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MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
TUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 12, 2007
7:01 p.m. CALL TO ORDER
Given PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Floyd
Chair Pro Tem Nielsen
Commissioners Kozak, Murray, and Puckett
Staff present Elizabeth Binsack, Community Development Director
David Kendig, Deputy City Attorney
Dana Ogdon, Assistant Community Development Director
Terry Lutz, Principal Engineer
Scott Reekstin, Senior Planner
Justina Willkom, Senior Planner
Edmelynne Huffer, Assistant Planner
Eloise Harris, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC CONCERNS
Linda Jennings, Stated that the Tustin Preservation Conservancy has scheduled
350 South B Street the first round of trolley tours through Old Town on July 7 and 21
leaving at 10:00 a.m., 12:00 p.m., and 2:00 p.m. The trolley,
provided by AI Ricci, North Hills Realty, holds about 25 people,
and the cost per ticket is $2.00 per person.
Approved CONSENT CALENDAR
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES -MAY 22, 2007, PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING.
2. RECEIVE AND FILE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE
REPORT REGARDING OLD TOWN PROJECTS
APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DEPARTMENT FROM JANUARY 22, 2007, TO JUNE 5,
2007.
3. TUSTIN HISTORIC REGISTER NOMINATION - 515 WEST
THIRD STREET.
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RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission approve the nomination of
515 West Third Street to the Tustin Historic Register Plaque
Designation Program.
It was moved by Kozak, seconded by Nielsen, to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
Floyd Asked that Item #3 be pulled for discussion.
It was moved by Kozak, seconded by Nielsen, to reopen the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
Floyd Stated he drove by the nominated home; it is very nice and well-
maintained and is the former home of "Big John" Stanton, Tustin's
first Police Chief.
Nielsen Questioned whether the Commission would continue to hold this
responsibility or might the task be delegated to the Tustin
Preservation Conservancy or the Tustin Historical Society.
Director Clarified the difference between the plaque and commendation
programs; when a residence is nominated for commendation, the
City pays for the plaque; this particular nomination was already in
the process before the Planning Commission was appointed to take
over these nominations.
Nielsen Suggested this process should be agendized for a future meeting
as part of the historic work program.
Murray Asked if there is some means of looking at the numbers and the
value of such a plaque and possible diminution if there were an
over-saturation of plaques.
Floyd Stated that would be a good question to include in the discussion
when the item is agendized.
Nielsen Added his opinion that the property at 515 West Third Street is
beautifully maintained; and, asked if it was necessary to make a
new motion.
Kendig Answered in the affirmative.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Nielsen, to approve the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
Adopted Resolution 4. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 07-006 REQUESTING
No. 4061, as APPROVAL TO ESTABLISH A MASTER SIGN PROGRAM
amended TO PROVIDE DIRECTIONAL INFORMATION FOR NEW
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS AT VARIOUS
LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF TUSTIN. THIS IS A
CITY-WIDE PROJECT IN VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. 4061
approving Conditional Use Permit 07-006.
7:10 p.m. The Public Hearing opened.
Rutter Presented the staff report.
Floyd Asked for further clarification as to how this will reduce sign clutter.
Director Answered that Condition 2.1 requires 100 percent participation; no
other signs of any kind will be allowed in the right-of-way or other
off-site locations; staff believes these signs will provide a mutual
benefit.
Nielsen Asked if the lettering will be reflective and whether or not that would
be a question better put to the applicant.
Staff Suggested the applicant should respond.
Nielsen Stated that, since the applicant is responsible for sign maintenance,
it would be a good idea to consider graffiti prevention.
Bryan Starr, Indicated that the lettering can be reflective if that is the Planning
representing the Commission's desire; the maintenance and replacement of
Building Industry damaged or vandalized signs will include immediately taking care
Association (OC) of any graffiti.
Floyd Suggested that reflectivity could be an issue.
Director Stated that as long as there is not too much glare or reflectivity into
the right-of-way, the City engineers probably would accept such a
design; it will be necessary for the applicant to get an
encroachment permit prior to placing the signs in the right-of-way.
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Nielsen Noted it was not his desire to add conditions; he was asking a
general information question; and, asked whether or not this would
be precedent-setting, considering some of the in-fill projects taking
place in Tustin, such as condominium tear-downs and rebuilds.
Director Responded that setting a precedent should not be a concern since
this will be a master planned community similar to the Tustin Ranch
development; this is a discretionary action, and staff has provided
findings for the Commission's consideration.
Puckett Stated this looks like an excellent program; asked how many signs
will be in use after project build out; and, suggested the program
could be very beneficial to the City for directional purposes.
