO;
negotiations also included the County of Orange because the
northerly hangar is promised to the County as part of an urban
regional park; the City of Tustin participated as the potential owner
of the southerly hangar; the outcome of those negotiations was an
agreement that laid out the strategy to market both hangars; the
County was to market the northerly hangar and the City the
southerly hangar.
. At the last City Council meeting, a staff report was brought to the
Council that reported the marketing effort for the southerly hangar.
Four expressions of interest were submitted to the City. Following
the guidelines that were included in the Navy's agreement with
SHPO and the Advisory Council, the marketing effort was intended
to identify whether or not the firms that submitted proposals had the
financial resources to rehabilitate the hangar and place a business
in the hangar that would be a viable reuse. The businesses had to
be able to pay for infrastructure, pay for seismic retrofitting, pay for
fire code upgrades, building code upgrades, etc. It has been
reported that the Navy's own analysis of the hangar required
improvements that ranged between $13 and $26 million just to
bring it up to code.
The conclusion reached in the City Council staff report found that
none of the four proposals was economically viable, and a
recommendation was brought to the City Council to reject all four;
the Council concurred with staffs recommendation; the Council
also authorized the City Manager to enter into an agreement with
the Tustin Legacy Partners to lease the hangar and also to begin
the effort needed to comply with the Memorandum of Agreement
concerning the mitigation that must accomplished.
Even though the Council rejected the four proposals, the Council
also indicated the desire that at least one of the hangars would be
preserved and every effort made to preserve one hangar if
possible; the County of Orange has moved forward with one of the
proposals that was made to the County for the northerly hangar and
is in negotiation on a potential economically viable reuse; nothing
will happen immediately to the southerly hangar; it is still
undergoing remediation by the Navy and still owned by the Navy;
the City is leasing the hangar from the Navy, and it will probably ,-
take five years of remediation before the property can be conveyed
by deed to the City and subsequently to the Tustin Legacy
Community Partners.
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Nielsen continued
Lee
Kozak
Puckett
Offered his prayers and condolences go to the Egan family and
suggested that the meeting be adjourned in Mr. Egan's memory.
Added his apologies for missing the last Planning Commission
meeting.
Stated that the rapid changes in technology and the ability to hide
cell towers in ways that make them almost impossible to notice
would suggest that making a suggestion to allow for revisions to the
Residential Design Guidelines to allow for new products and
innovative designs may be the wave of the future.
Expressed his condolences to the Egan family and agreed that the
meeting should be adjourned in Mr. Egan's memory.
Thanked staff for this evening's presentations.
Indicated his thanks and appreciation to Ms. Young for the work
she has done to maintain the historic structure, beautify the
property, and work to build the new structure in keeping with the
spirit and appearance of the Overlay District.
Thanked staff for working through the issue with the applicant and
the Commission.
Stated he looks forward to the proposed workshop regarding
possible revisions to the Design Guidelines.
Thanked staff for their reports on Council actions.
Noted that he, too, was happy to see Chipotle open, particularly
due to the improvement that has been brought to that corner.
Offered his sympathies to the Egan family for their terrible loss.
Noted that he is looking forward to moving the Planning
Commission meetings to Tuesday.
Indicated that he also attended the ribbon-cutting at Roderick's;
when he moved to Tustin in 1975, that was a Chuck's Steakhouse;
this is a very nice restaurant on Red Hill just south of the 1-5
freeway in the Stater Bros. shopping center; the executive chef is
from PJ's Abbey.
Stated that he was one of the founding members of the Tustin
Community Foundation in 1994 which floundered until an Executive
Director could be found; that Director left and things have not been
going as well; however, once a new Executive Director is found,
perhaps within the next month, things will be on track; there is
Board with about 15 new members and community leaders
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committed to getting the Foundation back to making a difference in
Tustin.
Asked if there would be any way to organize a tour of one of the
hangars.
Assistant Director
Answered that the chances are not good, but he could perhaps put
Commissioner Puckett in touch with the right people.
Puckett
Indicated he would like to go.
Assistant Director
Suggested that Commissioner Puckett give him a call.
Floyd
Reminded everyone that the Chipotle ribbon-cutting takes place
tomorrow at 5:00 p.m.
Agreed that, per Commissioner Lee's remarks, progress requires
change and the City needs to keep up.
Shared in the other Commissioners' condolences to the Egan
family; the Tustin Police Department is one of the finest in the
County but also in the State; as a police volunteer, he knew it would
be only a matter of time before the perpetrator would be caught; the
Tustin Police Department deserves our congratulations.
Asked for a motion to adjourn in Mr. Egan's memory.
7:47 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
In Memory of Tom Egan
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission will be held
Tuesday, March 13, 2007, at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council
Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
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