Director Answered that at this point all the signs are required to be removed;
it may be conceivable to keep track of which ones are more
beneficial, and the City may consider installing at some point as
with the Old Town commercial signs.
Floyd Indicated that the installation of the Old Town directional signs has
been one of the best projects he's seen in a city.
Kozak Echoed Commissioner Puckett's comments; the program's design
and colors are appealing and the consistency will be a welcome
change; his concern is that the signs will attract graffiti; removing
graffiti should be specifically referenced in the condition; there is no
reference to replacing damaged panels and/or avoid gaps in the
signs (as the developments are closed out); gaps would not be
aesthetically pleasing; replacing gaps with a blank panel would be
his suggestion.
Floyd Indicated his understanding that gaps would be replaced with a
directional sign to something else.
Nielsen Asked why the aluminum was changed to treated wood.
Mr. Starr Stated that the product, referred to as MDO, is a medium density
overlay, a treated wood that repels the outdoor elements, is quicker
to reproduce, and is consistent with the sign posts.
Kendig Stated that the applicant submitted an e-mail earlier today that
should be circulated to the Commissioners and included in the
permanent record.
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Kendig continued Provided the following language to replace Condition 2.8: "Sign
construction, maintenance, repairs, replacement, and graffiti
removal shall be the responsibility of the applicant at no cost to the
City."
Murray Asked if the logo design is firmly established.
Floyd Suggested that the City's website could perhaps be added below
the City's logo.
Mr. Starr Indicated two panels will be dedicated to the City and could be used
for that purpose.
Floyd Stated that decision could be left up to staff to decide.
Director Noted that Condition 2.7 indicates the City reserves the right to add
the City's logo, moniker, or other special font to the header panel of
all the signs and also the right to advertise certain issues.
Floyd Acknowledged, for the public record, receipt of the e-mail; and,
noted the applicant's name is misspelled "Stark" on the application.
Mr. Starr Thanked staff, especially Edmelynne Huffer and Justina Willkom,
for their excellent work working with the BIA; and, stated the
applicant accepts all the conditions of approval.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Murray, to adopt Resolution
No. 4061, as amended. Motion carried 5-0.
REGULAR BUSINESS
Received and 5. ZONING CODE UPDATE:
filed
THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER THE
ZONING CODE UPDATE SCHEDULE AND PROVIDE
GENERAL INPUT TO STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission receive and file this report.
Reekstin Presented the staff report.
Kozak Verified that the parking requirements included in the Zoning Code
would be related to land use not on-street parking.
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Reekstin Answered that the focus would be on private parking.
Nielsen Stated his hope that the Zoning Code designations will be user-
friendlyfor those who use it on a regular basis.
Director Noted that staff may modify the schedule and bring some of the
areas to the Planning Commission, perhaps in a workshop format,
in advance of the public hearing stage.
Floyd Asked how far the suggested time frame might be pushed.
Director Indicated it will be later than the November date shown on the staff
report, due to the RFP process through the Redevelopment Agency
for the ULI study; the intention is to mesh the two.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Kozak, to receive and file
the report. Motion carried 5-0.
Received and 6. PLANNING COMMISSION AREA TOURS:
filed
THE PURPOSE OF THE TOURS WILL BE TO PROVIDE
THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH AN OVERVIEW OF
VARIOUS AREAS OF THE CITY FROM A COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE. IT IS ANTICIPATED
THAT THE FIRST TOUR COULD BE SCHEDULED FOR
JUNE 26, 2007.
RECOMMENDATION:
That the Planning Commission receive and file this report.
Reekstin Presented the staff report.
After lengthy discussion, it was the consensus of staff and the
Commission that these tours will require more extensive
preparation and noticing; the tentative plan to tour Old Town
residential neighborhoods on June 26~' was postponed.
It was moved by Puckett, seconded by Kozak, to receive and file
the report. Motion carried 5-0.
STAFF CONCERNS
7. REPORT OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE JUNE 5, 2007,
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
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Director reported The City Council approved Development Agreement 06-002 with
the Tustin Legacy Community Partners.
The John Wayne Airport averages were down but there were three
complaints; staff will follow up and report back to the Planning
Commission as to what those complaints were.
COMMISSION CONCERNS
Floyd Congratulated Commissioner AI Murray who was recently
promoted to Lieutenant, City of Irvine Police Department.
Puckett Stated he attended the ribbon-cutting ceremonies at PetSmart and
Costco in The District; he also visited the old Costco in The Market
Place and can report the business at that location does not seem to
be affected.
Indicated the Chili Cook-off was a huge success, with an estimated
32,000 people attending.
Noted he completed the golf marathon and received pledges of
$5,550.
Offered congratulations to Patti Winter and Ken Henderson, Tustin
Woman and Man of the Year, respectively.
Murray Stated he found the Tustin Street Fair and Chili Cook-off very
enjoyable; the attendance was outstanding.
Noted he attended four ribbon-cuttings.
Indicated the State of the City luncheon was nicely done; the staff
presentation showcased the efforts for the City.
Added his congratulations to the Tustin Man and Woman of the
Year.
Thanked his fellow Commissioners for making him feel welcome.
Kozak Echoed the congratulations of his fellow Commissioners to the Man
and Woman of the Year.
Thanked staff for their work.
Congratulated AI Murray on his promotion.
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Kozak continued Thanked staff for the opportunity to attend the State of the City.
Noted .the Chili Cook-off was outstanding; the Tustin Brewery won
for the third straight year for best chili; hats off to everyone who
contributed to this best-ever event.
Reminded everyone that Concerts in the Park will begin June 20.
Suggested that the landscaping at Don Jose's at the corner of Holt
and Newport needs new sod and irrigation.
Nielsen Indicated it is always nice to see positive information regarding
Tustin, such as the well-attended Chili Cook-off, in the County
newspaper.
Congratulated Lieutenant Murray.
Congratulated the Tustin Man and Woman of the Year.
Noted he attended the Costco and PetSmart openings which were
both a lot of fun.
Stated he looks forward to the trolley tours in Old Town.
Thanked staff for their input and hard work.
Puckett Added that the Man and Woman of the Year banquet was very well
done; this event takes a great deal of planning, and Linda Jennings
should be commended for the job she did this year.
Noted that he attended the Eagle Court of Honor at the Tustin
Presbyterian Church, the finest Eagle Court of Honor he has ever
attended; and, congratulated Commissioner Nielsen on the job he
has done with that troop.
Floyd Thanked Commissioner Nielsen for the invitation to the Troop 243
ceremony, where Stephen Tjan was awarded his Eagle Scout
badge; only four percent of Boy Scouts become Eagle Scouts.
Puckett Pointed out that Commissioner Nielsen is himself an Eagle Scout.
Nielsen Noted that Commissioner Puckett is also an Eagle Scout.
Floyd Thanked staff for their presentations this evening.
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Floyd continued Stated that he is hearing compliments from his neighbors regarding
The District.
Indicated he plans to take one of the trolley tours.
Noted that he was out of town and missed the State of City
luncheon; and, requested a copy of the video presentation.
Kozak Thanked staff for providing the Commissioners with the map books
that were placed in their briefcases.
8:40 p.m. ADJOURNMENT
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission will be held
Tuesday, June 26, 2007, at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council
Chamber at 300 Centennial Way.
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From: Jim Palmer [mailto:jim.palmer@rescuemission.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:49 AM
To: Brett@oldamerica.net; retiredpucketts@aol.com; John.Nielsen@kodak.com
Cc: Binsack, Elizabeth
Subject: FW: Update.
Hello Commissioners,
I am passing along the email below that I received from Bryan Starr at the BIA. Please call me if
you have any questions about supporting this item that is coming before you tonight.
Thank you,
Jim Palmer
President
Orange County Rescue Mission
One Hope Drive
Tustin, CA 92782
(714)247-4301
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From: Starr, Bryan [mailto:bstarr@biaoc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:36 AM
To: )im Palmer
Subject: Update.
Hi Jim,
Just a quick update on our residential directional sign program for your city...
It has been a while since the City Council approved moving forward with this particular project,
but significant progress has been made. Your city Planning Staff has been great. We are
especially appreciative on the efforts of Justina Willkom. Our program submittal has been
deemed complete and we are going before the Planning Commission for consideration with a
positive staff recommendation.
We will be asking the Commission for one minor revision to the program application having to do
with sign panel materials. We want to keep all of the sign materials consistent, so we will be
asking for consideration to change some language in the staff report to allow us to utilize MDO
(weather treated wood) instead of aluminum panels. MDO is the same material that the sign
posts are made out of. The MDO will be easier for us to replace incase of damage or vandalism.
Staff is ok with the revision so we are hopeful that the Commissioners will concur. I will let you
know how it all turns out. Talk to you soon.
All the best,
Bryan M. Starr
Deputy Executive Officer /External Affairs
Building Industry Association, Orange County Chapter
17744 Sky Park Circle
Irvine, CA 92614
w:949-553-9500
m:949-554-8563
f:949-553-9507
bstarr a.biaoc.com
www. biaoc, com